Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-02 Thread Rob Beard
On 01/10/10 22:44, Josh Holland wrote:
 If you suspect it's overheating, you could install the computertemp
 package and add the CPU temperature applet to your panel. Otherwise, the
 only other thing I can think of worth checking is Palimpsest (aka Disk
 Utility from System -  Administration).

 There might be something in dmesg, but I'm inclined to agree that it's
 probably a cooling issue, in which case blowing dust out is the best
 plan.


Might also be worth checking the BIOS after the machine shuts down, that 
might give you some temperatures, and some BIOSes have warning alarms 
when a certain temperature is reached which might help?

I'd also suggest maybe running a memtest.  You can find memtest on the 
Ubuntu CD, boot from the CD and select the option Test memory (or 
something like that).  Of course this might not explain why it's 
suddenly turning off but you can diagnose if there are any memory errors 
(if it's dusty inside and overheating then long term it could cause 
components to fail).

If you clean the insides of your PC out I'd suggest getting a can of 
compressed air (and maybe take it outside to blow out), it could also be 
worth replacing the heatsink compound on the heatsink/CPU if you're 
confident enough taking your PC apart that much.  I find nail varnish 
remover works great for removing heatsink compound and maybe use a bit 
of Brasso to clean off the heatsink, or get some heatsink cleaning fluid 
(you should be able to get some online or from your local PC World).

Good luck.

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running From Pendrive with Persistence Allocated

2010-10-02 Thread Alan Pope
On 2 October 2010 13:53, Tony Doherty tony.dohe...@zen.co.uk wrote:
 I have been experimenting over the past few months with Ubuntu 9.10  10.4
 running entirely from a 4Gb USB memory stick and with 1Gb of persistence
 (Casper) allocated. I use the Pendrive Linux utility to prepare the memory
 stick.

 I tend to find that, after a few updates have been received, Ubuntu refuses
 to boot from the drive due to various errors. Selecting an older Generic
 Header can restore the boot therefore it appears to be corruption of the
 latest updated Header.


Surely it's just running out of space? The way I understand it you're
using the live image on a USB key, which cannot be changed, so any
new/updated packages and data are going to eat into the 1GB of
persistent storage?

If you do a 'proper' install to the USB key - that is, boot from a CD
or USB key and run Ubiquity (the installer) to install _onto_ another
USB key, then use that, you'll not see these issues.

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Join the celebration of Linux Magazine!

2010-10-02 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I shall enter the comp, please upload and send my winings to
cyberja...@gmail.com, :)

On 30 September 2010 14:57, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 See below. May be of interest to people in the UK LUG scene. :D


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] usb devices and ubuntu 10.04

2010-10-02 Thread Jacob Mansfield
sounds like a power problem to me, is it a powered usb hub (with a
plug/adapter/transformer)

On 29 September 2010 20:54, Glen Mehn glen.m...@oba.co.uk wrote:

  Hi Paul,

 I've had no problems with this from, broadly, 7.x to 10.04/10.10.

 /media should be dynamically creating folder names to mount things.

  From what I can tell, you have several problems of problems:

 1 - the Sansa MP3 player sometimes mounts and sometimes randomly unmounts
 2 - the USB hard drive mounts when plugged in directly, but not via the hub
 3 - you can only access one USB drive through the hub

 Is that correct?

 The behaviour you're describing sounds rather a lot like something I
 have experienced: a dodgy USB cable and/or connection-- you might check
 the cable, the socket on the hub, and the socket on the mp3 player.

 Once you've cleared cables, try this:

 What is the output of lsusb with:
 - evertything unplugged
 - the hub only plugged in (no devices attached to it)
 - the hub plugged in with 1, then 2 devices attached to it.

 That'll let you know waht the USB bus is seeing. You might also google
 the model number of your hub and linux or ubuntu to see if other
 folks are experiencing the same issue. I would suspect that the system
 isn't seeing the hub as a hub, so only able to attach one device on to it.

 Hope this helps.

 Glen

 On 29/09/10 20:05, Paul Sutton wrote:
  Hi
 
  using ubuntu 10,04 I am trying to copy data to a sansa clip usb mp3
 player
 
  if I plug it in as me, then it sometimes mounts and I can view the data
  on it, however it does not always mount properly or seems to randomly
  disconnect and the icon is removed from the desktop
 
  my user is a admin user on ubuntu,
 
  if i try and plug it in as a normal user nothing seems to happen at all
  with the music device, the external hard disk seems well behaved for the
  most part.
 
  i also have a usb hard disk which if plugged in to the desktop system,
  directly mounts,  if I try and plug this in to the usb external hub it
  won't mount,
 
  if I try and plug both devices in to the external hub i get either one
  or the other mounting,  but not both if they are both plugged in
 
  are there issues with dbus that can cause problems
 
  what has changed in terms of the content of /media it used to have
  folders which I now understand are dynamically created.
 
  before we had folders that acted as mount points,  something has changed
  between 10.04 and earlier versions in the way ubuntu handles things I am
  getting lots of messages referring to dbus,  so not sure if there are
  know bugs in that.
 
  I am really really struggling to explain exactly what the situation is
  as to me it seems random,  sometimes I can plug the music device in and
  it works. It just seems to randomly work, i am worried as to why
  something would just unmount for no aparent reason (or appear to)
 
  i did manage to get both working, and tried to copied 2 folders of music
  across  to the player only half way through the copy dialog seemed to be
  stalled,  so after a while i ended it,  and tried to unmount, i then got
  another dialog saying it was writing remaining data, which again didn't
  seem to be doing much, just displaying a status box with another bar
  moving back and forth quickly.
 
  has anyone else had any issues trying to plug in two usb storage devices.
 
 
  Paul
 
 

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[ubuntu-uk] unable to install 10.04.1

2010-10-02 Thread Norman Silverstone
I have just finished trying to install 10.04.1 onto an old desktop
computer belonging to a friend of mine and failed to do so. The
installation started OK and then the red and white dots froze and the
Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights on the keyboard kept flashing on and
off. I am confident that the CD is OK because it has worked on another
of my machines. Not wanting to let my friend go away Ubuntu less I
installed 9.10 with no problems.

I wonder why 10.04.1 would not install?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] unable to install 10.04.1

2010-10-02 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I had a similar problem, It turned out that my hard drive was dieing

On 2 October 2010 16:17, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote:

 I have just finished trying to install 10.04.1 onto an old desktop
 computer belonging to a friend of mine and failed to do so. The
 installation started OK and then the red and white dots froze and the
 Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights on the keyboard kept flashing on and
 off. I am confident that the CD is OK because it has worked on another
 of my machines. Not wanting to let my friend go away Ubuntu less I
 installed 9.10 with no problems.

 I wonder why 10.04.1 would not install?

 Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools

2010-10-02 Thread javadayaz
Ok so I'm experiencing something very strange...
When I insert a ubuntu disk in the pc and wait for it to load..well I get to
the menu but then I can't select anything..its like as if the keyboard isn't
working...I then boot into bios..and then keyboard works again...
I'm stumped
On 2 Oct 2010 09:19, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 On 01/10/10 22:44, Josh Holland wrote:
  If you suspect it's overheating, you could install the comp...
 Might also be worth checking the BIOS after the machine shuts down, that
 might give you some temperatures, and some BIOSes have warning alarms
 when a certain temperature is reached which might help?

 I'd also suggest maybe running a memtest.  You can find memtest on the
 Ubuntu CD, boot from the CD and select the option Test memory (or
 something like that).  Of course this might not explain why it's
 suddenly turning off but you can diagnose if there are any memory errors
 (if it's dusty inside and overheating then long term it could cause
 components to fail).

 If you clean the insides of your PC out I'd suggest getting a can of
 compressed air (and maybe take it outside to blow out), it could also be
 worth replacing the heatsink compound on the heatsink/CPU if you're
 confident enough taking your PC apart that much.  I find nail varnish
 remover works great for removing heatsink compound and maybe use a bit
 of Brasso to clean off the heatsink, or get some heatsink cleaning fluid
 (you should be able to get some online or from your local PC World).

 Good luck.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] unable to install 10.04.1

2010-10-02 Thread Barry Drake
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:17 +0100, Norman Silverstone wrote:
 I have just finished trying to install 10.04.1 onto an old desktop
 computer belonging to a friend of mine and failed to do so. The
 installation started OK and then the red and white dots froze and the
 Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights on the keyboard kept flashing on and
 off. 

I had the identical problem.  I remember setting the bios to the
defaults, I remember changing a bad memory stick, and I also remember a
bad hard drive: sorry, I can't remember which of these cured the
problem!

Regards,Barry Drake.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] unable to install 10.04.1

2010-10-02 Thread Barry Titterton
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:17 +0100, Norman Silverstone wrote:
 I have just finished trying to install 10.04.1 onto an old desktop
 computer belonging to a friend of mine and failed to do so. The
 installation started OK and then the red and white dots froze and the
 Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights on the keyboard kept flashing on and
 off. I am confident that the CD is OK because it has worked on another
 of my machines. Not wanting to let my friend go away Ubuntu less I
 installed 9.10 with no problems.
 
 I wonder why 10.04.1 would not install?
 
 Norman
 
 
10.04 does appear to have significant stability issues on some machines,
please see this (very long) thread on the forum:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478787page=110

The freezes can happen during installation or at any time during normal
operation. Some users have found turning off the ACPI power management
function, either in the BIOS or using boot options, helps, but this
action may give you other problems such as the shut down command not
working properly. The instability problems go away if you revert to an
earlier version of the kernel, i.e. pre 2.6.32, as you have already
found by using 9.10.

Barry


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