Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loosy splah screen after update to 10.10
I think the idea is that it is much faster, if less configurable. Like the new GDM since 10.04. Regards, Tyler On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 00:50 +, Craig Peden wrote: Everyone has it. It is the newer graphical boot/shutdown stuff that I think it generated by Plymouth as opposed to the xsplash you will have been used to. You could install xsplash. - Craig On 12 Nov 2010, at 22:36, Pallottini Aymeric paillom...@yahoo.com wrote: I have got an Acer Revo, that I have updated from ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10. After the update the splash screen is not the usual graphic one, it is a simple bit of text displaying ubuntu 10.10 and some dots, with even some of the events of the boot process being displayed. The same when shutting down the machine. Is somebody experiencing this also? Can I get back the nice splash screen? Thanks, Aymeric -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Scratch most feminists and underneath there is a woman who longs to be a sex object. The difference is that is not all she wants to be. -- Betty Rollin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Special bugs, and Live CDs. Help with this Bug please? (Appended Note)
On 11/11/10 15:51, alan c wrote: [snip] I got burned by a nasty bug in the live CD of 10.10 which has the effect of wiping your whole hard drive if you should be so unlucky to choose a particular install option relating to choosing a *partition* (not the whole drive!). [snip] Bug #659106 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/659106 I have drafted a note which I am handing out along with any Ubuntu 10.10 Desktop CDs. (I have a display event tomorrow) === Ubuntu 10.10 Installer Bug Warning Most functions in this installer work fine, and are ok. However: One particular option button in this installer will cause data damage, you are advised to avoid it if you have data anywhere on the hard drive! During the Install Ubuntu process, and from the first of three installer options: 'Install alongside other operating systems'. You are then offered a facility to re-size a partition to allocate drive space. The re-size facility itself has no problems, if you wish to use it please do. However, two more choices are also shown in this display in a pair of buttons: 'Use Entire Partition' and 'Use Entire Disk' Warning: Both of these buttons do the same thing - they use the entire disk, and any other partitions on the disk will be lost. (Reference:Bug #659106) === hth -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
Hi All A bit of advice please. I've installed Xubuntu 10.10 on my two laptops (Acer and Dell). Both display problems with programs crashing that I never encountered on 10.4, though they're not the same problems on each. I'm tempted to revert to 10.4 LTS. I got from 10.4 to 10.10 using the online version upgrade. Is there a way to go back or do I need to start from scratch with a clean install? Thanks. Regards Nige -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
Hi Nigel, Last time I checked, there is no supported way of downgrading between distributions. I would recommend a clean install of 10.10 first to see if you still get the issues, if you do, then reinstall the LTS. Your probably aware of this, but if you can set up a seperate partition for your /home, this saves an immense amount of backup time when reinstalling as you can choose (advanced mode) to only format the / and just mount the old /home Hope this helps, Bodsda Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:00:45 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
On 13 November 2010 16:00, Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote: I've installed Xubuntu 10.10 on my two laptops (Acer and Dell). Both display problems with programs crashing that I never encountered on 10.4, though they're not the same problems on each. I'm tempted to revert to 10.4 LTS. I got from 10.4 to 10.10 using the online version upgrade. Is there a way to go back or do I need to start from scratch with a clean install? No, you can't go back (easily). It can be done from some versions to some other versions but it takes orders of magnitude longer to manually do than a reinstall. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
On 13 November 2010 17:20, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Your probably aware of this, but if you can set up a seperate partition for your /home, this saves an immense amount of backup time when reinstalling as you can choose (advanced mode) to only format the / and just mount the old /home Not necessary. You can install over the top and retain the home directory without it being a separate partition. However I'm not sure I'd do that given you are going backwards. It's possible that configuration files in your home directory will have been 'upgraded' to support new releases of applications you use, and going backwards might not be possible for those applications. Perhaps you could figure out what's wrong with 10.10 and look for / file bugs. I'm sure the list would be happy to help you with that. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
Config files shouldn't be an issue. Any half-decent program will sanity check its config files and recreate them if the current ones are incompatible/corrupt. And even if they don't, deleting the newer config file will resolve any issues. Is the not formatting /home a new feature? If its not set up as a seperate partition, then it is just mounted under /which gets formatted on install Bodsda --Original Message-- From: Alan Pope To: bod...@googlemail.com To: Ubuntu-Uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading Sent: 13 Nov 2010 18:17 On 13 November 2010 17:20, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Your probably aware of this, but if you can set up a seperate partition for your /home, this saves an immense amount of backup time when reinstalling as you can choose (advanced mode) to only format the / and just mount the old /home Not necessary. You can install over the top and retain the home directory without it being a separate partition. However I'm not sure I'd do that given you are going backwards. It's possible that configuration files in your home directory will have been 'upgraded' to support new releases of applications you use, and going backwards might not be possible for those applications. Perhaps you could figure out what's wrong with 10.10 and look for / file bugs. I'm sure the list would be happy to help you with that. Al. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
On 13 November 2010 19:32, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Config files shouldn't be an issue. Any half-decent program will sanity check its config files and recreate them if the current ones are incompatible/corrupt. Define half-decent. On upgrading from one release to another many popular programs which we ship _by_ _default_ will irreversibly modify their config. Yes, deleting the config is one way out, but that's not ideal. Is the not formatting /home a new feature? If its not set up as a seperate partition, then it is just mounted under / which gets formatted on install No, it's been around for a good few releases now. I've been whittering on about this feature for ages, but people clearly still don't know about it. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
On 13/11/10 17:20, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Nigel, Last time I checked, there is no supported way of downgrading between distributions. I would recommend a clean install of 10.10 first to see if you still get the issues, if you do, then reinstall the LTS. Your probably aware of this, but if you can set up a seperate partition for your /home, this saves an immense amount of backup time when reinstalling as you can choose (advanced mode) to only format the / and just mount the old /home is there a way of doing this as a default option when installing, normally if you select use entire disk it does just that, perhaps there could be a modification to this that will allow for / /home and /awap just an idea for beginners, the rest of us who are not new users can do this using the advanced options for that part of the install Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
On 13 November 2010 19:32, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] Is the not formatting /home a new feature? If its not set up as a seperate partition, then it is just mounted under / which gets formatted on install If you specify _not_ to format / then home is left as is. I have just used this myself to install 10.10 over 10.04. Back up anything important anyway of course. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
I'm gonna have to run through the installer again then, because I don't remember seeing it automatically ask me about /home, and if you were doing it manually and didn't specify a mount point for /home and didn't format / then would anything actually happen? Bodsda --Original Message-- From: Colin Law To: bod...@googlemail.com To: Ubuntu-Uk ReplyTo: clan...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading Sent: 13 Nov 2010 21:09 On 13 November 2010 19:32, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: [...] Is the not formatting /home a new feature? If its not set up as a seperate partition, then it is just mounted under / which gets formatted on install If you specify_not_ to format / then home is left as is. I have just used this myself to install 10.10 over 10.04. Back up anything important anyway of course. Colin Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading
On 13 November 2010 22:42, bod...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm gonna have to run through the installer again then, because I don't remember seeing it automatically ask me about /home, It doesn't ask you about /home at all. It's a kinda hidden feature. and if you were doing it manually and didn't specify a mount point for /home and didn't format / then would anything actually happen? If you were doing manual partitioning over the top of an existing linux install (i.e. a filesystem exists which contains /bin /etc /var /usr /home and so on, and you choose not to format that filesystem, and you choose to install on it, then it will recursively delete all files in /bin /etc /var /usr and so on, but _not_ touch /home within that filesystem. I find myself explaining this to people about once a month. It's such a hidden gem of a feature so many people don't know about it, but it's the single most useful upgrade without upgrading feature. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
