Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadcom driver problem (sigh).....

2011-02-12 Thread Barry Drake
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 21:22 +, Barry Drake wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 21:01 +, alan c wrote:
  another possibility is a usb wifi dongle?
 Wonderful idea!  I'll get one.  

It's the ideal solution.  Thanks Alan.  Works straight out of the box
and proves to me that the Broadcom BCM4132 Wi-Fi chipset will not
connect to a Belkin F6D4230-4 v1 router (maybe others?).  Is there a
wiki somewhere for me to flag this up?  Obviously I've told Broadcom
(who said it's Dell's problem), I've told Dell, who said nothing, and
I've told Belkin who said it's not their problem (correctly, I guess).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadcom driver problem (sigh).....

2011-02-12 Thread alan c

On 12/02/11 08:28, Barry Drake wrote:

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 21:22 +, Barry Drake wrote:

 On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 21:01 +, alan c wrote:
   another possibility is a usb wifi dongle?
 Wonderful idea!  I'll get one.


It's the ideal solution.  Thanks Alan.  Works straight out of the box
and proves to me that the Broadcom BCM4132 Wi-Fi chipset will not
connect to a Belkin F6D4230-4 v1 router (maybe others?).  Is there a
wiki somewhere for me to flag this up?  Obviously I've told Broadcom
(who said it's Dell's problem), I've told Dell, who said nothing, and
I've told Belkin who said it's not their problem (correctly, I guess).


I would, as a rule, also post into the laptop compatibility/ 
incompatibility  thread in ubuntuforums

http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332

ISTR there is a yahoo group 'linux on dell' or similar
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadcom driver problem (sigh).....

2011-02-12 Thread Barry Drake
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 10:09 +, alan c wrote:
 I would, as a rule, also post into the laptop compatibility/ 
 incompatibility  thread in ubuntuforums
 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=332

Have done.  Thanks.  I've also posted on Dell's own forums under Laptop
and under Linux.

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[ubuntu-uk] Click ....

2011-02-12 Thread Barry Drake
Hi  any of you see 'Click' on BBC news this morning?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m9ry  It gives a brief but very
positive look at Linux.  It advises trying a live-cd and specifically
says that Linux is not just for geeks these days.  Great!  That and
PCPro in one week!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click ....

2011-02-12 Thread Sean Miller
On 12 February 2011 12:15, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:

 Hi  any of you see 'Click' on BBC news this morning?
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m9ry  It gives a brief but very
 positive look at Linux.  It advises trying a live-cd and specifically
 says that Linux is not just for geeks these days.  Great!  That and
 PCPro in one week!


I am not convinced by any of this... I don't think try a live CD is
necessarily a way forward, that is something that I'm sure numerous PC
magazines have tried and most have probably ended up in the skip.

The key is to get people to accept Linux as a legitimate mainstream
operating system, in the way they do with OS-X and Windows.  And, alas, the
only way to do that is to get it in the shops.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] shiny new website - yay \o/

2011-02-12 Thread Paul Tansom
** Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com [2011-02-11 12:56]:
 http://ubuntu-uk.org
 
 http://ubuntu-uk.org/2011/02/11/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org-website/
** end quote [Alan Bell]

On my system I only see Loco Dire on the top menu bar (part of the e is
obscured). I'm sure we are not a dire loco - or at least not all the time ;)

I'm running Firefox on a 1280x768 netbook screen, but there is plent of space
to the right for the rest of the word.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] shiny new website - yay \o/

2011-02-12 Thread Liam Gallear



On 12 Feb 2011, at 13:10, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote:

 ** Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com [2011-02-11 12:56]:
 http://ubuntu-uk.org
 
 http://ubuntu-uk.org/2011/02/11/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org-website/
 ** end quote [Alan Bell]
 
 On my system I only see Loco Dire on the top menu bar (part of the e is
 obscured). I'm sure we are not a dire loco - or at least not all the time ;)
 
 I'm running Firefox on a 1280x768 netbook screen, but there is plent of space
 to the right for the rest of the word.
 
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I noticed that yesterday when I looked on my work laptop (windows and IE8), 
thought it was just MS being crap.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] shiny new website - yay \o/

2011-02-12 Thread Colin Law
On 12 February 2011 13:10, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote:
 ** Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com [2011-02-11 12:56]:
 http://ubuntu-uk.org

 http://ubuntu-uk.org/2011/02/11/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org-website/
 ** end quote [Alan Bell]

 On my system I only see Loco Dire on the top menu bar (part of the e is
 obscured). I'm sure we are not a dire loco - or at least not all the time ;)

I don't know whether it is a factor (probably not) but the html is not
fully valid.  See
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu-uk.org%2Fcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0.
 One of the issues is that there appears to be no /head tag, though
as I said that is probably nothing to do with the truncated text.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] shiny new website - yay \o/

2011-02-12 Thread Colin Law
On 12 February 2011 13:49, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 12 February 2011 13:10, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote:
 ** Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com [2011-02-11 12:56]:
 http://ubuntu-uk.org

 http://ubuntu-uk.org/2011/02/11/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org-website/
 ** end quote [Alan Bell]

 On my system I only see Loco Dire on the top menu bar (part of the e is
 obscured). I'm sure we are not a dire loco - or at least not all the time ;)

 I don't know whether it is a factor (probably not) but the html is not
 fully valid.  See
 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu-uk.org%2Fcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0.
  One of the issues is that there appears to be no /head tag, though
 as I said that is probably nothing to do with the truncated text.

The css is a bit dodgy too, though again nothing obvious that would
cause the problem.
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu-uk.org%2Fprofile=css21usermedium=allwarning=1vextwarning=lang=en

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] shiny new website - yay \o/

2011-02-12 Thread Alan Bell
there was a /head tag in the code but some silly bunny had commented 
it out.
remaining errors are ul/ul for the secondary menu when it is empty 
and an invalid alt tag on something in the twitter feed, I am not too 
worried about either of these ones. I fixed some of the colour errors in 
the css file, but I think I will leave the shadow stuff because I have 
no idea what it does, it probably highly depends on browser quirks and 
probably the worst it can do is incorrectly render a shadow on something 
in some browser.


I am still no nearer figuring out the truncated heading text in some 
browsers (I can't reproduce) email is rubbish for sorting out these 
sorts of things, do hop on to IRC 
http://ubuntu-uk.org/join-the-conversation/ and lets continue there.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ANNOUNCE] shiny new website - yay \o/

2011-02-12 Thread Alan Bell

On 12/02/11 13:49, Colin Law wrote:


I don't know whether it is a factor (probably not) but the html is not
fully valid.  See
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntu-uk.org%2Fcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=Inlinegroup=0.
  One of the issues is that there appears to be no/head  tag, though
as I said that is probably nothing to do with the truncated text.

Colin


it now fully validates \o/
I ended up with a somewhat ugly hack to stop it complaining about an 
empty ul tag by inserting an invisble li tag to cover the instances 
where there are no items in the secondary menu (all the time at the 
moment). Fixing it neatly would have involved changing a core wordpress 
function that I didn't feel like changing.
I also fixed the truncated text which was due to a fixed width item 
around the top menu that I missed when converting the design from fixed 
width to fluid width and on some browsers the menu font pushed the width 
over the 650px allocated for that section. Now it can flow across as 
much screen as you have, as the web was meant to be, until broken by the 
960gs fad.


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[ubuntu-uk] local council

2011-02-12 Thread alan c

On 12/02/11 16:12, Alan Pope wrote:

On 12 February 2011 16:06,bod...@googlemail.com  wrote:

 Damn, if linux isn't for geeks, I'm gonna have to go Free-BSD


Some people think Linux is for geeks and it should stay that way. I
personally don't.


 At least the bbc are talking about it. I work for local government IT, but my 
bosses won't give FOSS the time of day



Where I work at the moment (an ~$18Bn company) they use Linux
underneath the entire software stack which powers the business.
Thousands of users around the world use (admittedly proprietary
solutions) sat on top of Linux. I would not be surprised that local
government IT projects trail behind this! Sad though it might be.


I contacted my local Councillors, about using FOSS, fo rgood financial 
reasons... and my heart sank when (she) innmmediately referred me 
to th eIT manager, her non elected subordinate on grounfds od 
ignorance. However, I was happily amazed to be invited  to a tour of 
the IT department and found that Bracknell use an overwhelming amount 
 of Suse Enterprise server, and are carefully aware of the non linux 
apps they still depend upon, and plan for a future with thin clients. 
I think they have been noted in the press as  doing well etc 
generally, but it does not hit local news, nor, apparently, the 
Councillors awareness.


Armed with my new knowledge I am recently in touch with my Councillor 
to help make them aware that there is no real reason why they need to 
stay with a paid-for OS on their corporate laptop. It may take a bit 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] local council

2011-02-12 Thread Rob Beard

On 12/02/11 19:46, alan c wrote:


I contacted my local Councillors, about using FOSS, fo rgood financial
reasons... and my heart sank when (she) innmmediately referred me to
th eIT manager, her non elected subordinate on grounfds od ignorance.
However, I was happily amazed to be invited to a tour of the IT
department and found that Bracknell use an overwhelming amount of Suse
Enterprise server, and are carefully aware of the non linux apps they
still depend upon, and plan for a future with thin clients. I think they
have been noted in the press as doing well etc generally, but it does
not hit local news, nor, apparently, the Councillors awareness.

Armed with my new knowledge I am recently in touch with my Councillor to
help make them aware that there is no real reason why they need to stay
with a paid-for OS on their corporate laptop. It may take a bit more
time of course.


That's interesting to hear, it's a shame the same can't be said for 
Devon County Council who are pretty much a Windows only shop.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click ....

2011-02-12 Thread Barry Drake
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 19:36 +, alan c wrote:
  On 12 February 2011 12:15, Barry Drakebdr...@crosswire.org  wrote:
 
   Hi  any of you see 'Click' on BBC news this morning?

It's back on now at : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m9ry
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] local council

2011-02-12 Thread Jacob Mansfield
well I've got a meeting with herts council on the 1st, wish me lick
and I'll tell you how it goes
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On 12 February 2011 20:06, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:
 On 12/02/11 19:46, alan c wrote:

 I contacted my local Councillors, about using FOSS, fo rgood financial
 reasons... and my heart sank when (she) innmmediately referred me to
 th eIT manager, her non elected subordinate on grounfds od ignorance.
 However, I was happily amazed to be invited to a tour of the IT
 department and found that Bracknell use an overwhelming amount of Suse
 Enterprise server, and are carefully aware of the non linux apps they
 still depend upon, and plan for a future with thin clients. I think they
 have been noted in the press as doing well etc generally, but it does
 not hit local news, nor, apparently, the Councillors awareness.

 Armed with my new knowledge I am recently in touch with my Councillor to
 help make them aware that there is no real reason why they need to stay
 with a paid-for OS on their corporate laptop. It may take a bit more
 time of course.

 That's interesting to hear, it's a shame the same can't be said for Devon
 County Council who are pretty much a Windows only shop.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] local council

2011-02-12 Thread Colin Law
On 12 February 2011 22:04, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
 well I've got a meeting with herts council on the 1st, wish me lick

I hope you don't need to go quite *that* far to convince them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] local council

2011-02-12 Thread Jacob Mansfield
should be luck, damn you non-context-checking-spellcheck
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On 12 February 2011 22:09, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 12 February 2011 22:04, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote:
 well I've got a meeting with herts council on the 1st, wish me lick

 I hope you don't need to go quite *that* far to convince them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click ....

2011-02-12 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 12:15 +, Barry Drake wrote:
 Hi  any of you see 'Click' on BBC news this morning?
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m9ry  It gives a brief but very
 positive look at Linux.  It advises trying a live-cd and specifically
 says that Linux is not just for geeks these days.  Great!  That and
 PCPro in one week!

I just had a look at the program and it's nice to see them mention Linux
but the way they present it, it sounds like Linux = PCLinuxOS. So still
some work to do in order to make it more mainstream.

Cheers,

Bruno



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