[ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Sutton

Hi

this is slightly off topic but the answer could be useful to others.

Looking at the amazon kindle it looks as if i can use it to open / read 
normal pdf files such as the one for the ubuntu manual,  if this is the 
case it would be useful.


On another note, part of my Open uni studies requires me to read and 
highlight text in book, if i could get hold of electronic versions can i 
do this with kindle or other book readersl as in highlight text adnthen 
some how save the file with the highlights so i can use it to take 
notes, or perhaps there is other ways to attach notes to text.


i amk looking at several books on LInux atm,  have very little shelf 
space left and don't want to be a tree killer by printing out documentation,


i can also buy electronic books cheaper than paper, copies

any suggestions or ideas


paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread Alan Pope
On 22 March 2011 10:41, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
 Looking at the amazon kindle it looks as if i can use it to open / read
 normal pdf files such as the one for the ubuntu manual,  if this is the case
 it would be useful.


You can, but PDF rendering is less than ideal. You're better off using
more 'native' formats on the Kindle than PDF.

 i can also buy electronic books cheaper than paper, copies


That's not always the case. Often the electronic book costs exactly
the same as the dead-tree one.

Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread J Fernyhough
On 22 March 2011 10:41, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:

 any suggestions or ideas



I love my Kindle 3G. However, I'm already running into the limitations
of the 6 screen with PDFs. Depending on the number of books you need,
buying the tree copy or just reading on a netbook may work out better
than shelling out another £100+ for a gadget to do the same thing.

Try and find someone who has one so you can see it in the flesh,
sorry, plastic. It won't be difficult. :) Then you can decide if it
will work well enough for your needs.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread Dave Morley
On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 10:48 +, J Fernyhough wrote:
 On 22 March 2011 10:41, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
 
  any suggestions or ideas
 
 
 
 I love my Kindle 3G. However, I'm already running into the limitations
 of the 6 screen with PDFs. Depending on the number of books you need,
 buying the tree copy or just reading on a netbook may work out better
 than shelling out another £100+ for a gadget to do the same thing.
 
 Try and find someone who has one so you can see it in the flesh,
 sorry, plastic. It won't be difficult. :) Then you can decide if it
 will work well enough for your needs.
 
 Jonathon
 
My Mrs loves hers over the normal books.

Infact when we moved she gave all but her favourite books away and is
now buying them all on kindle.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread Liam Gallear


On 22 Mar 2011, at 11:10, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk wrote:

 On Tue, 2011-03-22 at 10:48 +, J Fernyhough wrote:
 On 22 March 2011 10:41, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
 
 any suggestions or ideas
 
 
 
 I love my Kindle 3G. However, I'm already running into the limitations
 of the 6 screen with PDFs. Depending on the number of books you need,
 buying the tree copy or just reading on a netbook may work out better
 than shelling out another £100+ for a gadget to do the same thing.
 
 Try and find someone who has one so you can see it in the flesh,
 sorry, plastic. It won't be difficult. :) Then you can decide if it
 will work well enough for your needs.
 
 Jonathon
 
 My Mrs loves hers over the normal books.
 
 Infact when we moved she gave all but her favourite books away and is
 now buying them all on kindle.
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Likewise, I'm loving mine too. Although I can't say that I've tried to view 
PDFs on there. But I do prefer carrying that around than a few hefty books.


Thanks and Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread steve

On 22/03/11 10:41, Paul Sutton wrote:

Hi

this is slightly off topic but the answer could be useful to others.

Looking at the amazon kindle it looks as if i can use it to open / 
read normal pdf files such as the one for the ubuntu manual,  if this 
is the case it would be useful.


On another note, part of my Open uni studies requires me to read and 
highlight text in book, if i could get hold of electronic versions can 
i do this with kindle or other book readersl as in highlight text 
adnthen some how save the file with the highlights so i can use it to 
take notes, or perhaps there is other ways to attach notes to text.


i amk looking at several books on LInux atm,  have very little shelf 
space left and don't want to be a tree killer by printing out 
documentation,


i can also buy electronic books cheaper than paper, copies

any suggestions or ideas


paul

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Do you have a Staples locally? Here in Plymouth they are selling both 
versions of the Kindle and they have a demo/display booth where you can 
try them out.


regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread Simon Redmond
I used calibre to convert a series of pdf's (funnily enough for an ou course) 
into the more native format for my kindle as I found reading the pdf to much of 
a strain on the eyes. It seems to work well, however its not a perfect 
conversion formatting can sometimes go a bit funny and images don't seem to 
come though, but works for my purposes.

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Hi

this is slightly off topic but the answer could be useful to others.

Looking at the amazon kindle it looks as if i can use it to open / read normal 
pdf files such as the one for the ubuntu manual,  if this is the case it would 
be useful.

On another note, part of my Open uni studies requires me to read and highlight 
text in book, if i could get hold of electronic versions can i do this with 
kindle or other book readersl as in highlight text adnthen some how save the 
file with the highlights so i can use it to take notes, or perhaps there is 
other ways to attach notes to text.

i amk looking at several books on LInux atm,  have very little shelf space left 
and don't want to be a tree killer by printing out documentation,

i can also buy electronic books cheaper than paper, copies

any suggestions or ideas


paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread J Fernyhough
On 22 March 2011 11:24, Simon Redmond si...@sibass.co.uk wrote:
 I used calibre to convert a series of pdf's (funnily enough for an ou
 course) into the more native format for my kindle as I found reading the pdf
 to much of a strain on the eyes. It seems to work well, however its not a
 perfect conversion formatting can sometimes go a bit funny and images don't
 seem to come though, but works for my purposes.

I've found Amazon's free conversion process gives a better result,
keeping more formatting and fonts; email the pdf with the subject
convert to yourusern...@free.kindle.com (no body text needed). It's
even delivered to your device via WiFi. For native PDFs Briss
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/briss/) works well to crop margins so
it's a better fit.

As an aside, if you're into comics or manga the Kindle will read
images straight from a zip (.zip, .cbz) and keep track of the last
page viewed. I've found that processing the images using Mangle before
zipping gives a good quality output on the Kindle.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread Paul Sutton

On 22/03/11 10:45, Alan Pope wrote:

On 22 March 2011 10:41, Paul Suttonzl...@zleap.net  wrote:

Looking at the amazon kindle it looks as if i can use it to open / read
normal pdf files such as the one for the ubuntu manual,  if this is the case
it would be useful.


You can, but PDF rendering is less than ideal. You're better off using
more 'native' formats on the Kindle than PDF.

thats ok i would probaby buy books in the kindle format from amazon,  i 
see the point about cost, but i can either buy a 100 quid book case or a 
kindle, the latter is more portable and perhaps the better option.  :)


its more for practicality i will howevler investigate before hand,may 
sugget to the ou they look in to kindle versions of books esp as 
according to amazon i can highlight and take notes,   they do allow 
download of course books which is handy,  for on screen reading,  
clearly a native version and pdf would be useful.


i could also look and see if it will be possible to save LaTeX documents 
in a format forkindle it does do some ebook stuff not really looked in to it


will need to do some research :)

thanks to everyone for your help / comments.

Paul



i can also buy electronic books cheaper than paper, copies


That's not always the case. Often the electronic book costs exactly
the same as the dead-tree one.

Al.




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[ubuntu-uk] Edubuntu thin client subnet and Windows Domain

2011-03-22 Thread Nathan Arkless
Hi All

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 new to the group and would like to ask your help.

I'm an IT tech at a school and I want to demo Edubuntu with thin clients to the 
senior management and help them see the light.

I have an Edubuntu server with two nics joined to the primary windows domain 
and I can log on with domain credentials and everything is AOK. I used 
LikewiseOpen 6 to join the server to the primary domain.

So, on my Edubuntu server eth1 is connected to the primary domain and has a 
static IP. eth2 also has a static IP and is the DHCP for the thin client 
subnet, connected to a switch. IP forwarding is enabled.

DOMAIN eth1   Edubuntu Server eth2 (SUBNET) 
switch  clients

So far, so good: I can log on the thin clients with one of the local accounts 
specified on the Edubuntu server and with that account I can surf the net and, 
if I supply domain credentials, browse the primary domain.

Problem I have is:

I can't work out how to log on to the primary domain with a Active Directory 
account directly from a thin client. If I try DOMAIN\user to log on, after 
giving the password, the password screen refreshes and 'domainuser@11.*.21.*'s 
password' appears under the blank password box. The IP in that message is the 
IP for the subnet and not the primary domain.

I feel like I'm miss-understanding some basic simple step but I just can't 
figure it out.

Here's some of the config files:

etc/network/interfaces

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth1
iface eth0 inet static
address 10.73.16.29
netmask 255.255.252.0
gateway 10.73.16.1
broadcast 10.73.19.255

auto eth2
iface eth2 inet static
address 11.69.21.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
up iptables-restore  /etc/ltsp/nat


DHCP.conf

#
# Default LTSP dhcpd.conf config file.
#

authoritative;

subnet 11.69.21.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 11.69.21.20 11.69.21.250;
option domain-name Edubuntu;
option domain-name-servers 10.73.16.7;
# option domain-name-servers 11.69.21.1;
option broadcast-address 11.69.21.255;
option routers 11.69.21.1;
# next-server 11.69.21.2;
# get-lease-hostnames true;
option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
option root-path /opt/ltsp/i386;
if substring( option vendor-class-identifier, 0, 9 ) = PXEClient {
filename /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0;
} else {
filename /ltsp/i386/nbi.img;
}
}


resolv.conf

Generated by NetworkManager
search gtravesend gravesend.local
nameserver 10.73.16.7
nameserver 10.73.16.12

IP ROUTE
root@edubuntu-server:~# ip route
11.69.21.0/24 dev eth2 proto kernel scope link src 11.69.21.1
10.73.16.0/22 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 10.73.16.29 metric 1
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth2 scope link metric 1000
default via 10.73.16.1 dev eth1 proto static

/etc/hosts

10.73.16.29 edubuntu-server.gravesend.local edubuntu-server # Added by NetworkM$
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
::1 edubuntu-server.gravesend.local edubuntu-server localhost6
# ::1 edubuntu-server localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6
127.0.1.1 edubuntu-server.gravesend.local edubuntu-server
# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts


Thanks

Nathan
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT Kindle

2011-03-22 Thread TT Mooney
On 22 March 2011 10:41, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
 Looking at the amazon kindle it looks as if i can use it to open / read
 normal pdf files such as the one for the ubuntu manual,  if this is the
 case it would be useful.

I have a Kindle 3G (the new one with both GSM and WiFi) and it is great
for reading ebooks. PDF rendering depends on the source materials, and is
not as good as it could be.

I just came back from the US with a Barnes and Noble Nook Color. It is a
full-colour 7 1024x600 Android tablet that ties in with their in-store/NA
based ebook business (which of course only works with a US credit card and
perhaps a US IP -- I'm not using it anyway). It is much better for reading
full-colour PDFs, magazines, etc. It is easy to root, and that opens up
the full Android Marketplace. At $250, it's not expensive.

There is also the iPad, of course, but I am a former employee of the
Mothership, and not much of a fan these days. It seems way too expensive
to me.

Anyway, I like both the Kindle and the Nook for different things and still
have a massive pile of paper books as well.

The Kindle is a great ebook reader in daylight, and has an amazing battery
life (weeks) with wireless off. I am not sure that I would spend the extra
on 3G again, as the service isn't rock-solid, and the browser is a little
crappy. It works, but claims of service coverage (Nigeria, UAE, China,
etc) is pretty optimistic.

The Nook is full colour, so technical diagrams are better. Battery life is
worse (one full day). You have the full Android App Store. You do have the
Kindle app, as well, if you want to access your Amazon books. I am not
sure how hard the Nook is to get outside of North America. Most other
cheaper Android tablets (Archos, etc) have lower resolution screens, so I
steered away from them in the past.

 On another note, part of my Open uni studies requires me to read and
 highlight text in book, if i could get hold of electronic versions can i
 do this with kindle or other book readersl as in highlight text adnthen
 some how save the file with the highlights so i can use it to take
 notes, or perhaps there is other ways to attach notes to text.

This is easy on the Kindle with native formats (or on Android/iOS with the
Kindle app -- same thing). With PDF, I am not so sure, but I would not
expect the Kindle to do it -- at least not well.

 i can also buy electronic books cheaper than paper, copies

I don't think eBooks offer value for money, with the exception of Public
Domain works. I have a lot of classics on my Kindle (and Nook) but nothing
that I had to pay for. I also find a paper copy to be easier to leaf
casually through (and yes, I do leaf through at least one Linux book
casually: Unix and Linux System Administration Handbook, Nemeth, et al).
Of course electronic is easier to search.

 any suggestions or ideas

It depends how you read, but if most of your source material is PDF, I
would go with the Nook Color (if you can get it). If you opt for the
Kindle, make sure that you can get the books in a native format (by
converting or otherwise -- most stolen copies will be scans and therefore
not convertible). I would skip the Kindle 3G and just stick to Wifi --
there's not a huge difference in price, but I also think there's not much
difference in usability.

And, just to tie this closer to the list topic, on the Ubuntu side,
Calibre is your ebook management application. It is very good.

Kind regards,

travis


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