Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Tue, 3 May 2011 23:15:00 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's a pain on a mobile. pci wireless devices 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem: Askey Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136] (rev 02) snip Yes the device shows up, but I mean I don't know how to make it turn on... in those notes, you see there are no attached wireless interfaces. When I do ifconfig -a there is no wlan entry. Hopefully this is an easy solution to someone, but I am not sure what I am looking for. All I know is it was working before. Anyway, I am going to reformat the whole netbook. Its still got a restore partition that came with it which is wasting 10Gb or so... Going to do a fresh Ubuntu 11,04 part. + /home part. + XP part. See how it works out of the box. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking if a System restart is required
On 4 May 2011 03:10, Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote: As I've mentioned before on the ayatana list I think this would do more harm than good. As others have already said, just about everything bar Mozilla stuff will continue to work fine if it's left running, and warning people that a particular upgrade will require a reboot is likely to put some of them off, leaving security holes open for longer. Not arguing one way or the other but I suspect that if an upgrade that requires a reboot is performed, but the reboot is delayed, that the security hole may well likely not be plugged till the reboot is performed. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:53:35 +0100
Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2011 23:15:00 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:
Sorry about the double post but I'm going to quote the section. It's
a pain on a mobile.
pci wireless devices
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8192] (rev 01) Subsystem:
Askey
Computer Corp. Device [144f:7160] Kernel modules: r8192e_pci 03:00.0
Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller [10ec:8136]
(rev 02)
snip
Yes the device shows up, but I mean I don't know how to make it turn
on... in those notes, you see there are no attached wireless interfaces.
When I do ifconfig -a there is no wlan entry.
Hopefully this is an easy solution to someone, but I am not sure what I
am looking for. All I know is it was working before.
Anyway, I am going to reformat the whole netbook. Its still got a
restore partition that came with it which is wasting 10Gb or so...
Going to do a fresh Ubuntu 11,04 part. + /home part. + XP part.
See how it works out of the box.
On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi. I've
found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi, but doesn't
with a clean install.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:38:29 +0100, Yorvyk wrote: On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi. I've found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi, but doesn't with a clean install. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net There is a Fn + option for toggling wifi on/off (which never seems to work anyway) but the wifi light is on, as it always has been, but whether that means anything... I don't know. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking if a System restart is required
Colin Law wrote: Not arguing one way or the other but I suspect that if an upgrade that requires a reboot is performed, but the reboot is delayed, that the security hole may well likely not be plugged till the reboot is performed. Well, the holes in the kernel wont be plugged until the next reboot, no. But most world-at-large facing bits and pieces will be, and they're normally the soft-spot. Also, in the situation where someone has delayed the install for fear of an automatic reboot, it's entirely likely that they've postponed it beyond the next reboot (the updater is notoriously rubbish at guessing how long it's going to take). In that instance, having them install and not reboot until they next reboot leads to them booting into the patched kernel quicker. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On 4 May 2011 09:54, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2011 09:38:29 +0100, Yorvyk wrote: On some notebooks/laptops there is a function key that enables WiFi. I've found with upgrades that this sets it's self to disable the WiFi, but doesn't with a clean install. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net There is a Fn + option for toggling wifi on/off (which never seems to work anyway) but the wifi light is on, as it always has been, but whether that means anything... I don't know. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com The wifi light often doubles as a bluetooth light on laptops / netbooks. Have you checked that the WiFi is enabled in the bios of the machine, perhaps disabling bluetooth as well to see if the light still comes on. Thank you -- John Stevenson http://uk.linkedin.com/in/johnstevenson247 | @JR0ckethttp://http//twitter.com/#%21/JR0cket | JR0cket.co.uk http://jr0cket.co.uk/ | JR0cket.com http://jr0cket.com/ | LeanAgileMachine.com http://leanagilemachine.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:30:46 +0100, John Stevenson wrote: The wifi light often doubles as a bluetooth light on laptops / netbooks. Have you checked that the WiFi is enabled in the bios of the machine, perhaps disabling bluetooth as well to see if the light still comes on. Thank you -- John Stevenson Would an upgrade turn WiFi off in the bios?? If not then it shouldn't be off, as I have been using this netbook for a few years now with wifi with Ubuntu and XP. BTW WiFi is still working when I boot into XP. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
OK, here are some links that I found useful! The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was to update the kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and the install the samsung-wireless package from here: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers: sudo gedit */etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf *and add the following lines: * blacklist r8192e_pci* *blacklist r8192se_pci* Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa. You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty 2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky so your system may not survive !!! ;) There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;) here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order: http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-Land-Ubuntu-on-the-N210 http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html Hope that helps a little, cheers On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Les Pounder lespoun...@gmail.com wrote: I have an N130, I ran 11.04 (fresh install) for about a day, WIFI was really patchy out of the box, so I installed the voria ppa.n Unfortunately still really patchy WIFI. I've reverted back to 10.04, using the Voria PPA and everything is back to normal. Les On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Dave Rice d...@ricey.co.uk wrote: Trouble is, I tried that on a fresh install on a n210 and it didn't work! I'll write down the steps I did in a minute and post it here once I’ve found all the links cheers On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 4 May 2011 11:52, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:44:02 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10487458postcount=34 Looks like that solves it. Al. Hmm, I have already tried that procedure. This is what worries me, I have tried multiple solutions and wonder if they are all now conflicting with each other. I think a fresh install, then that ^ solution is best route to try... Sounds like a plan. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wed, 4 May 2011 14:51:49 +0300, Dave Rice wrote: OK, here are some links that I found useful! The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was to update the kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [14] and the install the samsung-wireless package from here: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [15] once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the following lines: blacklist r8192e_pci _blacklist r8192se_pci_ Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa. You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty 2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky so your system may not survive !!! ;) There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;) here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order: http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-Land-Ubuntu-on-the-N210 [16] http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 [17] http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html [18] Hope that helps a little, cheers Thanks for all the ideas and help! When I re-format the netbook, I actually think I will stick with 10,04 or 10,10 as they worked... think I will leave 11,04 mature a bit more. shame, but there we are. Cheers again. -- Jon Reynolds (j0nr) http://www.jcrdevelopments.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11,04 Broke My Wireless (surprised?)
On Wednesday 04 May 2011 13:08:35 Jon Reynolds wrote: On Wed, 4 May 2011 14:51:49 +0300, Dave Rice wrote: OK, here are some links that I found useful! The method I used, admittedly it was on a Maverick based distro, was to update the kernel from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ [14] and the install the samsung-wireless package from here: https://launchpad.net/~voria/+archive/ppa [15] once updated you may have to blacklist the built it drivers: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the following lines: blacklist r8192e_pci _blacklist r8192se_pci_ Not tried it with natty yet, you may just have to use the voria ppa. You may want to try updating the kernel to the oneiric or the Natty 2.6.39-rc4 (current) and add the voria ppa too. - this is a bit risky so your system may not survive !!! ;) There is a surprising amount of info out there as the samsung netbook is a popular one, it's a good little machine ;) here are some links with useful info on, in no particular order: http://www.sammynetbook.com/forum/threads/14952-My-adventures-in-Linux-La nd-Ubuntu-on-the-N210 [16] http://www.stewartpratt.com/?p=443 [17] http://seaborne.blogspot.com/2010/07/ubuntu-on-samsung-n210.html [18] Hope that helps a little, cheers Thanks for all the ideas and help! When I re-format the netbook, I actually think I will stick with 10,04 or 10,10 as they worked... think I will leave 11,04 mature a bit more. shame, but there we are. Cheers again. I know what you mean, I've upgraded to Kubuntu 11.04 on 2 laptops and both have different bugs in them. Wireless works fine with one of them, but not the other, display problems etc. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ask Mark session
Hi, in ~20 mins there's an 'Ask Mark Shuttleworth' session in Ubuntu Open Week. Jump on IRC and pose your questions to Mark in #ubuntu-classroom-chat and watch the answers in #ubuntu-classroom on freenode irc. All the details at the below links. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/JoiningIn Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ask Mark session
On 04/05/11 14:40, Alan Pope wrote: Hi, in ~20 mins there's an 'Ask Mark Shuttleworth' session in Ubuntu Open Week. Jump on IRC and pose your questions to Mark in #ubuntu-classroom-chat and watch the answers in #ubuntu-classroom on freenode irc. All the details at the below links. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/JoiningIn Cheers, Al. Unfortunately I had a medical appointment, so I could not join in. I notice there is no log, never mind. I trust it went well? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ask Mark session
On 4 May 2011 18:29, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Unfortunately I had a medical appointment, so I could not join in. I notice there is no log, never mind. I trust it went well? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/04/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:02 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ask Mark session
On 04/05/11 18:32, Terence Simpson wrote: On 4 May 2011 18:29, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Unfortunately I had a medical appointment, so I could not join in. I notice there is no log, never mind. I trust it went well? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/04/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t15:02 Thanks! -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Users needed for masters project
Hey all, I've just started the project for my MSc course in Applied Computing and am in need of some guinea pigs to help design and test it. I'm going to be working on it between now and Monday 12th September, when my thesis is to be submitted, and I'm going to be using the user-centred design [1] methodology and will be looking for people to provide feedback regularly between now and the submission deadline. The project will be to implement a 'Continuous Client', where the move from one computing device to another is streamlined by saving your session on one computer, syncing it to a location in the cloud, and restoring it on another. Reader of Engadget will probably be familiar with this concept [2]. I'm planning on building an open source version of this that will allow the user to use Ubuntu One sync their session from one Ubuntu computer to another, with Windows machines eventually being added to the mix. It's not going to cover every single application in the Software Centre, but it will support a few of the default apps shipped with Ubuntu. In the beginning, this will include LibreOffice writer, Firefox and Empathy, with the option to expand to other LibreOffice apps if time permits. I would really appreciate people's participation in this project, and anyone that wants to get involved can visit the project page [3] and read the FAQ for testers [4], as well as the project [5] and team [6] pages on Launchpad. The mailing list on the team page will be the primary communication channel for the project so participants should sign up to that. If anyone has any questions regarding this, I'll be happy to field them. Chris [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User-centered_design [2] http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/26/a-modest-proposal-the-continuous-client/ [3] http://continuousclientproject.org/ [4] http://continuousclientproject.org/testers [5] https://launchpad.net/continuousclientproject [6] https://launchpad.net/~cctesters -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please help with research ...
On Mon, 2011-04-11 at 15:47 +0100, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there ... At last night's ubuntu-adverts meeting, I arranged an experimental survey for research. I hope some of you can consider helping with it. First, find one or more willing volunteers from among friends. Volunteers need to be 'Ubuntu Virgins'. They are computer literate, but have no experience at all of any flavour of Linux. Give them a Maverick 10.10 LiveCD and ask them to run it and familiarise themselves with Ubuntu. After a week to ten days, arrange to interview them and make out a report. There are no specific questions; just ask them how things went, and report back on their findings, what problems they found, and what they would have liked to do but were unable to find a way of doing it. Note their overall impression and whether they would consider moving to Ubuntu. Please give reasons for or against. The interview needs to be conducted with great sensitivity and a good listening ear. If all goes well, you should hardly need to say anything; just listen! I have placed an etherpad at: http://openetherpad.org/cZDc393hcW for feedback and comments. Please consider helping with this. If you are in contact with other locos/groups, you might care to forward this to them. Kind regards, Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ Just done a talk for a local computer club. Five of the members took discs to try so I will report back if and when I have any feedback. Barry T -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
