Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 25/06/11 20:05, alan c wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) PRE Installed Ubuntu 10.10 netbook and desktop sessions £225 :-) http://amzn.to/l8WX51 My summary of Ubuntu related things: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10980805#post10980805 Comment: I love it being pre installed! The battery is on the small side for serious walkabout. USB x2 only, has bluetooth Slimline Thanks go to OMG Ubuntu site where I first saw it mentioned! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/five-ubuntu-powered-netbooks-laptops-for-all-budgets Enjoy! Just discovered it also has a small remote control, including on/off. I suppose this is via bluetooth. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26/06/11 09:14, alan c wrote: On 25/06/11 20:05, alan c wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) PRE Installed Ubuntu 10.10 netbook and desktop sessions £225 :-) http://amzn.to/l8WX51 My summary of Ubuntu related things: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10980805#post10980805 Comment: I love it being pre installed! The battery is on the small side for serious walkabout. USB x2 only, has bluetooth Slimline Thanks go to OMG Ubuntu site where I first saw it mentioned! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/five-ubuntu-powered-netbooks-laptops-for-all-budgets Enjoy! Just discovered it also has a small remote control, including on/off. I suppose this is via bluetooth. Testing shows that the On will turn the laptop on, but after that, with Ubuntu anyway, nothing else seems to work, probably aimed at Windows. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] public services
On 25/06/11 11:45, Yorvyk wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:24:51 +0100 Carlos Ferreiracarlosemferre...@gmail.com wrote: The UK team should be talking to Universities and other public services, doing advocacy and trying to figure out what the obstacles to the adoption of free software are, and how they can be overcome. In fact, it's something I'd like to do myself. The problem with this idea is that you have to find somebody with influence who is willing to listen to some oik that's just wandered in off the street and is telling them their IT strategy is wrong. That's how it was described to me by a senior IT bod at a council. His suggestion was that Canonical need to be doing this sort of thing with professional 'sales' people. they do, we sometimes work with them. There are several consultancy companies working with local governments and at national level to promote and advocate software freedom. I am involved in some of this and hope to give a more wide ranging update on it in a few weeks. Also the philosophy of Open Source doesn't really wash, what’s needed is numbers in Pounds Stirling. Somewhat true, but vendor lock in is a bit of a driver. A lot of the standard Free Software arguments don't really apply at government level. you can adapt the software to your needs - yeah, we just pay them to do that what if your requirements are not on the vendor's roadmap - we tell them what their roadmap is and they do it what if the vendor goes out of business? - nobody goes out of business if they are trading with us what if you want to audit the source code to see what it does? - we demand to see it and they let us so they actually do understand and value the benefits of software freedom, they just are used to paying for most of it. Economic arguments have some traction, freedom to reuse software is of value, freedom from having to count users for license compliance is of value. Anyhow, back to the point. The stuff we should be doing as a LoCo is providing a community for the public and private sector to join. With community support there is no helper/helpee distinction, and I don't want to create one, it is a user group that shares technical support knowledge and helps each other, not a technical support service. The public sector at the moment has a real lack of community understanding, they are used to, and comfortable with, a customer/vendor relationship. The main failing I see at the moment is a tendency in their open source strategies to attempt to treat the Open Source community as a supplier, I don't want them to procure stuff from the community. I want them to join and be part of the community. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] public services
Yes Alan, Successful products/ developments today are customer inclusive. Including them at the LoCo level is a good idea. Although how skilfully this can be done requires some consideration. My experience is that local government (Councils) are desperate to discover and become a part of the technology/ internet scene and learn how it works. Having invested largely in other now declining sectors over the past 20 years, for example retail. The emphasis is shifting back towards a 'skills based' rather than a consumer-based economy. My sense is that social enterprise would provide the most interested people. Since their approach is similar to that of the open-source community. Plus the fact they already have a 'change-mindset.'In wanting to serve the community with ideas that originally came from a minority base : like Ubuntu. John On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 10:01 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: On 25/06/11 11:45, Yorvyk wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:24:51 +0100 Carlos Ferreiracarlosemferre...@gmail.com wrote: The UK team should be talking to Universities and other public services, doing advocacy and trying to figure out what the obstacles to the adoption of free software are, and how they can be overcome. In fact, it's something I'd like to do myself. The problem with this idea is that you have to find somebody with influence who is willing to listen to some oik that's just wandered in off the street and is telling them their IT strategy is wrong. That's how it was described to me by a senior IT bod at a council. His suggestion was that Canonical need to be doing this sort of thing with professional 'sales' people. they do, we sometimes work with them. There are several consultancy companies working with local governments and at national level to promote and advocate software freedom. I am involved in some of this and hope to give a more wide ranging update on it in a few weeks. Also the philosophy of Open Source doesn't really wash, what’s needed is numbers in Pounds Stirling. Somewhat true, but vendor lock in is a bit of a driver. A lot of the standard Free Software arguments don't really apply at government level. you can adapt the software to your needs - yeah, we just pay them to do that what if your requirements are not on the vendor's roadmap - we tell them what their roadmap is and they do it what if the vendor goes out of business? - nobody goes out of business if they are trading with us what if you want to audit the source code to see what it does? - we demand to see it and they let us so they actually do understand and value the benefits of software freedom, they just are used to paying for most of it. Economic arguments have some traction, freedom to reuse software is of value, freedom from having to count users for license compliance is of value. Anyhow, back to the point. The stuff we should be doing as a LoCo is providing a community for the public and private sector to join. With community support there is no helper/helpee distinction, and I don't want to create one, it is a user group that shares technical support knowledge and helps each other, not a technical support service. The public sector at the moment has a real lack of community understanding, they are used to, and comfortable with, a customer/vendor relationship. The main failing I see at the moment is a tendency in their open source strategies to attempt to treat the Open Source community as a supplier, I don't want them to procure stuff from the community. I want them to join and be part of the community. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] public services
On 26/06/11 10:34, john beddard wrote: My sense is that social enterprise would provide the most interested people. Since their approach is similar to that of the open-source community. Plus the fact they already have a 'change-mindset.'In wanting to serve the community with ideas that originally came from a minority base : like Ubuntu. What should be done as first steps in this direction? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] public services
Well Alan, Just using my own situation as a simple template. I would like to focus on a small local area such as the town Darlington. Darlington is a good choice because it has good railway links to other areas. 1. Start a promotional blitz in the area lasting say 4 weeks. Including Unis, Colleges, libraries and basically anyone who may be interested. Just highlighting Ubuntu. 2. Meet up with the local regeneration team with pointing out the possibility to attract a new exciting technology to the area. That can involve the community and save small business-including social enterprises- start-up companies a lot in IT costs. Asking the Council if they have any suitable venues and free shop fronts. Then ask if they would also like to attend any event or LoCo meetings : they always do anyway. 3. Do the same in local business clubs. In the clubs I have been to so far I thought that I would have to explain all about open-source and Ubuntu. It turned that people were already 'savvy' and some were already using Ubuntu. Further north in Newcastle, RedHat already have a support office. 4. Then go back to stage one advertising actual dates and for events and a possible first LoCo Meet up. John On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 14:28 +0100, alan c wrote: On 26/06/11 10:34, john beddard wrote: My sense is that social enterprise would provide the most interested people. Since their approach is similar to that of the open-source community. Plus the fact they already have a 'change-mindset.'In wanting to serve the community with ideas that originally came from a minority base : like Ubuntu. What should be done as first steps in this direction? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and ogg video. Looks like neat little device. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
Do you have to give it back? These machines look pretty tidy. What exact spec is the one they are shipping out? What is the display and keyboard like? On Jun 26, 2011 6:15 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26 June 2011 18:52, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have to give it back? Usually review units are either sent back or given away as prizes on the podcast. We never get to keep what we get. These machines look pretty tidy. What exact spec is the one they are shipping out? What is the display and keyboard like? Not sure yet, will let you know. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26/06/11 18:14, Alan Pope wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and ogg video. Looks like neat little device. It is good. I put some details in my link (ubuntuforums). 11.04 live USB worked well as far as I could see, also 10.04.2 live usb. The things I noticed as not best were the small (therefore light weight) battery capacity, and the two (only) usb slots, no card slots either. Display looks good to me. I am delighted with it. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
It is a six cell battery though, what is the capacity and part number, might be expandable. Alan, I listen to the PC regularly, I look forward to your review. On Jun 26, 2011 7:21 PM, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 26/06/11 18:14, Alan Pope wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and ogg video. Looks like neat little device. It is good. I put some details in my link (ubuntuforums). 11.04 live USB worked well as far as I could see, also 10.04.2 live usb. The things I noticed as not best were the small (therefore light weight) battery capacity, and the two (only) usb slots, no card slots either. Display looks good to me. I am delighted with it. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:21:30 +0100 alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 26/06/11 18:14, Alan Pope wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and ogg video. Looks like neat little device. It is good. I put some details in my link (ubuntuforums). 11.04 live USB worked well as far as I could see, also 10.04.2 live usb. The things I noticed as not best were the small (therefore light weight) battery capacity, and the two (only) usb slots, no card slots either. Display looks good to me. I am delighted with it. Just out of interest, why would you need more than 2 USB ports. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
You don't on average, but consider having a USB 3G modem, USB Disk and a phone (android), which is pretty common when I'm out and about. Swap that Android for a mouse or iPod. On Jun 26, 2011 8:19 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:21:30 +0100 alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 26/06/11 18:14, Alan Pope wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and ogg video. Looks like neat little device. It is good. I put some details in my link (ubuntuforums). 11.04 live USB worked well as far as I could see, also 10.04.2 live usb. The things I noticed as not best were the small (therefore light weight) battery capacity, and the two (only) usb slots, no card slots either. Display looks good to me. I am delighted with it. Just out of interest, why would you need more than 2 USB ports. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 18:14:44 +0100 Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and ogg video. Looks like neat little device. For me the most important thing is how long the batteries last in 'normal' usage. From what I can gather most are rather useless in this respect. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26/06/11 19:42, Kris Douglas wrote: It is a six cell battery though, what is the capacity and part number, might be expandable. Battery label: = hyanyu L70.11. smart rechargable Li-Polymer battery model Huan Yu L70 7.4V 3500mAh (dc) - - - - - - - - - Li-ion made in China = The battery is 10mm thick, approx 200mm x 57mm and fits pretty snug into a recess in the middle of the underside of the meenee. And increased capacity item would need to protrude downwards and the lack of underside flatness would need to be accommodated in some way. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26/06/11 20:18, Yorvyk wrote: On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:21:30 +0100 alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 26/06/11 18:14, Alan Pope wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and ogg video. Looks like neat little device. It is good. I put some details in my link (ubuntuforums). 11.04 live USB worked well as far as I could see, also 10.04.2 live usb. The things I noticed as not best were the small (therefore light weight) battery capacity, and the two (only) usb slots, no card slots either. Display looks good to me. I am delighted with it. Just out of interest, why would you need more than 2 USB ports. I tend to use a usb mouse, I might often boot from live usb, and frequently use a separate data usb stck. but it is pretty easy to use a bluetooth mouse, if I had one... It is a thin laptop, and I can see that it might be quite difficult to find economic places around an almost non existent edge. I suppose I have gotten used to the chunky eeepc 900, with three usb slots, (but no bluetooth). -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26 June 2011 20:18, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Just out of interest, why would you need more than 2 USB ports. Leaving things plugged in to reduce wear and tear, aside from wanting 3 things plugged in. On a desk my laptop (which only has two ports) has a mouse and the backup drive plugged in most of the time. When I want to sync my phone I have to sacrifice backups or mouse :) Or plug a cheap USB hub in. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26 June 2011 18:14, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. Of all things, I'm curious about the wifi kill switch. I've encountered laptops in the past where they are software-based (as most/all seem to be nowadays) and don't work terribly well in Ubuntu/Linux. This kind of issue affects battery life and being able to use them in (supposed) no-wifi-allowed places. Actually since it appears to have Bluetooth, the same questions apply there... Regards, Matthew -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu South west loco team page
As the following site relating to the UK south west loco team page is only being edited by myself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthWest I have re-arranged the content, could people if they no longer want to be part of the team please remove them selves by logging inand deleting their name, I am going to add a link to the main UK page and suggest people use that to communicate with South west members,both myself and rob beard are on this. I will also add a link to the dclug sign up page so they have a local group to join, Team meetings for loco teams are no different to lug meets really as inboth cases we offer support and try and promote open source / Linux generally. I am just trying to tidy things up a little. thanks Paul -- Paul Sutton Cert SLPS (Open) http://www.zleap.net 17th September 2011 - Software freedom day -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26 June 2011 22:49, Matthew Wild mwi...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 June 2011 18:14, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. Of all things, I'm curious about the wifi kill switch. I've encountered laptops in the past where they are software-based (as most/all seem to be nowadays) and don't work terribly well in Ubuntu/Linux. This kind of issue affects battery life and being able to use them in (supposed) no-wifi-allowed places. Actually since it appears to have Bluetooth, the same questions apply there... I've seen a few laptops with kill switches now and haven't found one that doesn't work with Ubuntu. There's usually a method of turning them off in BIOS. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood Is this your sanderling? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225
On 26/06/11 22:49, Matthew Wild wrote: On 26 June 2011 18:14, Alan Popea...@popey.com wrote: On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?) I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast. If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let us know. Of all things, I'm curious about the wifi kill switch. I've encountered laptops in the past where they are software-based (as most/all seem to be nowadays) and don't work terribly well in Ubuntu/Linux. This kind of issue affects battery life and being able to use them in (supposed) no-wifi-allowed places. Actually since it appears to have Bluetooth, the same questions apply there... [Fn] [F1] is wifi kill and it works for off and then for on again ok [Fn] [F2] is touchpad disable, also works [delete] for bios I do not see any setting for bluetooth in the bios Ubuntu 10.10 allows turn off bluetooth by left click on icon for menu -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
