[ubuntu-uk] Books and Butties at the British Library

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Bell
We now have a signup sheet on the LoCo directory for the visit to the 
British Library Science Fiction exhibition and geeknic


http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1032/detail/

Would be great to get an indication of numbers so put yourself down and 
lets go see some books.
This is a family friendly event, so drag along boyfriends, girlfriends, 
spouses, parents and offspring (or sensible combinations thereof)


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[ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread Norman Silverstone
I have just completed the three stage upgrade process and now have
Ubuntu 11.04 in all its glory except that it appears that my desktop
will not run the latest layout and I am stuck with GNOME. Furthermore,
the icon for adjusting the volume of the sound is no longer there on the
top panel. I would like to try out the new replacement for GNOME and
also get the sound icon back and would be very grateful for any useful
advice. Thanks

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 27 June 2011 15:07, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote:

 I have just completed the three stage upgrade process and now have
 Ubuntu 11.04 in all its glory except that it appears that my desktop
 will not run the latest layout and I am stuck with GNOME. Furthermore,
 the icon for adjusting the volume of the sound is no longer there on the
 top panel. I would like to try out the new replacement for GNOME and
 also get the sound icon back and would be very grateful for any useful
 advice. Thanks


Obvious first question: when you log in, do you get the options for Ubuntu
and Ubuntu Classic at the bottom of the screen?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread John Stevenson
On 27 June 2011 15:07, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote:

 I have just completed the three stage upgrade process and now have
 Ubuntu 11.04 in all its glory except that it appears that my desktop
 will not run the latest layout and I am stuck with GNOME. Furthermore,
 the icon for adjusting the volume of the sound is no longer there on the
 top panel. I would like to try out the new replacement for GNOME and
 also get the sound icon back and would be very grateful for any useful
 advice. Thanks

 Norman


Hello Norman,
You could create another account and see if the desktop works okay when you
login with that new account.  Sometimes configurations from earlier versions
of ubuntu cause a few little issues.  Its a simple, non-destructive way to
check an upgrade.

If it is the same when you login to the new account, there may be a
limitation running the new Unity desktop or something may not have upgraded
correctly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Mark Fraser
On Sunday 26 Jun 2011 23:08:10 Paul Sutton wrote:
 As the following site relating to the UK south west loco team page is
 only being edited by myself
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthWest

I am located in the south west - Somerset - and was a member of the LUGOG. 
When that went quiet I tried to join SSLUG, but that has gone quiet too. Is it 
possible for me to join the UK SouthWest loco team even though I won't be able 
to attend any of the meetings?

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[ubuntu-uk] Scheduling software recommendations

2011-06-27 Thread Avi Greenbury

Morning All,

I'm after some scheduling software, and I'm sure other people have 
scratched this itch previously. Having never really used any before I'm 
not precisely sure what I want, but the situation is that we have some 
people available to do work, and some people scheduling work in. There's 
quite a large intersection of the two groups.


I've made a list of all the features I can think of that I'd like, but 
this probably isn't exhaustive. Only absolute must haves are that it's 
both sorts of free and we can host it ourselves.


Features I know I'd like:

* Each of the people in the 'doing work' group have an ical or similar 
feed containing work for them


* An ical feed that shows *all* the scheduled work.

* Email reminders. Being able to run arbitrary scripts as reminders 
would be good too.


* A simple interface - having people actually use the thing is way more 
important than pretty effects.



Would-be-nices:

* Ability to assign work based on time (X is covering from 0100 - 0600, 
so this job at 0300 automatically goes to X)


* Ability to script entries, so we can concoct our own interfaces/tie it 
in with other systems.


* Sit on a webserver in php or perl so I can easily tie it in to the 
other http auth'd bits and pieces we have. It'll have a VM to itself so 
tomcat or whatever's doable too. I can't envisage a good-but-not-HTTP 
means of access, but I'm open to suggestions.



Anyone got any suggestions?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Paul Sutton
On 27/06/11 16:17, Mark Fraser wrote:
 On Sunday 26 Jun 2011 23:08:10 Paul Sutton wrote:
 As the following site relating to the UK south west loco team page is
 only being edited by myself

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthWest
 
 I am located in the south west - Somerset - and was a member of the LUGOG. 
 When that went quiet I tried to join SSLUG, but that has gone quiet too. Is 
 it 
 possible for me to join the UK SouthWest loco team even though I won't be 
 able 
 to attend any of the meetings?
 


I can't see why not,  i think its simply a case of adding your name to
the list of people on the site,  I am not even sure if the sw loco team
has a mailing list, I think its better if we use the main uk list (as in
this one),

If you would like to Join the Devon / Cornwall Lug then the address is
http://www.dcglug.org.uk and to join its http://www.dcglug.org.uk/join

We can still co-ordinate our efforts via both lists.  Perhaps if you
find any more Linux users in Somerset they could join DCLUG and once you
have a few people in the same area,  you can arrange further meetings
and from that reform the Somerset lug. (think longer time scale for this
though)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scheduling software recommendations

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Lord (News)

Hi Avi,

A few apps I can think of will do some of what you need as well a lot of 
other stuff that your probably do not:


OpenERP - Has full calendar/scheduling (mainly used in Sales or Project 
management context) would probably do what you need (Python). Has 
CalDAV/Ical support so you can sync to iPhone/Lightning etc.


Horde - (http://www.horde.org) similar to above I guess in that it is a 
groupware app. Not sure about functionality haven't used it ages (PHP).


eHour (http://www.ehour.nl) - More of a timesheet app but a nice UI and 
might do what you need (Java/tomcat).


Chandler/Cosmo - Although now a bit old this might be good: 
http://chandlerproject.org/ Chandler is a desktop app for time 
management plus there is a multi-user calendar server (CalDAV).


There are probably more but these are off the top of my head.

Thought about just using a shared Google Calendar too?

Cheers

Al


On 27/06/11 16:42, Avi Greenbury wrote:

Morning All,

I'm after some scheduling software, and I'm sure other people have
scratched this itch previously. Having never really used any before I'm
not precisely sure what I want, but the situation is that we have some
people available to do work, and some people scheduling work in. There's
quite a large intersection of the two groups.

I've made a list of all the features I can think of that I'd like, but
this probably isn't exhaustive. Only absolute must haves are that it's
both sorts of free and we can host it ourselves.

Features I know I'd like:

* Each of the people in the 'doing work' group have an ical or similar
feed containing work for them

* An ical feed that shows *all* the scheduled work.

* Email reminders. Being able to run arbitrary scripts as reminders
would be good too.

* A simple interface - having people actually use the thing is way more
important than pretty effects.


Would-be-nices:

* Ability to assign work based on time (X is covering from 0100 - 0600,
so this job at 0300 automatically goes to X)

* Ability to script entries, so we can concoct our own interfaces/tie it
in with other systems.

* Sit on a webserver in php or perl so I can easily tie it in to the
other http auth'd bits and pieces we have. It'll have a VM to itself so
tomcat or whatever's doable too. I can't envisage a good-but-not-HTTP
means of access, but I'm open to suggestions.


Anyone got any suggestions?




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread Barry Drake
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 15:07 +0100, Norman Silverstone wrote:
 I have just completed the three stage upgrade process and now have
 Ubuntu 11.04 in all its glory except that it appears that my desktop
 will not run the latest layout and I am stuck with GNOME. Furthermore,
 the icon for adjusting the volume of the sound is no longer there on the
 top panel. I would like to try out the new replacement for GNOME and
 also get the sound icon back and would be very grateful for any useful
 advice. Thanks

You might be interested to know that the testing version of Oneiric
(11.10) now implements the 2d version of the Unity desktop, and will run
on computers that cannot support Unity on 11.04.  It is not finished,
and may be a bit buggy, but it seems to work OK.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 June 2011 17:04, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
 You might be interested to know that the testing version of Oneiric
 (11.10) now implements the 2d version of the Unity desktop, and will run
 on computers that cannot support Unity on 11.04.  It is not finished,
 and may be a bit buggy, but it seems to work OK.


Unity 2D is available in 11.04 too.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread scoundrel50a

On 27/06/11 17:04, Barry Drake wrote:

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 15:07 +0100, Norman Silverstone wrote:

I have just completed the three stage upgrade process and now have
Ubuntu 11.04 in all its glory except that it appears that my desktop
will not run the latest layout and I am stuck with GNOME. Furthermore,
the icon for adjusting the volume of the sound is no longer there on the
top panel. I would like to try out the new replacement for GNOME and
also get the sound icon back and would be very grateful for any useful
advice. Thanks

You might be interested to know that the testing version of Oneiric
(11.10) now implements the 2d version of the Unity desktop, and will run
on computers that cannot support Unity on 11.04.  It is not finished,
and may be a bit buggy, but it seems to work OK.

Regards,Barry.


Oneiric still hasnt got the backlight problem fixed though, which is 
very frustrating...




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Bell

On 27/06/11 16:44, Paul Sutton wrote:


I can't see why not,  i think its simply a case of adding your name to
the list of people on the site,  I am not even sure if the sw loco team
has a mailing list, I think its better if we use the main uk list (as in
this one),
We have pages covering all the diagonal compass points listing people, 
LUGs and other resources in that general direction. This is awesome, but 
on a point of terminology they can't be called LoCo teams, the NorthEast 
page is a good model and I would like to see the others like this 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast if they get called LoCo teams 
it would cause confusion and trouble for our Ubuntu-UK LoCo reapproval 
application, so lets call them focus groups, or pages listing stuff in 
that corner of the country


for reference here are the corners:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthWest
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthWest
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthEast

and it would be great if folk could update their respective corner using 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast as a template. We are going to 
have a bit of a day of updating the reapproval application tomorrow in 
advance of the team meeting at 9PM so it would be great if people could 
pile on to IRC and help http://ubuntu-uk.org/join-the-conversation/


thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread Barry Drake
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 17:05 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 Unity 2D is available in 11.04 too.

Hadn't realised that.  I'm running 11.04, and the login screen only
offers me Ubuntu or Ubuntu Classic.  11.10 offers me Unity, Unity 2d and
Gnome (though on the current testing download Gnome is not implemented.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade from 9.10 to 11.04

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 June 2011 18:06, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote:
 Hadn't realised that.  I'm running 11.04, and the login screen only
 offers me Ubuntu or Ubuntu Classic.  11.10 offers me Unity, Unity 2d and
 Gnome (though on the current testing download Gnome is not implemented.


On 11.04 simply:-

sudo apt-get install unity-2d

And you'll get it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MeeNee Notebook preinstalled Ubuntu £225

2011-06-27 Thread Tony Pursell
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 18:14 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 On 25 June 2011 20:05, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
  Purchased new notebook laptop 'MeeNee' brand (?)
 
 
 I managed to blag one from the manufacturer to review on the podcast.
 If there's any specific things people want tested on this thing, let
 us know.

Test out Suspend and Hibernate. These are very useful if battery life is
limited. 

My new Eee PC suspends if I leave it alone (on battery power) for more
than 30 mins and comes back to life beautifully.  But Hibernate is a bit
of a mess.

 
 I'll probably play with the shipped version of Ubuntu and then
 probably give 11.04 a go. Will try out the usual iplayer, youtube etc
 to see how it performs, and also see how well it plays back h.264 and
 ogg video.
 
 Looks like neat little device.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scheduling software recommendations

2011-06-27 Thread Jon Spriggs
On 27 June 2011 16:54, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Avi,
snip
 Horde - (http://www.horde.org) similar to above I guess in that it is a
 groupware app. Not sure about functionality haven't used it ages (PHP).

Horde 3 (the framework) had a very decent XMLRPC interface which would
give you access to about 90% of the system. It certainly would have an
iCal feed etc that you'd want. They have recently upgraded the
framework and all the core apps to a new major release (including
Kronolith - their calendaring application) so that could be pretty
close to what you want.

In addition, if there's specific functionality that you want, which
isn't there, you can purchase commercial support from the core
developers, and get them to help you get it working. While many of the
core devs are based in the US, at least one (Jan Schnider, I think) is
German, and still lives there I think.

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[ubuntu-uk] Temperature

2011-06-27 Thread Dave Hanson
So know I guess is  a good time to be thinking about home server
temperatures (after the heat of course) Does anyone have a recommendation
for a program which could send an email when the machines temp reaches a
certain degree. Obviously without a GUI?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Rob Beard

On 27/06/11 16:17, Mark Fraser wrote:

On Sunday 26 Jun 2011 23:08:10 Paul Sutton wrote:

As the following site relating to the UK south west loco team page is
only being edited by myself

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthWest


I am located in the south west - Somerset - and was a member of the LUGOG.
When that went quiet I tried to join SSLUG, but that has gone quiet too. Is it
possible for me to join the UK SouthWest loco team even though I won't be able
to attend any of the meetings?



Where abouts in Somerset are you?

If you're not too far from Exeter then would you be interested in coming 
to one of the Devon  Cornwall LUG meets in Exeter?


I can't see any reason why you can't join the South West Loco team, 
after all it's possible to have online meetings and contact via e-mail :-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Temperature

2011-06-27 Thread Kris Douglas
On 27 June 2011 20:49, Dave Hanson d...@hansonforensics.co.uk wrote:

 So know I guess is  a good time to be thinking about home server temperatures 
 (after the heat of course) Does anyone have a recommendation for a program 
 which could send an email when the machines temp reaches a certain degree. 
 Obviously without a GUI?

I am no expert, but I was considering this today. It seems you can do
something with some lm-sensors (type sensors in cmd line) which could
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Scheduling software recommendations

2011-06-27 Thread Avi
Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 OpenERP - Has full calendar/scheduling (mainly used in Sales or
 Project management context) would probably do what you need (Python).
 Has CalDAV/Ical support so you can sync to iPhone/Lightning etc.
 
 Horde - (http://www.horde.org) similar to above I guess in that it is
 a groupware app. Not sure about functionality haven't used it ages
 (PHP).

Cheers!

I've got the VM up and installing, so these'll be on it. Though
given Jon Spriggs' email I'll probably not do Horde from the repos :)

 Thought about just using a shared Google Calendar too?

Yeah, that was my initial thought, but I'd rather host it here.
Management would probably like the data security, I just want to be
able to fiddle with the system to a greater degree than a free google
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[ubuntu-uk] Regional pages was Re: Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Neil Greenwood

On 27.06.11 17:46, Alan Bell wrote:

We have pages covering all the diagonal compass points listing people,
LUGs and other resources in that general direction. This is awesome, but
on a point of terminology they can't be called LoCo teams, the NorthEast
page is a good model and I would like to see the others like this
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast if they get called LoCo teams
it would cause confusion and trouble for our Ubuntu-UK LoCo reapproval
application, so lets call them focus groups, or pages listing stuff in
that corner of the country

for reference here are the corners:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthWest
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthWest
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/SouthEast

and it would be great if folk could update their respective corner using
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/NorthEast as a template. We are going to
have a bit of a day of updating the reapproval application tomorrow in
advance of the team meeting at 9PM so it would be great if people could
pile on to IRC and help http://ubuntu-uk.org/join-the-conversation/

thanks,

Alan Bell
Ubuntu UK LoCo Team Leader




So, where does Wales fit in here? Possibly the south Wales team could 
fit in the SouthWest page. Or maybe there ought to be a separate page 
for Wales, like Scotland has.


WDYT?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Temperature

2011-06-27 Thread Chris Rowson
Might want to change this line

 TEMP=$(sensors -u | grep temp1 | tail -n1 | awk '{print $2}')

to

TEMP=$(sensors -u | grep temp1_input | tail -n1 | awk '{print $2}')

I think the suggested script might return the critical temperature
rather than the actual temp of the CPU ;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Regional pages was Re: Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Dan Wood
Is there anything for the Isle of Man?
No LUG of any sort here as far as I know. I keep meaning to do
something about it - any pointers?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Regional pages was Re: Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 June 2011 22:25, Dan Wood mr.dan.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there anything for the Isle of Man?
 No LUG of any sort here as far as I know. I keep meaning to do
 something about it - any pointers?


You'd hope so given the man who pays the bills lives there :D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Regional pages was Re: Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Tony Pursell
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 22:05 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 On 27 June 2011 21:49, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote:
  So, where does Wales fit in here?
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WelshTeam
 
 Separate team.
 
 Al.
 

But we are all ubuntu-uk members as well, aren't we?  Well, at least, I
am, and do contribute a little to the UK team.  Also ubuntu-cymru is a
bit moribund and never got approved






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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Books and Butties at the British Library

2011-06-27 Thread Bruno Girin
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 10:00 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
 We now have a signup sheet on the LoCo directory for the visit to the 
 British Library Science Fiction exhibition and geeknic
 
 http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/1032/detail/
 
 Would be great to get an indication of numbers so put yourself down and 
 lets go see some books.
 This is a family friendly event, so drag along boyfriends, girlfriends, 
 spouses, parents and offspring (or sensible combinations thereof)

I may be there. It will mostly depend on how much blood I have left in
my alcohol considering that I'm going to a friend's wedding the day
before :-)

Bruno



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Regional pages was Re: Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Pope
On 27 June 2011 22:35, Tony Pursell a...@princeswalk.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 But we are all ubuntu-uk members as well, aren't we?

Individuals can choose to be in whichever team they like. The -cym
guys decided they wanted to have an entirely separate team.

 Well, at least, I
 am, and do contribute a little to the UK team.  Also ubuntu-cymru is a
 bit moribund and never got approved


This is not a state that was not predicted at the time. Hindsight is
awesome. If there are people who would like to kick start the -cym
team into action I'm sure the members of the team would greatly
welcome the help. Same goes for the UK team of course.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Regional pages was Re: Ubuntu South west loco team page

2011-06-27 Thread Alan Bell

On 27/06/11 22:35, Tony Pursell wrote:


But we are all ubuntu-uk members as well, aren't we?

I would hope so, yes

  Well, at least, I
am, and do contribute a little to the UK team.  Also ubuntu-cymru is a
bit moribund and never got approved


The Welsh team does kind of have a separate identity, but is part of the 
UK, much like it is in real life. In terms of Ubuntu, the particular 
focus of the Welsh team is the Welsh language translation effort 
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-cy and what should in theory be a 
Welsh language IRC channel at #ubuntu-cym. It isn't going to be a 
separate approved LoCo any time soon, if ever, and I have sent some UK 
conference swag in their direction for an event and probably will do again.


Alan.

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