[ubuntu-uk] Reapproval interview with the LoCo Council tonight, 9PM
Hi all, our LoCo team reapproval is tonight, we have a fair bit done, but if people could review the form and in particular add dates on events, and more inline pictures then that would be fantastic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011 have a look at the California and Arizona applications to see what others have done for today https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda We also need to have as much support as we can during the meeting, which is on IRC, in the #ubuntu-meeting channel at 9PM this evening. hope to see you all there Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Libre Office – troubleshooting
Hello everyone!I have recently joined the comms team in London as a Graphic Designer and have been tasked with updating the slideshow presentations for the company.I was hoping someone out there may be able to shed some light on some problems I have been encountering while trying to build slides in Libre Office, as detailed below.I am building these slides as brand-compliant templates for others to use so would like, in turn, to be able to advise them on how to overcome such issues.It is probably worth mentioning that I am using Libre Office in Mac OS as my machine doesn't seem to get along too well with Ubuntu :-(Here we go...Image qualityPoor image quality when placing images, such as the pictograms, into Libre Office. Images seem to degrade further when the slides are displayed (jaggedy edges or fuzzy). I have tried various formats to no avail – vector images seem to disappear from the file leaving nothing but an empty picture box and jpegs/pngs etc. all suffer the fuzzy or jaggedy effect. (see screenshot of a png below)Consistency when cropping imagesI'm having problems cropping images of various size so they all match – is there a way to specify a crop area for all such images without stretching/squashing them, such as placing into picture boxes of a specific size, instead of trying to crop each image individually?Text formattingWhen copying and pasting text from one text box to another, the formatting disappears/defaults. This is a particular problem with text that contains bullet points – bullet points appear where I had none and disappear from where I did, they also change colour! It also sometimes happens when dragging slides from one presentation to another.Those are the main ones – if anyone knows how to get round any of them I would be really grateful!Have a lovely day :-)EmilyEmily MaherGraphic designerCommunications teamCanonical UK ltdemily.ma...@canonical.comircemily-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office – troubleshooting
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 10:53 +0100, Emily Maher wrote: [...] Text formatting When copying and pasting text from one text box to another, the formatting disappears/defaults. This is a particular problem with text that contains bullet points – bullet points appear where I had none and disappear from where I did, they also change colour! It also sometimes happens when dragging slides from one presentation to another. Have you tried Paste special? If I recall correctly is CTRL + SHIFT + v. In that way you get a dialog with different options. When you copy something it goes to the clipboard, including some metadata information (such as styles). LibreOffice (OpenOffice) can guess what you want to do, but it's unlikely you're going to be happy every time. So that paste special functionality is very useful! My 0.2 cents! Regards, Juan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office – troubleshooting
Seems to do the trick - yipee! One down, two to go! Thanks Juan :-) On 16 Aug 2011, at 11:01, Juan J. Martínez wrote: On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 10:53 +0100, Emily Maher wrote: [...] Text formatting When copying and pasting text from one text box to another, the formatting disappears/defaults. This is a particular problem with text that contains bullet points – bullet points appear where I had none and disappear from where I did, they also change colour! It also sometimes happens when dragging slides from one presentation to another. Have you tried Paste special? If I recall correctly is CTRL + SHIFT + v. In that way you get a dialog with different options. When you copy something it goes to the clipboard, including some metadata information (such as styles). LibreOffice (OpenOffice) can guess what you want to do, but it's unlikely you're going to be happy every time. So that paste special functionality is very useful! My 0.2 cents! Regards, Juan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Emily Maher Graphic designer Communications team Canonical UK ltd emily.ma...@canonical.com ircemily -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office – troubleshooting
On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 11:21 +0100, Emily Maher wrote: Seems to do the trick - yipee! One down, two to go! Thanks Juan :-) The other two points might be platform dependent. Sorry, I missed the I am using Libre Office in Mac OS part. Have you tried checking LibreOffice bugtrack? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=libreoffice+mac Regards, Juan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] trouble with a Vodafone TopUp And Go dongle
On 2011-08-13, Tony Pursell wrote: On 13 August 2011 17:03, Adam Funk a24...@ducksburg.com wrote: I plugged one of these into my Ubuntu laptop, which recognised it as a Vodafone Mobile Broadband K3570-Z, but I couldn't get a working connection (the network manager icon in the notification area went into a very high speed spin with the trying to connect two dots). There was a discussion about this on the list a month or so ago - worth looking in the archives. My settings for the older K3565-2 are Number *99# Username blank Password blank APN: pp.internet Network ID blank Type: Any PIN: blank You can give those a try, but I think in the discussion the newer dongle has a different APN that was successful. After various combinations and copying what was in the working Windows config, I have concluded that the magic values for my system are as follows (for the record, in the hope that this may help someone else): Number *99# Usernameweb Passwordblank APN PPBUNDLE.INTERNET Network ID blank TypeAny PIN blank Also, I think that it works in one USB port (the one I usually have my mouse in) but not the other one --- is that possible? Thanks, Adam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libre Office – troubleshooting
On 16/08/11 10:53, Emily Maher wrote: Hello everyone! Hi! It is probably worth mentioning that I am using Libre Office in Mac OS as my machine doesn't seem to get along too well with Ubuntu :-( can you elaborate on this a bit, if we can get Ubuntu running on your machine, or you can find a working machine then it would be easier to reproduce and fix any issues you have. Also if you are designing brand compliant templates it is more important they look the way you want them on Ubuntu than Mac OS. I have had huge problems with colour reproduction on Mac, they do mad stuff with colour spaces and things that start #dd4814 jump around to all kinds of other colours. I believe it works well if you use a defined workflow and calibrated everything and adobe products end to end, but on Ubuntu everything with colour just works as there is no confusing gamut mapping stuff going on. Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] trouble with a Vodafone TopUp And Go dongle
On 16/08/2011 11:38, Adam Funk wrote: Also, I think that it works in one USB port (the one I usually have my mouse in) but not the other one --- is that possible? Thanks, Adam It probably needs a powered USB port - AFAIK not all USB ports are powered. Try your mouse in the one the dongle doesn't work on -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval interview with the LoCo Council tonight, 9PM
Hi all, our LoCo team reapproval is tonight, we have a fair bit done, but if people could review the form and in particular add dates on events, and more inline pictures then that would be fantastic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011 have a look at the California and Arizona applications to see what others have done for today https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda We also need to have as much support as we can during the meeting, which is on IRC, in the #ubuntu-meeting channel at 9PM this evening. hope to see you all there Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ __ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email Hi Alan, In the application reapproval document introduction section, the it's leapt out as being wrong. Initial impression would be improved by using its. Nit-picking, perhaps, but important for such a document. My admiration goes to you and all the team for making ubuntu a marvelous system. I've introduced it to one or two people as an alternative to broken Windows and no great complaints so far ... Neil __ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition
Hi all, I have just received my new laptop. Its a Thinkpad x121e, with Intel (Core i3). I am trying to put ubuntu on it, but i am having some problems with the 64 bit live USB. When i run the USB i get i get a GRUB-looking screen, with options to: 1. Try Ubuntu without installing 2. Install Ubuntu 3. Check the disk Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot, i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'. To check the USB, i tried it on my old laptop (32bit, Celeron M). When i did so i got a purple screen with an image of what looks like a keyboard and a man, and then a message telling me to try a kernel which matches with my machined architecture. I then tried a live USB with 32 bit ubuntu and the live USB works fine - i am sending this email from this live instance. The same can be said for a 32 bit Mint live usb. So i am not sure what is going on. If anyone could tell me why the 64bit install is not working, it would be great as i'd like to get it up and running. The only thing i could think of was that i have downloaded the amd64.iso, and this is an intel machine, but all the sites on the web suggest that this shouldn't make a difference (if it does, where might i get an 64 bit version for intel). In addition i am not sure why, if this was the problem, my old celeron laptop brings up the error message while the new machine just hangs. One more question i have is about dual booting and maintaining my recovery partition (something i have not had to do before). From GParted i see that the recovery partition is located at the end of the hard drive. I am wondering two things: 1. If i resize the windows partition will the recovery partition move next to it? 2. If not would i do well to install ubuntu between the windows and recovery partition, and how do i do this since the 'install into largest continuous space' option seems to have been replaced by the 'install alongside windows' option in the installer. Will the alongside option put the install in the right place? As always, any and all help is very much appreciated. Thanks, James. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition
On 16.08.11 13:03, James Morrissey wrote: Hi all, I have just received my new laptop. Its a Thinkpad x121e, with Intel (Core i3). I am trying to put ubuntu on it, but i am having some problems with the 64 bit live USB. When i run the USB i get i get a GRUB-looking screen, with options to: 1. Try Ubuntu without installing 2. Install Ubuntu 3. Check the disk That means it's booted OK as far as GRUB. Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot, i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'. That sounds like a video driver issue. I think when the menu is displayed it mentions pressing different F-keys across the bottom of the screen. IIRC, one offers a failsafe video option. Use that and see if you get further. The other thing to try is to edit the boot entry and remove the 'quiet' option at the end - this will hopefully display a more-helpful error message than a blank screen! Let us know if you need help with how to do that... To check the USB, i tried it on my old laptop (32bit, Celeron M). When i did so i got a purple screen with an image of what looks like a keyboard and a man, and then a message telling me to try a kernel which matches with my machined architecture. That's expected behaviour when booting a 64-bit live 'disk' on 32-bit hardware. The purple screen probably briefly appears for the 64-bit laptop too. I then tried a live USB with 32 bit ubuntu and the live USB works fine - i am sending this email from this live instance. The same can be said for a 32 bit Mint live usb. On your new hardware? If you don't have more than 4Gb of RAM on the new laptop, you won't get much (any?) benefit running the 64-bit version. Even if you have more than 4Gb of RAM, the installer will install a special PAE kernel that will use the extra RAM - each process will be limited however. Other than that, the 32-bit version will do what most people need, even on 64-bit hardware. So i am not sure what is going on. If anyone could tell me why the 64bit install is not working, it would be great as i'd like to get it up and running. The only thing i could think of was that i have downloaded the amd64.iso, and this is an intel machine, but all the sites on the web suggest that this shouldn't make a difference (if it does, where might i get an 64 bit version for intel). In addition i am not sure why, if this was the problem, my old celeron laptop brings up the error message while the new machine just hangs. amd64 is the correct image. The reason for the name is that there was an earlier, non-compatible, Intel 64-bit architecture, codenamed Itanium. This is only used for servers. amd64 will work on 64-bit AMD, Intel and other desktop processors. One more question i have is about dual booting and maintaining my recovery partition (something i have not had to do before). From GParted i see that the recovery partition is located at the end of the hard drive. I am wondering two things: 1. If i resize the windows partition will the recovery partition move next to it? Not by default, no. 2. If not would i do well to install ubuntu between the windows and recovery partition, and how do i do this since the 'install into largest continuous space' option seems to have been replaced by the 'install alongside windows' option in the installer. Will the alongside option put the install in the right place? I don't know. However, if you select the Advanced or Manual partitioning option, you can make the changes you want and then select the partition into which Ubuntu will be installed. As always, any and all help is very much appreciated. Thanks, James. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition
Hi Neil, Thanks for the response. Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot, i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'. That sounds like a video driver issue. I think when the menu is displayed it mentions pressing different F-keys across the bottom of the screen. IIRC, one offers a failsafe video option. Use that and see if you get further. The other thing to try is to edit the boot entry and remove the 'quiet' option at the end - this will hopefully display a more-helpful error message than a blank screen! Let us know if you need help with how to do that... When i get to the GRUB screen i can't seem to see any F-keys listed at the bottom. All i have is the following; Use the (up arrow) and (down arrow) keys to select which entry is highlighted. Press enter to boot the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a command line. I am not sure what to do with this, i am guessing that possibility of editing command lines is the one you were referring to in terms of the 'quiet' option. I have no idea how to do this so if you think it would be useful, some instructions would be great. I then tried a live USB with 32 bit ubuntu and the live USB works fine - i am sending this email from this live instance. The same can be said for a 32 bit Mint live usb. On your new hardware? Yes, both 32 bit live USBs work on the new hardware. It is just the 64 bit ones that don't. If you don't have more than 4Gb of RAM on the new laptop, you won't get much (any?) benefit running the 64-bit version. Even if you have more than 4Gb of RAM, the installer will install a special PAE kernel that will use the extra RAM - each process will be limited however. Other than that, the 32-bit version will do what most people need, even on 64-bit hardware. At the moment i have 4GB of RAM installed, but space for another 4GB, which i will likely buy in time. So i would like, at some stage, to get the 64 bit version working even if i have to install the 32 bit for the next while - until video driver issues get sorted. 2. If not would i do well to install ubuntu between the windows and recovery partition, and how do i do this since the 'install into largest continuous space' option seems to have been replaced by the 'install alongside windows' option in the installer. Will the alongside option put the install in the right place? I don't know. However, if you select the Advanced or Manual partitioning option, you can make the changes you want and then select the partition into which Ubuntu will be installed. Thanks for the advice, i'll hopefully get onto that when i can get a live instance running. It would be great to get this working. Do let me know if you have any other ideas about editing the commands, or sorting the video driver. Thanks, j On 16 August 2011 14:24, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 16.08.11 13:03, James Morrissey wrote: Hi all, I have just received my new laptop. Its a Thinkpad x121e, with Intel (Core i3). I am trying to put ubuntu on it, but i am having some problems with the 64 bit live USB. When i run the USB i get i get a GRUB-looking screen, with options to: 1. Try Ubuntu without installing 2. Install Ubuntu 3. Check the disk That means it's booted OK as far as GRUB. Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot, i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'. That sounds like a video driver issue. I think when the menu is displayed it mentions pressing different F-keys across the bottom of the screen. IIRC, one offers a failsafe video option. Use that and see if you get further. The other thing to try is to edit the boot entry and remove the 'quiet' option at the end - this will hopefully display a more-helpful error message than a blank screen! Let us know if you need help with how to do that... To check the USB, i tried it on my old laptop (32bit, Celeron M). When i did so i got a purple screen with an image of what looks like a keyboard and a man, and then a message telling me to try a kernel which matches with my machined architecture. That's expected behaviour when booting a 64-bit live 'disk' on 32-bit hardware. The purple screen probably briefly appears for the 64-bit laptop too. I then tried a live USB with 32 bit ubuntu and the live USB works fine - i am sending this email from this live instance. The same can be said for a 32 bit Mint live usb. On your new hardware? If you don't have more than 4Gb of RAM on the new laptop, you won't get much (any?) benefit running the 64-bit version. Even if you have more than 4Gb of RAM, the installer will install a
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, James Morrissey morrissey.jam...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have just received my new laptop. Its a Thinkpad x121e, with Intel (Core i3). I am trying to put ubuntu on it, but i am having some problems with the 64 bit live USB. When i run the USB i get i get a GRUB-looking screen, with options to: 1. Try Ubuntu without installing 2. Install Ubuntu 3. Check the disk Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot, i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'. To check the USB, i tried it on my old laptop (32bit, Celeron M). When i did so i got a purple screen with an image of what looks like a keyboard and a man, and then a message telling me to try a kernel which matches with my machined architecture. I then tried a live USB with 32 bit ubuntu and the live USB works fine - i am sending this email from this live instance. The same can be said for a 32 bit Mint live usb. So i am not sure what is going on. If anyone could tell me why the 64bit install is not working, it would be great as i'd like to get it up and running. The only thing i could think of was that i have downloaded the amd64.iso, and this is an intel machine, but all the sites on the web suggest that this shouldn't make a difference (if it does, where might i get an 64 bit version for intel). In addition i am not sure why, if this was the problem, my old celeron laptop brings up the error message while the new machine just hangs. One more question i have is about dual booting and maintaining my recovery partition (something i have not had to do before). From GParted i see that the recovery partition is located at the end of the hard drive. I am wondering two things: 1. If i resize the windows partition will the recovery partition move next to it? 2. If not would i do well to install ubuntu between the windows and recovery partition, and how do i do this since the 'install into largest continuous space' option seems to have been replaced by the 'install alongside windows' option in the installer. Will the alongside option put the install in the right place? As always, any and all help is very much appreciated. Thanks, James. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Hello James, Perhaps not the most useful response you'll receive but... I had the same issue with the live cd on 64 bit, the only way I could get it on was to start with a 10.04 disk and upgrade. It did go without issue and if you really need to get it on your machine asap perhaps this is the best route? Best Regards, Dave Hanson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition
On 16.08.11 15:15, James Morrissey wrote: Hi Neil, Thanks for the response. Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot, i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'. That sounds like a video driver issue. I think when the menu is displayed it mentions pressing different F-keys across the bottom of the screen. IIRC, one offers a failsafe video option. Use that and see if you get further. The other thing to try is to edit the boot entry and remove the 'quiet' option at the end - this will hopefully display a more-helpful error message than a blank screen! Let us know if you need help with how to do that... When i get to the GRUB screen i can't seem to see any F-keys listed at the bottom. All i have is the following; Use the (up arrow) and (down arrow) keys to select which entry is highlighted. Press enter to boot the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a command line. I am not sure what to do with this, i am guessing that possibility of editing command lines is the one you were referring to in terms of the 'quiet' option. I have no idea how to do this so if you think it would be useful, some instructions would be great. I'm getting confused with an older live disk then! Yes, this is the editing bit I referred to. Move to the 'Try Ubuntu...' option but press 'e' instead of 'Enter'. This changes to a different screen which displays several lines and similar e/c/Enter options at the bottom. Move to the line that starts 'linux' and press 'e' again. Delete the word(s) 'quiet' and/or 'splash' from the end of the line, then press Enter several times until your machine starts booting (I think it's 3 times, but I'm not sure). Hopefully, your machine will then boot successfully! If it fails, hopefully it will display an error about what caused the failure... There are also the ACPI/APCI/etc. options that might be causing the boot failure. There are 5-10 different options you can add instead of the 'quiet splash' that disable various checks that could be causing the boot to hang. But that will depend on what you see when you try my suggestion. [snip] If you don't have more than 4Gb of RAM on the new laptop, you won't get much (any?) benefit running the 64-bit version. Even if you have more than 4Gb of RAM, the installer will install a special PAE kernel that will use the extra RAM - each process will be limited however. Other than that, the 32-bit version will do what most people need, even on 64-bit hardware. At the moment i have 4GB of RAM installed, but space for another 4GB, which i will likely buy in time. So i would like, at some stage, to get the 64 bit version working even if i have to install the 32 bit for the next while - until video driver issues get sorted. Again, having more than 4GB of RAM is not going to force you to use the 64-bit version. You can use all the RAM you have by switching to the PAE kernel after upgrading the memory, if the installer doesn't put that on for you now. I don't think it's necessarily the fact that video drivers are not working on the 64-bit version, it's more likely that the installer hasn't picked the right one. Maybe you could check which driver the 32-bit version uses, and force the 64-bit one to use the same... but I'm getting out of my depth about how to actually accomplish that! [snip] Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Two questions: 64bit live USB problem and dual boot with recovery partition
Neil, thanks again. [snip] Yes, this is the editing bit I referred to. Move to the 'Try Ubuntu...' option but press 'e' instead of 'Enter'. This changes to a different screen which displays several lines and similar e/c/Enter options at the bottom. Move to the line that starts 'linux' and press 'e' again. Delete the word(s) 'quiet' and/or 'splash' from the end of the line, then press Enter several times until your machine starts booting (I think it's 3 times, but I'm not sure). Hopefully, your machine will then boot successfully! If it fails, hopefully it will display an error about what caused the failure... There are also the ACPI/APCI/etc. options that might be causing the boot failure. There are 5-10 different options you can add instead of the 'quiet splash' that disable various checks that could be causing the boot to hang. But that will depend on what you see when you try my suggestion. After hitting 'e' at the original GRUB screen, i get a screen with the following at the bottom: Minimum Emacs - like screen editing is supported. TAB lists completions. Press Ctrl-x or F10 to boot, Ctrl-c or F2 for a command line or ESC to discard edits and return to the GRUB menu. This screen has nothing about editing etc. like there was on the first GRUB menu. On this screen i am however, able to edit the lines without hitting 'e'. So i remove the words quiet splash from the end of the line beginning linux. I am, however, not sure whether to get rid of the two dashes (--) which come after splash. [edit: it doesn't make a difference if i do] Hitting return after this just seems to allow me to edit the text - creating new lines. So i presume i should hit Ctrl-x or F10 to boot with the changes i have made. When i do this i get the blank screen again. No error message. Again, having more than 4GB of RAM is not going to force you to use the 64-bit version. You can use all the RAM you have by switching to the PAE kernel after upgrading the memory, if the installer doesn't put that on for you now. This is seeming like a significantly easier option at the moment. So if i don't work this out, i'll just go with this. I don't think it's necessarily the fact that video drivers are not working on the 64-bit version, it's more likely that the installer hasn't picked the right one. Maybe you could check which driver the 32-bit version uses, and force the 64-bit one to use the same... but I'm getting out of my depth about how to actually accomplish that! If this is going to be tricky then i might just go with PAE kernel. To Dave: I had the same issue with the live cd on 64 bit, the only way I could get it on was to start with a 10.04 disk and upgrade. It did go without issue and if you really need to get it on your machine asap perhaps this is the best route? Possibly this is the best option. I don't need this on my machine now, i would just like it to be... I think i might just try and post a bug and then install the 32 bit version, use PAE kernel and then, if nothing else comes up, try the upgrading route. I am however still open to ideas if people have any. j On 16 August 2011 16:24, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 16.08.11 15:15, James Morrissey wrote: Hi Neil, Thanks for the response. Wanting to repartition my HDD (using GParted) so that i can dual boot, i 'Try Ubuntu without Installing', at which point the screen goes blank and nothing happens. I am then forced into a hard reboot. I get the exact same result when i 'Check the disk'. That sounds like a video driver issue. I think when the menu is displayed it mentions pressing different F-keys across the bottom of the screen. IIRC, one offers a failsafe video option. Use that and see if you get further. The other thing to try is to edit the boot entry and remove the 'quiet' option at the end - this will hopefully display a more-helpful error message than a blank screen! Let us know if you need help with how to do that... When i get to the GRUB screen i can't seem to see any F-keys listed at the bottom. All i have is the following; Use the (up arrow) and (down arrow) keys to select which entry is highlighted. Press enter to boot the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting or 'c' for a command line. I am not sure what to do with this, i am guessing that possibility of editing command lines is the one you were referring to in terms of the 'quiet' option. I have no idea how to do this so if you think it would be useful, some instructions would be great. I'm getting confused with an older live disk then! Yes, this is the editing bit I referred to. Move to the 'Try Ubuntu...' option but press 'e' instead of 'Enter'. This changes to a different screen which displays several lines and similar e/c/Enter options at the bottom. Move to the line that starts 'linux' and press 'e' again. Delete the word(s) 'quiet' and/or 'splash' from the end of the line, then press Enter
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval interview with the LoCo Council tonight, 9PM
10 minutes or so. . . http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-meeting please do join in and show your support when they ask who is from the UK Alan. -- The Open Learning Centre is rebranding, find out about our new name and look at http://libertus.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval interview with the LoCo Council tonight, 9PM
On 16/08/11 20:51, Alan Bell wrote: 10 minutes or so. . . http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-meeting please do join in and show your support when they ask who is from the UK Alan. Just joined at 9.26pm uk local time am I too late? -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] we got reapproved \o/
popey #startmeeting 20:00 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:00 meetingology Meeting started Tue Aug 16 20:00:17 2011 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 20:00 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:00 meetingology Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. 20:00 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:00 popey ping czajkowski itnet7 huats leogg paultag 20:00 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:00 popey Welcome to the LoCo Council Meeting, our agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda 20:00 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:00 leogg hello :) 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 AlanBell o/ 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 czajkowski Aloha 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 scott_ev howdie 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 toddc hello 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 itnet7 Hey there! 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 Dazed_75 Hiya 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 popey paultag explained he may not be around and has already given us his votes via email. So when the time comes we'll be okay there. 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 popey huats: you about? 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 triunity Mornin 20:01 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:01 bj0 alo 20:02 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:02 fuzzyvader hey 20:02 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:02 Yorokobi Good afternoon, everyone. 20:02 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:02 scott_ev mhelmke ping 20:02 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:02 czajkowski huats: did say he would be here 20:02 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:02 popey give him just a minute or two 20:03 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:03 czajkowski yup 20:03 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:03 jtatum \o 20:03 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:03 huats I am here 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 czajkowski :) 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 popey \o/ 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 huats sorry for the late arrival 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 huats :) 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 popey np 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 popey right, we'll begin then. 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 popey #topic Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval. 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval. meetingology TOPIC: Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval. 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 popey AlanBell: you about? ;) 20:04 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:04 AlanBell I am, good evening all 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 popey Now, to be clear, myself and czajkowski wont take part in the vote on UK because we're both in the team 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 AlanBell https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 popey but huats itnet7 and paultag will vote 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 popey is anyone here to support the UK team re-approval application? 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 AlanBell o/ 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 brobostigon o/ 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 danfish o/ 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 StevenR o/ 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth reidrac o/ 20:05 http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:05 popey itnet7 / huats do you have any questions or comments for AlanBell
Re: [ubuntu-uk] we got reapproved \o/
ick, sorry about the unreadable logs, try this http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:00 Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] we got reapproved \o/
Congratulations to all the hard workers and Thank you. Sorry I couldn't be there as I'm currently in the States and have only just finished work. Go UK Loco! cheers -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] we got reapproved \o/
hiyas guys, congrats on the re-approval :) Next time you have a meet near Manchester I'll be there! Just to re-state, if there any thing I can do help ubuntu-uk please just ping me! Regards, Phill. On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: ick, sorry about the unreadable logs, try this http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/**2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.**html#t20:00http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/16/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:00 Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ukhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UKTeam/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
