Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source VOIP
On 18/10/11 14:42, Tim Dobson wrote: I used to work for a gradwell reseller and they definitely have an unlimited UK landlines package. Call them up, speak to a salesdroid and get him to sort you out... ideally get him to mail you some options. :) I'm coming back on a now somewhat extinct thread because the original posting inspired me to do some research. Truphone seems to offer an excellent service and I've never met a more helpful e-mail support service. But the dedicated Java-based client failed to work for me under Ubuntu. Truphone will not reveal SIP settings, so you are stuck with their proprietary apps. VoipALot - http://www.voipalot.com seems to have great possibilities but as I couldn't find a way of testing before putting $10 on the account, I gave up with that one. VoipStunt - http://www.voipstunt.com/en/ looks even better and offers free testing. But I have not managed to get it to allow me to sign up. I'd love to know how you did it if anyone gets it to work! CallCentric - http://www.callcentric.com/ Works OK for me. It gives free testing, and a variety of different tariff options including a PAYG arrangement which suits me. The PAYG accepts topups of as little as $5 so it doesn't cost the earth to check it out. It also automatically gives you a free +1 777 number which becomes your username. Call rates seem on a par with Skype - or maybe a bit higher. As SipGate and Gradwell don't offer PAYG, I haven't really looked at them. It's horses for courses. SoftPhones: I tried and failed with Ekiga. ZoiPer is recommended by CallCentric and worked well when I installed it, but it crashed and burned after a while, and unless I re-install, I can't use it. As it seems to be deprecated in recent Ubuntu releases, I gave up on it. Twinkle works tolerably well. Any further thoughts/suggestions are welcome. Currently I use Skype when I'm out of the country, but I'd like to have a backup, and CallCentric sounds promising. And the US phone-number is kinda cool. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source VOIP
On 25/10/11 09:40, Barry Drake wrote: On 18/10/11 14:42, Tim Dobson wrote: snip / SoftPhones: I tried and failed with Ekiga. ZoiPer is recommended by CallCentric and worked well when I installed it, but it crashed and burned after a while, and unless I re-install, I can't use it. As it seems to be deprecated in recent Ubuntu releases, I gave up on it. Twinkle works tolerably well. The most reliable softphone I have found/use on Ubuntu is SFLphone: http://sflphone.org/ -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - Rugby World Cup site uses MS Silverlight for videos
Wait, run me through on this. WHY were the entire Linux community (20,000,000 people) unable to view??? Nick -- -Original Message- From: bod...@googlemail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:26:21 To: Ubuntu-Ukubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: bod...@googlemail.com, UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - Rugby World Cup site uses MS Silverlight for videos You could say that the entire linux community was unable to view - is that figure in the millions or hudred thousands? Bodsda --Original Message-- From: Colin Law Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com To: Ubuntu-Uk ReplyTo: Ubuntu-Uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - Rugby World Cup site uses MS Silverlight for videos Sent: 23 Oct 2011 13:55 On 23 October 2011 13:51, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 23 October 2011 13:47, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: I've already complained - anyone else like to? http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/contact.html Given Microsoft are a sponsor they're hardly likely to choose anything else :( At least if we complain then the IRB will realise that they are causing problems to some. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source VOIP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/10/11 10:08, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 25/10/11 09:40, Barry Drake wrote: On 18/10/11 14:42, Tim Dobson wrote: snip / SoftPhones: I tried and failed with Ekiga. ZoiPer is recommended by CallCentric and worked well when I installed it, but it crashed and burned after a while, and unless I re-install, I can't use it. As it seems to be deprecated in recent Ubuntu releases, I gave up on it. Twinkle works tolerably well. The most reliable softphone I have found/use on Ubuntu is SFLphone: http://sflphone.org/ I use telepathy-sofiasip with empathy. THe only issue I have is having to open the the addition features everytime to get the dialpad, I minor grievance, but as it tool it works fine. - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6mlTAACgkQT5xqyT+h3OjVGQCfQY7ns4dNMbHPYQ4zYYy1ViF+ WSwAoJCcrpwzYSodCV3uI4aOLIrX9HVs =5dSq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source VOIP
On 25/10/11 10:08, Alan Lord (News) wrote: The most reliable softphone I have found/use on Ubuntu is SFLphone: http://sflphone.org/ That is fantastic! It installed and configured far more easily than any of the others I'd tried. Unfortunately I could only get it to install from the binaries under 10.04. I'm using 10.10 now, and there isn't an Oneiric branch in the repo offered. The binaries for Natty have unmet dependencies under 10.10 unfortunately so I might have to wait until sflphone get around to supporting Oneiric. I've marked the page and will keep looking. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK
Has anybody got info on Linux courses running in the UK? If so, could they share it, please? I'm currently going through the University websites and searching for Linux courses. My base is South Wales. UWCN (University of Wales, Newport) is the closest Uni to myself. What I want is to become Linux Certified - initially the LPIC-1 is the certification I need by the look of it. There is an Open University beginner's course. This might be a good start to getting qualified but the next enrolment is Oct 2010 according to the webpage. I'm looking at trying to find either distance learning, online learning, flexible learning or plain old evening classes or whatever it takes. Cheers, Steve R. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source VOIP
On 25/10/11 09:40, Barry Drake wrote: On 18/10/11 14:42, Tim Dobson wrote: I used to work for a gradwell reseller and they definitely have an unlimited UK landlines package. Call them up, speak to a salesdroid and get him to sort you out... ideally get him to mail you some options. :) I'm coming back on a now somewhat extinct thread because the original posting inspired me to do some research. Truphone seems to offer an excellent service and I've never met a more helpful e-mail support service. But the dedicated Java-based client failed to work for me under Ubuntu. Truphone will not reveal SIP settings, so you are stuck with their proprietary apps. VoipALot - http://www.voipalot.com seems to have great possibilities but as I couldn't find a way of testing before putting $10 on the account, I gave up with that one. VoipStunt - http://www.voipstunt.com/en/ looks even better and offers free testing. But I have not managed to get it to allow me to sign up. I'd love to know how you did it if anyone gets it to work! CallCentric - http://www.callcentric.com/ Works OK for me. It gives free testing, and a variety of different tariff options including a PAYG arrangement which suits me. The PAYG accepts topups of as little as $5 so it doesn't cost the earth to check it out. It also automatically gives you a free +1 777 number which becomes your username. Call rates seem on a par with Skype - or maybe a bit higher. As SipGate and Gradwell don't offer PAYG, I haven't really looked at them. It's horses for courses. SoftPhones: I tried and failed with Ekiga. ZoiPer is recommended by CallCentric and worked well when I installed it, but it crashed and burned after a while, and unless I re-install, I can't use it. As it seems to be deprecated in recent Ubuntu releases, I gave up on it. Twinkle works tolerably well. Any further thoughts/suggestions are welcome. Currently I use Skype when I'm out of the country, but I'd like to have a backup, and CallCentric sounds promising. And the US phone-number is kinda cool. Jitsi? http://jitsi.org/ Secure video calls, conferencing, chat, desktop sharing, file transfer, support for your favorite OS, and IM network. All this, and more, in Jitsi - the most complete and advanced open source communicator. (not sure if 'open source' here means libre ? ) I have not had time to try it, it has had lots of updates -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source VOIP
On 25/10/11 13:16, alan c wrote: itsi? http://jitsi.org/ Secure video calls, conferencing, chat, desktop sharing, file transfer, support for your favorite OS, and IM network. All this, and more, in Jitsi - the most complete and advanced open source communicator. (not sure if 'open source' here means libre ? ) I have not had time to try it, it has had lots of updates 'Jitsi is distributed under the terms of the LGPL' The main advantage I can see with it, if it works ok, is that is cross platform -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK
On 25/10/11 13:10, Steven Roberts wrote: Has anybody got info on Linux courses running in the UK? If so, could they share it, please? I'm currently going through the University websites and searching for Linux courses. My base is South Wales. UWCN (University of Wales, Newport) is the closest Uni to myself. What I want is to become Linux Certified - initially the LPIC-1 is the certification I need by the look of it. There is an Open University beginner's course. This might be a good start to getting qualified but the next enrolment is Oct 2010 according to the http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm Says May 2012 for the next beginners' course . . . . . ? webpage. I'm looking at trying to find either distance learning, online learning, flexible learning or plain old evening classes or whatever it takes. Cheers, Steve R. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - Rugby World Cup site uses MS Silverlight for videos
On 25 October 2011 11:51, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: Wait, run me through on this. WHY were the entire Linux community (20,000,000 people) unable to view??? Because the website says it requires Silverlight and when you follow the links to install, it says it is only available for Windows and Mac. Colin Nick -- -Original Message- From: bod...@googlemail.com Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 13:26:21 To: Ubuntu-Ukubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Reply-To: bod...@googlemail.com, UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - Rugby World Cup site uses MS Silverlight for videos You could say that the entire linux community was unable to view - is that figure in the millions or hudred thousands? Bodsda --Original Message-- From: Colin Law Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com To: Ubuntu-Uk ReplyTo: Ubuntu-Uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - Rugby World Cup site uses MS Silverlight for videos Sent: 23 Oct 2011 13:55 On 23 October 2011 13:51, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 23 October 2011 13:47, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: I've already complained - anyone else like to? http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/contact.html Given Microsoft are a sponsor they're hardly likely to choose anything else :( At least if we complain then the IRB will realise that they are causing problems to some. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- gplus.to/clanlaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK
On 25/10/11 13:35, MS wrote:Hello Steve, I would recommend the Ubuntu Professional Course available from Ubuntu's own Training Team. Its half the price of the O.U Course and is extensive, with something like 16 modules. Its an ideal preparation for the more extensive Ubuntu Server Course. Although it requires the discipline of self-study. My own motivation for the doing this is to build an openstreet map server, with openstreet map being built on the Ubuntu Server. Hope this helps, John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source VOIP
On 25/10/11 13:16, alan c wrote: Jitsi? http://jitsi.org/ Secure video calls, conferencing, chat, desktop sharing, file transfer, support for your favorite OS, and IM network. All this, and more, in Jitsi - the most complete and advanced open source communicator. (not sure if 'open source' here means libre ? ) I have not had time to try it, it has had lots of updates That looks good, but it is now one of three that I've tried that I can't configure the sound to work. The mike works, and I can hear the dial out tones, but not audio gets in from the line when it connects a call. So for now, I'm using Twinkle and getting good results. I'll swap to sftphone when I can use it on Oneiric. I've posted a message to the sftphone site and received a reply. I'll help if they want. Regards,Barry. -- Barry Drake is a member of the the Ubuntu Advertising team. http://ubuntuadverts.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK
On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:47 +0100, john beddard wrote: On 25/10/11 13:35, MS wrote:Hello Steve, I would recommend the Ubuntu Professional Course available from Ubuntu's own Training Team. Its half the price of the O.U Course and is extensive, with something like 16 modules. Its an ideal preparation for the more extensive Ubuntu Server Course. Although it requires the discipline of self-study. My own motivation for the doing this is to build an openstreet map server, with openstreet map being built on the Ubuntu Server. Hope this helps, John John, What competence level does the Ubuntu Professional Course start at? Barry T -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK
On 25/10/11 19:26, Barry Titterton wrote: On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 16:47 +0100, john beddard wrote: On 25/10/11 13:35, MS wrote:Hello Steve, I would recommend the Ubuntu Professional Course available from Ubuntu's own Training Team. Its half the price of the O.U Course and is extensive, with something like 16 modules. Its an ideal preparation for the more extensive Ubuntu Server Course. Although it requires the discipline of self-study. My own motivation for the doing this is to build an openstreet map server, with openstreet map being built on the Ubuntu Server. Hope this helps, John John, What competence level does the Ubuntu Professional Course start at? Barry T Hi Barry, I would say that it's a good introductory course to using the command line within different structured areas of Ubuntu : https://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=533 Any experience using command line is useful. It is aimed at Sys Admins. After a while the knowledge needed is extensive, so is the knowledge gained : there is no end to the learning process. With a background in networks, I wanted a structured course in order to gain experience with Linux/Unix command line, which is extensive. This course has really got me into Ubuntu. I found the book 'Ubuntu Linux' by Chris Nergus and Francois Caen to be useful in broadening and sometimes deepening the course. The Ubuntu Prof Course has more command line than the Linux equivalent LPIC-1 and is less explanatory. The two are now considered separate qualifications. Although the Ubuntu Prof Course really needs to be done in the context of providing the basis for the Server and Cloud Computing Courses. Each module ends with a quiz and the course is just completed : unless there is a surprise exam waiting for me ! The course is self-paced with a maximum of one year to access the materials on-line. One surprising aspect of the course was that i was also able to quickly understand the Windows file and command system. My hope is that the Server and Cloud Courses come up to the professional level of Cisco Certification Courses. It would be good to build learning groups around the Ubuntu Prof Course. Hope This Helps ! John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
