[ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

2012-02-07 Thread scoundrel50a

Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

2012-02-07 Thread J Fernyhough
On 7 February 2012 08:58, scoundrel50a scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?

 http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011


Compiz isn't dead: https://code.launchpad.net/compiz-core

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

2012-02-07 Thread Alan Pope

On 07/02/12 08:58, scoundrel50a wrote:

Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011



Ubuntu 12.04 will ship with Compiz in April. That will be supported for 
5 years on the desktop. Compiz is a core component of Unity, in fact 
Unity is implemented as a Compiz plugin.


Also note Canonical employs Sam Spilsbury who works on Compiz.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home networks, running different devices, OSes and backing up

2012-02-07 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-02-04 09:39, Byte Soup wrote:
 Id like to hear opinions, experience and advice from those of you who have
 a home network with multiple devices from iPods to PCs, and what you do to
 back them up and centralise the data but also make the data available in
 places where you need it.

I use BackupPC to backup everything. Just run SSHd or Samba on everything,
and configure it to back them up. I back up my Linux PCs from / down,
excepting a few directories that are dynamic or temporary or caches. I back
up my Android devices by installing QuickSSHd and backing up /data,
/sdcard, and /system.

 Also when it comes to backing up, lets say you have a server that runs
 weekly backups of devices on the network, how do you avoid it backing up
 and overwriting a file if a user has infected some files on one of the
 devices with malware? If you have incremental backups, how much more space
 will you need?

With BackupPC, which uses deduplication and compression, it keeps only the
changes. Other incrementals reference the last full. Even the fulls are
pooled so that space is saved. I have found the savings are about 10:1 over
raw copies of the data. For instance, from my home server:

Pool is 149.46GB comprising 1262847 files and 4369 directories (as of
2012-02-07 12:07).

There are 11 hosts that have been backed up, for a total of:

162 full backups of total size 1909.77GB (prior to pooling and compression)
114 incr backups of total size 42.40GB (prior to pooling and compression)

Regards,
Tyler

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

2012-02-07 Thread scoundrel50a
Anybody know why Ubuntu seems to be the only one using Compiz now, and 
why all the other distros have dropped it, and what will they use instead?




On 07/02/2012 10:06, Alan Pope wrote:

On 07/02/12 08:58, scoundrel50a wrote:

Anybody seen this, will it be coming to Ubuntu soon?

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/rip-compiz/3402?tag=nl.e011



Ubuntu 12.04 will ship with Compiz in April. That will be supported 
for 5 years on the desktop. Compiz is a core component of Unity, in 
fact Unity is implemented as a Compiz plugin.


Also note Canonical employs Sam Spilsbury who works on Compiz.

Cheers,
Al.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

2012-02-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 7 February 2012 12:48, scoundrel50a scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anybody know why Ubuntu seems to be the only one using Compiz now, and why
 all the other distros have dropped it, and what will they use instead?





As the article says, many distros have turned to Mutter. As Alan said,
Unity is a Compiz plugin, which is why Ubuntu is essentially committed to
it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

2012-02-07 Thread James Morrissey
I think its a mix of this development problems at Compiz and the
resultant instability/ability to break your system.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/to-sam-the-face-behind-the-wobbly-window/

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/should-ccsm-be-purged-from-the-ubuntu-repos/

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On 7 February 2012 13:02, Simon Greenwood sfgreenw...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 7 February 2012 12:48, scoundrel50a scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anybody know why Ubuntu seems to be the only one using Compiz now, and why
 all the other distros have dropped it, and what will they use instead?





 As the article says, many distros have turned to Mutter. As Alan said, Unity
 is a Compiz plugin, which is why Ubuntu is essentially committed to it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz kicks the bucket.........

2012-02-07 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 7 February 2012 13:05, James Morrissey morrissey.jam...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think its a mix of this development problems at Compiz and the
 resultant instability/ability to break your system.


 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/to-sam-the-face-behind-the-wobbly-window/


 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/should-ccsm-be-purged-from-the-ubuntu-repos/


I have to agree with this: on my desktop, 11.10 64-bit, 1Gb Nvidia card,
compiz takes 20-30% of CPU at all times. This is actually an improvement on
the initial release when it would regularily spin up to 60-70%.

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