[ubuntu-uk] Open standards policy .....

2012-04-20 Thread Barry Drake
Below is an e-mail that I have sent to 
openstanda...@digital.cabinet-office.gov.uk with a copy to Francis Maude 
MP at psfrancisma...@cabinet-office.gsi.gov.uk  I have also written to 
my local MP.  Just a thought but some of you might want to do something 
similar.


Dear Sirs,  I have been very concerned for some time about this issue
and did manage to attend one of the consultation sessions two years
ago.  My concern is currently over the heavy handed - almost bullying -
approach that seems to be employed by large commercial interests.  In
particular Microsoft who seem to be using closed-standards to protect their
interests and limit users to their software.  An example of this is in the way 
in
which ITC in schools has degenerated into teaching of the use of
Microsoft's own products and no other.

If the following is to be believed, then I think we have great cause for
concern about this issue.  Please see:
http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2012/04/how-microsoft-lobbied-against-true-open-standards-i/index.htm#comment-500786703
and also:
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2012/04/proprietary-lobby-triumphs-in.html

Kind regards,Barry.

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and Asus

2012-04-20 Thread Norman Silverstone
Has anyone any experience or knowledge about the Asus P8H61-M
motherboard, please. Thank you in advance.

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open standards policy .....

2012-04-20 Thread alan c
On 20/04/12 10:59, Barry Drake wrote:
 Below is an e-mail that I have sent to 
 openstanda...@digital.cabinet-office.gov.uk with a copy to Francis Maude 
 MP at psfrancisma...@cabinet-office.gsi.gov.uk  I have also written to 
 my local MP.  Just a thought but some of you might want to do something 
 similar.
 
 Dear Sirs,  I have been very concerned for some time about this issue
 and did manage to attend one of the consultation sessions two years
 ago.  My concern is currently over the heavy handed - almost bullying -
 approach that seems to be employed by large commercial interests.  In
 particular Microsoft who seem to be using closed-standards to protect their
 interests and limit users to their software.  An example of this is in the 
 way in
 which ITC in schools has degenerated into teaching of the use of
 Microsoft's own products and no other.
 
 If the following is to be believed, then I think we have great cause for
 concern about this issue.  Please see:
 http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2012/04/how-microsoft-lobbied-against-true-open-standards-i/index.htm#comment-500786703
 and also:
 http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/public-sector/2012/04/proprietary-lobby-triumphs-in.html
 
 Kind regards,Barry.
 

Thanks Barry
Also of interest is a new item from Glyn Moody

Does Microsoft Office Lock-in Cost the UK Government £500 Million?
http://blogs.computerworlduk.com/open-enterprise/2012/04/does-microsoft-office-lock-in-cost-the-uk-government-500-million/index.htm

Shortened link:
http://bit.ly/JrtxdL

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and Asus

2012-04-20 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 20 April 2012 12:12, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote:

 Has anyone any experience or knowledge about the Asus P8H61-M
 motherboard, please. Thank you in advance.


Hello -

If you Google 'Ubuntu Asus P8H61-M' you will get some useful results, the
first being that it's an EFI board so it will probably only work with a 64
bit distribution although it doesn't seem very promising from that post.
Asus themselves have passed it for Ubuntu 10.10.

If you're putting together a desktop machine it may be better to reverse
the process and find a motherboard that will work with Linux, such as in
the recommended hardware list here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware#Motherboards

My desktop has a Gigabyte motherboard although I would have to nip out to
the garage to find the exact model and it's run 11.10 64 bit with no
problems since October.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12.04 CD pre-orders

2012-04-20 Thread Bill Baker
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 20:19 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
 On 14/04/12 16:31, Bill Baker wrote:
 
  Alan,
  would it be accwptable to ask for one purely on the basis that when
  saying you really ought to try this to those I'm trying to convert -
  it is more convincing /  professional to show a cd from a professonal
  covered CD wrapper?  After all - many years ago - that's how I got here.
  It worked for me - and still works for others - break the barrier
  convince of the goodness!
 
  If an acceptable reason for nicking one our copies I will gladly spend
  the postage etc.
 
 
  Regards,
  Bill B. [SuperEngineer]
 
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 absolutely fine, I am more than happy to stuff an envelope with as many 
 as will fit for you to hand out. Anyone who has an organized means to 
 hand out lots of them can ask for a box of 75 (folk who do computer 
 fairs, have a shop or work in a university or whatever, just tell me how 
 you are going to get them distributed and you can have them)
 
 Alan.
 
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Alan,

So there I was prepping send  reply envelopes... when - whoops, don't
even have an address to send to! [feel free to reply to my own email
with pertinent address].

doh!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and Asus

2012-04-20 Thread Norman Silverstone


 Has anyone any experience or knowledge about the Asus P8H61-M
 motherboard, please. Thank you in advance.
 

 If you Google 'Ubuntu Asus P8H61-M' you will get some useful results,
 the first being that it's an EFI board so it will probably only work
 with a 64 bit distribution although it doesn't seem very promising
 from that post. Asus themselves have passed it for Ubuntu 10.10.
 
 Snip 

Surely the running of 64 bit distributions is a function of the CPU not
the motherboard.

Norman



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and Asus

2012-04-20 Thread Michael Daniels



 From: nor...@littletank.org
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:10:43 +0100
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and Asus
 
 
 
  Has anyone any experience or knowledge about the Asus P8H61-M
  motherboard, please. Thank you in advance.
  
 
  If you Google 'Ubuntu Asus P8H61-M' you will get some useful results,
  the first being that it's an EFI board so it will probably only work
  with a 64 bit distribution although it doesn't seem very promising
  from that post. Asus themselves have passed it for Ubuntu 10.10.
  
  Snip 
 
 Surely the running of 64 bit distributions is a function of the CPU not
 the motherboard.
 
 Norman
 and the CPU is a motherboard component
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and Asus

2012-04-20 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 20 April 2012 17:10, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote:



  Has anyone any experience or knowledge about the Asus P8H61-M
  motherboard, please. Thank you in advance.
 

  If you Google 'Ubuntu Asus P8H61-M' you will get some useful results,
  the first being that it's an EFI board so it will probably only work
  with a 64 bit distribution although it doesn't seem very promising
  from that post. Asus themselves have passed it for Ubuntu 10.10.
 
  Snip 

 Surely the running of 64 bit distributions is a function of the CPU not
 the motherboard.


 The issue described relates to (U)EFI, which is the point at which the OS
touches the motherboard (to put it simply). In this context I'm just
pointing out what has been said about the motherboard you asked about.

Michael also makes the point that the CPU is a consideration as well and
you would have to make a decision based on what CPUs are compatible with
the motherboard and how they're both going to work with the OS.

I'd be more inclined to look at a barebones machine than individual parts
these days as recent experience has shown me that putting components
together is a minefield - the choice of power source equally dictates the
capabilities of the components, and if you're at the point where the
chassis works, adding the rest of the components gets a lot easier.

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