Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good general book on Ubuntu/Linux?

2012-10-03 Thread paul sutton
On 03/10/12 15:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> I'm a reasonable user of Ubuntu - both on my netbook and dual-booting
> with Windows 7 on my main laptop.
> I'm looking for a book on either Ubuntu or Linux in general in the
> "Windows inside out" type of format, i.e. from simple through to
> fairly technical, suitable for a general user - me!
> I'm slightly concerned about forking out £34 for the current Ubuntu
> 12.04 bible published by Sams  as the interface could possibly change
> again in 14.04!
> Can anyone suggest a good general book, or should I buy a general
> Linux book and if so what would be the recommendations for that, or
> should I just look for on-line information, and if so where's the best
> place to look for the most topics in one place? (I do like big books!)

>
> Cheers
>
> Gordon

try http://ubuntu-manual.org/ and you can buy very cheap from lulu.com
:) hope this helps

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] need help " installation aptana on Ubuntu 12.04"

2012-10-03 Thread Colin Law
On 3 October 2012 21:47, Marc Stephan Nkouly  wrote:
> am a complete beginner on Computer and Ubuntu.
> i wish to study web development but the difficulty am facing for the moment
> is the installation of APTANA STUDIO on UBUNTU 12.04

google for
install aptana ubuntu
and the first hit is
http://www.samclarke.com/2012/04/how-to-install-aptana-studio-3-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin/

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good general book on Ubuntu/Linux?

2012-10-03 Thread Tony Pursell
Is the Ubuntu Manual http://ubuntu-manual.org/ too basic for you?

On 3 October 2012 15:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

>  I'm a reasonable user of Ubuntu - both on my netbook and dual-booting
> with Windows 7 on my main laptop.
> I'm looking for a book on either Ubuntu or Linux in general in the
> "Windows inside out" type of format, i.e. from simple through to fairly
> technical, suitable for a general user - me!
> I'm slightly concerned about forking out £34 for the current Ubuntu 12.04
> bible published by Sams  as the interface could possibly change again in
> 14.04!
> Can anyone suggest a good general book, or should I buy a general Linux
> book and if so what would be the recommendations for that, or should I just
> look for on-line information, and if so where's the best place to look
> for the most topics in one place? (I do like big books!)
>
> Cheers
>
> Gordon
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> Say No to OOXML http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9594#mpart8
> I only accept odf or pdf documents by email
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Quantal Quetzal takes flight - the London release party for Ubuntu 12.10

2012-10-03 Thread Liam Proven
On 3 October 2012 16:55, Alan Bell  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> after a bit of to-ing and fro-ing we have settled on a venue for the London
> release party for 12.10, it will be at the George Inn, London's last
> galleried coaching in, as visited by Charles Dickens (dunno how exclusive
> that is, anyone know if he was into pub crawls?)
>
> The date will be the 18th of October, which is just over a couple of weeks
> away and as usual we will be joined by the team from Canonical who will no
> doubt be rather gasping for some refreshment after the last minute stress of
> the release.
>
> details and sign up sheet here (not that you have to sign up or anything,
> you can just turn up)
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2006/detail/
>
> I will try and sort out name badges somehow, that would appear to be a good
> thing to do. In fact yes, lets do that. For anyone who clicks the register
> button on the sign up page there will be a badge with your name on it
> waiting for you - I might include IRC nicks if they are on your launchpad
> page.
>
> see you there o/

Oh cool. The George is lovely, unlike Bar Soho. ;-)

Although it must be said, that was a great night...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good general book on Ubuntu/Linux?

2012-10-03 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-10-03 15:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> I'm looking for a book on either Ubuntu or Linux in general in the "Windows
> inside out" type of format, i.e. from simple through to fairly technical,
> suitable for a general user - me!

This does not fit your use case, and I do not recommend you read it. The
others are right in saying that print is hopelessly unable to stay in touch
with the pace of Linux development.

However, this book is so good that I have to throw it out there. If you
want to understand the basics of Unix (Linux included), there is the UNIX
and Linux System Administration Handbook (4th Edition).

http://www.amazon.com/UNIX-Linux-System-Administration-Handbook/dp/0131480057

That's for people who always wanted to know about user permissions, how the
filesystem works, etc. Everything down to system call programming and up to
the graphical environment. This stuff changes over time, but not so much
that the book gets out of date.

It's also really funny, especially the war stories.

Regards,
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[ubuntu-uk] The Quantal Quetzal takes flight - the London release party for Ubuntu 12.10

2012-10-03 Thread Alan Bell

Hi all,

after a bit of to-ing and fro-ing we have settled on a venue for the 
London release party for 12.10, it will be at the George Inn, London's 
last galleried coaching in, as visited by Charles Dickens (dunno how 
exclusive that is, anyone know if he was into pub crawls?)


The date will be the 18th of October, which is just over a couple of 
weeks away and as usual we will be joined by the team from Canonical who 
will no doubt be rather gasping for some refreshment after the last 
minute stress of the release.


details and sign up sheet here (not that you have to sign up or 
anything, you can just turn up)

http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2006/detail/

I will try and sort out name badges somehow, that would appear to be a 
good thing to do. In fact yes, lets do that. For anyone who clicks the 
register button on the sign up page there will be a badge with your name 
on it waiting for you - I might include IRC nicks if they are on your 
launchpad page.


see you there o/

Alan.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good general book on Ubuntu/Linux?

2012-10-03 Thread Avi Greenbury
Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>I'm a reasonable user of Ubuntu - both on my netbook and dual-booting
>with Windows 7 on my main laptop.
>I'm looking for a book on either Ubuntu or Linux in general in the
>"Windows inside out" type of format, i.e. from simple through to fairly
>technical, suitable for a general user - me!

What sort of use are you looking to be more proficient in? In general,
there's a pretty hefty divide between the server and the desktop, and
each of these is split further (webservers, mailserver, enterprise
desktops, kiosk desktops etc.).

It's worth bearing in mind, though, that in the time it takes to write
a reasonable book Ubuntu's generally put out at least one or two
releases.

>I'm slightly concerned about forking out £34 for the current Ubuntu
>12.04 bible published by Sams  as the interface could possibly change
>again in 14.04!

Generally, a good book on the topic will be relatively user-interface
agnostic, since that's just an interface to the interesting bits and
pieces you'll be twiddling. Those change incredibly slowly.

>Can anyone suggest a good general book, or should I buy a general Linux
>book and if so what would be the recommendations for that, or should I
>just look for on-line information, and if so where's the best place to
>look for the most topics in one place? (I do like big books!)

Linux distributions are split into three camps, generally:

- Red Hat derived ones including RHEL, CentOS, Fedora, Scientific
- Debian derived ones like Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Xandros, DSL
- Others that are doing their own thing, like Arch, Gentoo, Slackware,
  SuSE.

Historically, books assumed that by 'Linux' one meant 'Red Hat' and so
ostensibly generic Linux books focussed on that. More recently more
and more are Ubuntuy, but generally anything Debian-flavoured will be
a pretty good match for Ubuntu. As for a *good* one of these, that
depends on what it is that you're looking to learn :) Most that cover
the UI will be at least a little bit out of date before they are
released, though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good general book on Ubuntu/Linux?

2012-10-03 Thread Dave Morley
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On 03/10/12 15:24, Liam Proven wrote:
> On 3 October 2012 16:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker 
> wrote:
>> I'm a reasonable user of Ubuntu - both on my netbook and
>> dual-booting with Windows 7 on my main laptop. I'm looking for a
>> book on either Ubuntu or Linux in general in the "Windows inside
>> out" type of format, i.e. from simple through to fairly
>> technical, suitable for a general user - me! I'm slightly
>> concerned about forking out £34 for the current Ubuntu 12.04 
>> bible published by Sams  as the interface could possibly change
>> again in 14.04! Can anyone suggest a good general book, or should
>> I buy a general Linux book and if so what would be the
>> recommendations for that, or should I just look for on-line
>> information, and if so where's the best place to look for the 
>> most topics in one place? (I do like big books!)
> 
> Print is dead, man. :-)
> 
> Seriously, I'm not aware of anything decent on dead tree except 
> super-detailed tech refs for pro techies.
> 
> Join the main Ubuntu list. Read it daily. Don't use digest mode.
> 
> Join the fora. Read them too.
> 
> Become glued to OMGubuntu.
> 
> Get on Twitter and follow some interesting Linux people; read their
> links.
> 
> FOSS moves fast. Books don't move at all.
> 
> Don't waste your money.
> 
There are some in the Software Center that you can buy but to be
honest I'd have a look on amazon at the official Ubuntu book.

But it really depends what you are after doing with it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good general book on Ubuntu/Linux?

2012-10-03 Thread Liam Proven
On 3 October 2012 16:21, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:
> I'm a reasonable user of Ubuntu - both on my netbook and dual-booting with
> Windows 7 on my main laptop.
> I'm looking for a book on either Ubuntu or Linux in general in the "Windows
> inside out" type of format, i.e. from simple through to fairly technical,
> suitable for a general user - me!
> I'm slightly concerned about forking out £34 for the current Ubuntu 12.04
> bible published by Sams  as the interface could possibly change again in
> 14.04!
> Can anyone suggest a good general book, or should I buy a general Linux book
> and if so what would be the recommendations for that, or should I just look
> for on-line information, and if so where's the best place to look for the
> most topics in one place? (I do like big books!)

Print is dead, man. :-)

Seriously, I'm not aware of anything decent on dead tree except
super-detailed tech refs for pro techies.

Join the main Ubuntu list. Read it daily. Don't use digest mode.

Join the fora. Read them too.

Become glued to OMGubuntu.

Get on Twitter and follow some interesting Linux people; read their links.

FOSS moves fast. Books don't move at all.

Don't waste your money.

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[ubuntu-uk] Good general book on Ubuntu/Linux?

2012-10-03 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
I'm a reasonable user of Ubuntu - both on my netbook and dual-booting 
with Windows 7 on my main laptop.
I'm looking for a book on either Ubuntu or Linux in general in the 
"Windows inside out" type of format, i.e. from simple through to fairly 
technical, suitable for a general user - me!
I'm slightly concerned about forking out £34 for the current Ubuntu 
12.04 bible published by Sams  as the interface could possibly change 
again in 14.04!
Can anyone suggest a good general book, or should I buy a general Linux 
book and if so what would be the recommendations for that, or should I 
just look for on-line information, and if so where's the best place to 
look for the most topics in one place? (I do like big books!)


Cheers

Gordon
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