[ubuntu-uk] Parallela: kickstarter project [off topic]?

2012-10-13 Thread Andrés Muñiz Piniella
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/adapteva/parallella-a-supercomputer-for-everyone?ref=live

I know there are several kickstarter projects that use Ubuntu as the
base OS. But just wanted to high light this one as this parallel
computing seems to me a great idea.

Sorry if out of context.


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[ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

Hi!
I'm looking at the inevitable replacement of my 4 year old Toshiba 
Satellite laptop in the near future and am looking at purchasing a 
laptop pre-installed.
I'm having grave difficulties finding any vendors in the UK other than 
Linux Emporium - are there any others?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread Anton Kanishchev
As far as I am aware there is also system76 that sell laptops with Linux
pre installed. I think it only does ubuntu but not sure myself.
Bearing in mind that laptops with Linux pre installed are not significantly
cheaper than their windows counterparts. You would have more choice if you
include windows laptops in your search. You can always wipe it if you don't
want windows on your laptop.
On Oct 13, 2012 6:00 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi!
 I'm looking at the inevitable replacement of my 4 year old Toshiba
 Satellite laptop in the near future and am looking at purchasing a laptop
 pre-installed.
 I'm having grave difficulties finding any vendors in the UK other than
 Linux Emporium - are there any others?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 13/10/12 18:21, Anton Kanishchev wrote:


As far as I am aware there is also system76 that sell laptops with 
Linux pre installed. I think it only does ubuntu but not sure myself.




Unfortunately they're in America!


Bearing in mind that laptops with Linux pre installed are not 
significantly cheaper than their windows counterparts. You would have 
more choice if you include windows laptops in your search. You can 
always wipe it if you don't want windows on your laptop.




Yes - that's what I did with my current laptop, but only because the 
later versions of Ubuntu (beginning with 10.04 and now with 12.04) 
supported the hardware - previous versions did not. (Well not all of it).
That's my concern - that if I buy an up to the minute laptop with 
Windows installed, and then find that 12.04 doesn't work properly, I'm 
in for a (possible) lot of hassle - hence the desire to get one with 
Ubuntu pre-installed.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread paul sutton
On 13/10/12 18:21, Anton Kanishchev wrote:

 As far as I am aware there is also system76 that sell laptops with
 Linux pre installed. I think it only does ubuntu but not sure myself.
 Bearing in mind that laptops with Linux pre installed are not
 significantly cheaper than their windows counterparts. You would have
 more choice if you include windows laptops in your search. You can
 always wipe it if you don't want windows on your laptop.

 On Oct 13, 2012 6:00 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com
 mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi!
 I'm looking at the inevitable replacement of my 4 year old Toshiba
 Satellite laptop in the near future and am looking at purchasing a
 laptop pre-installed.
 I'm having grave difficulties finding any vendors in the UK other
 than Linux Emporium - are there any others?


isn't there a company called naked computers,  who sell systems minus any OS

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread Anton Kanishchev
My bad, I thought they were in the uk :( . I think they do ship to UK but
the tax you would pay to get it over here (20 odd %) will negate any
savings. Taking into account the importance of hardware support it may be a
good idea to bring in a usb stick (with persistency) with all  your common
applications (not data) into a store and ask whether you can test drive the
os (ubuntu 12.04 for example). that way you can check whether the laptop
will work for you when(if) you do buy it. I heard that dell were going to
release a laptop with ubuntu preinstalled.
Is it a nessesity for you that you have a laptop and not a desktop. The
reason I am asking is that you can configure a desktop (even if you dont
build it yourself) to have all componnets be 100% compatible. There is a
list of compatible components on the ubuntu website.

  From my experience with linux the biggest problems in terms of
getting things to work are the graphics drivers and sound,sometimes
external monitors(related to graphics drivers in the first place). What
sort of specifications would you need/be looking for in a laptop(cpu
power,ram etc)? I think certain mobile chipsets are better supported than
others and full out of the box support is very dependant on the
gpu(drivers).

Summary- I would go into a store and try out your favourite distro(with
just basic install but all latest updates) and see what happens-worst thing
is they wont let you do it, at least you would be able to test the laptop
before you commit yourself to buying one and spending hours(weeks?) sorting
all the (not so) little nags.

 Hope this helped somehow.

On 13 October 2012 18:28, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 13/10/12 18:21, Anton Kanishchev wrote:

 As far as I am aware there is also system76 that sell laptops with Linux
 pre installed. I think it only does ubuntu but not sure myself.


 Unfortunately they're in America!



  Bearing in mind that laptops with Linux pre installed are not
 significantly cheaper than their windows counterparts. You would have more
 choice if you include windows laptops in your search. You can always wipe
 it if you don't want windows on your laptop.


 Yes - that's what I did with my current laptop, but only because the later
 versions of Ubuntu (beginning with 10.04 and now with 12.04) supported the
 hardware - previous versions did not. (Well not all of it).
 That's my concern - that if I buy an up to the minute laptop with Windows
 installed, and then find that 12.04 doesn't work properly, I'm in for a
 (possible) lot of hassle - hence the desire to get one with Ubuntu
 pre-installed.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi,

a quick way to see if the laptop you're considering is Ubuntu Friendly is
to look at https://friendly.ubuntu.com/

Regards,

Phill.

On 13 October 2012 18:51, Anton Kanishchev antonk20...@gmail.com wrote:

 My bad, I thought they were in the uk :( . I think they do ship to UK but
 the tax you would pay to get it over here (20 odd %) will negate any
 savings. Taking into account the importance of hardware support it may be a
 good idea to bring in a usb stick (with persistency) with all  your common
 applications (not data) into a store and ask whether you can test drive the
 os (ubuntu 12.04 for example). that way you can check whether the laptop
 will work for you when(if) you do buy it. I heard that dell were going to
 release a laptop with ubuntu preinstalled.
 Is it a nessesity for you that you have a laptop and not a desktop. The
 reason I am asking is that you can configure a desktop (even if you dont
 build it yourself) to have all componnets be 100% compatible. There is a
 list of compatible components on the ubuntu website.

   From my experience with linux the biggest problems in terms of
 getting things to work are the graphics drivers and sound,sometimes
 external monitors(related to graphics drivers in the first place). What
 sort of specifications would you need/be looking for in a laptop(cpu
 power,ram etc)? I think certain mobile chipsets are better supported than
 others and full out of the box support is very dependant on the
 gpu(drivers).

 Summary- I would go into a store and try out your favourite distro(with
 just basic install but all latest updates) and see what happens-worst thing
 is they wont let you do it, at least you would be able to test the laptop
 before you commit yourself to buying one and spending hours(weeks?) sorting
 all the (not so) little nags.

  Hope this helped somehow.

 On 13 October 2012 18:28, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 13/10/12 18:21, Anton Kanishchev wrote:

 As far as I am aware there is also system76 that sell laptops with Linux
 pre installed. I think it only does ubuntu but not sure myself.


 Unfortunately they're in America!



  Bearing in mind that laptops with Linux pre installed are not
 significantly cheaper than their windows counterparts. You would have more
 choice if you include windows laptops in your search. You can always wipe
 it if you don't want windows on your laptop.


 Yes - that's what I did with my current laptop, but only because the
 later versions of Ubuntu (beginning with 10.04 and now with 12.04)
 supported the hardware - previous versions did not. (Well not all of it).
 That's my concern - that if I buy an up to the minute laptop with Windows
 installed, and then find that 12.04 doesn't work properly, I'm in for a
 (possible) lot of hassle - hence the desire to get one with Ubuntu
 pre-installed.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread Mark Einon
Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi!
I'm looking at the inevitable replacement of my 4 year old Toshiba 
Satellite laptop in the near future and am looking at purchasing a 
laptop pre-installed.
I'm having grave difficulties finding any vendors in the UK other than 
Linux Emporium - are there any others?

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I can recommended novatech...uk based with some outlet stores, they sell bare 
systems but at a reduced price from the win versions. They're worth a look...

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - Pre-installed Linux machine vendors

2012-10-13 Thread Colin Law
On 13 October 2012 18:00, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!
 I'm looking at the inevitable replacement of my 4 year old Toshiba Satellite
 laptop in the near future and am looking at purchasing a laptop
 pre-installed.
 I'm having grave difficulties finding any vendors in the UK other than Linux
 Emporium - are there any others?

I am running Ubuntu 12.10 Beta on a PC Specialist Genesis IV [0] (with a core i5
processor and onboard graphics) with only a few minor problems.  It is
not available with Ubuntu pre-installed but is available with no OS.
There is a problem with the screen brightness function keys [1] but
there is a workaround and a fix has been released.
The only other problem I have had is with the SD card reader [2] but
again the workaround works.

It is based on a Clevo laptop and reports itself as a
W240EU/W250EUQ/W270EUQ.  I believe that the System76 machines are also
based on Clevo units.

Colin

[0] http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/genesisIV/
[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/806032
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/971876

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