Re: [ubuntu-uk] GCHQ: "Can you find it?" competition 2013

2013-09-12 Thread Daniel Case
Well that's a good start

www.canyoufindit.co.uk uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is only valid for canyoufindit.co.uk
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] GCHQ: "Can you find it?" competition 2013

2013-09-12 Thread SuperEngineer
On Thu, 2013-09-12 at 15:23 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
www.canyoufindit.co.uk uses an invalid security certificate.
> The certificate is only valid for canyoufindit.co.uk 

One minor problem with "Can you f it" initiative...
They also have an invalid building design!
...it's the only building built to look a bullseye target! daftbuggas ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] GCHQ: "Can you find it?" competition 2013

2013-09-12 Thread mac
On 12 Sep 2013, at 15:23, Daniel Case  wrote:
> Well that's a good start
> www.canyoufindit.co.uk uses an invalid security certificate.
> The certificate is only valid for canyoufindit.co.uk

They're presumably trying to recruit folk who'll be able to break the few 
remaining bits of the internet security systems that they haven't got round to 
cracking yet. Perhaps you just passed the first test? ;)

Alternatively, you could always go and help the IETF to defeat GCHQ and NSA 
nefariousness:

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-hallambaker-prismproof-req-00.txt

mac


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread Alan Pope
On 12 September 2013 11:28, Pete Smout  wrote:
> I agree, $700 is a lot for untested software, I would happily install
> alongside Android, even at beta test stage, but I will not pay a months rent
> for the privalige!

Well the good news is you can!

http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install

Bug reports welcome!

> I hope the project lives on but feel that a major error
> of judgment was made setting the price point, and perhaps a tie in with
> manufacturer / service provider was a better route to take.
> I don't know anyone who buys their handset, they are bundled up with their
> service contract.

The price point was set by the hardware spec. Sapphire glass and 128GB
storage isn't cheap. For a global audience, having a tie-in with a
carrier is massively unpopular. Which carrier? Which territories?

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread Pete Smout
@google hope you enjoyed reading this, It had nothing to do with you!
sent from my HTC.
On Sep 12, 2013 11:20 AM, "scoundrel50a"  wrote:
>
>
>>> Ok sorry about top posting my last message on phone and hadnt worked
out how to bottom post..
>>>
>>> I would like to see an Ubuntu phoneI would be interested in running
it alongside the OS that I run now
>>
>> If more people had paid $700 for one you could have seen one in May next
year...
>>
>> s/
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
> But $700 is a lot of money...for an unknown OS..I would use it if
I could run it alongside the OS I have on the phone now. Is it going to be
out for general use soon and what Phones can be used with it

I agree, $700 is a lot for untested software, I would happily install
alongside Android, even at beta test stage, but I will not pay a months
rent for the privalige! I hope the project lives on but feel that a major
error of judgment was made setting the price point, and perhaps a tie in
with manufacturer / service provider was a better route to take.
I don't know anyone who buys their handset, they are bundled up with their
service contract.

Just my 0.02p worth
Pete Smout

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread Alan Pope
On 12 September 2013 11:19, scoundrel50a  wrote:
> But $700 is a lot of money...for an unknown OS..I would use it if I
> could run it alongside the OS I have on the phone now. Is it going to be out
> for general use soon and what Phones can be used with it
>

We don't support installing alongside other OSs, but other hackers
might have software which enables dual-boot.

Ubuntu Touch reaches a "1.0" release at the same time as 13.10
releases in October. We make images for the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, LG
Nexus 4, Asus Nexus 7 and Samsung Nexus 10. Community hackers have
ported it to other devices.

More info at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread scoundrel50a



Ok sorry about top posting my last message on phone and hadnt
worked out how to bottom post..

I would like to see an Ubuntu phoneI would be interested in
running it alongside the OS that I run now

If more people had paid $700 for one you could have seen one in May 
next year...


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But $700 is a lot of money...for an unknown OS..I would use it 
if I could run it alongside the OS I have on the phone now. Is it going 
to be out for general use soon and what Phones can be used with it
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 12 September 2013 08:56, John MM  wrote:

>
> On 12 Sep 2013 08:45, "Alan Pope"  wrote:
> >
> > On 12 September 2013 08:37, YaManicKill 
> wrote:
> > > However, there was that Samsung galaxy s4 pictured running Tizen a few
> days
> > > ago.
> > >
> >
> > I can show you a photo of a Nexus 4 running Ubuntu Touch... :)
> >
> > There's a bunch of developer devices. I saw one in San Francisco after
> > a Tizen conference about 18 months ago. Looks like Samsung are the
> > only ones at the moment who are planning on shipping any Tizen
> > devices.
> >
> > It's certainly interesting times with Sailfish, FirefoxOS, Tizen and
> > of course Ubuntu Touch looking to pick up some of the mobile market.
> >
> > Al.
> >
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> Ok sorry about top posting my last message on phone and hadnt worked out
> how to bottom post..
>
> I would like to see an Ubuntu phoneI would be interested in running it
> alongside the OS that I run now
>
If more people had paid $700 for one you could have seen one in May next
year...

s/


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread John MM
On 12 Sep 2013 08:45, "Alan Pope"  wrote:
>
> On 12 September 2013 08:37, YaManicKill 
wrote:
> > However, there was that Samsung galaxy s4 pictured running Tizen a few
days
> > ago.
> >
>
> I can show you a photo of a Nexus 4 running Ubuntu Touch... :)
>
> There's a bunch of developer devices. I saw one in San Francisco after
> a Tizen conference about 18 months ago. Looks like Samsung are the
> only ones at the moment who are planning on shipping any Tizen
> devices.
>
> It's certainly interesting times with Sailfish, FirefoxOS, Tizen and
> of course Ubuntu Touch looking to pick up some of the mobile market.
>
> Al.
>
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Ok sorry about top posting my last message on phone and hadnt worked out
how to bottom post..

I would like to see an Ubuntu phoneI would be interested in running it
alongside the OS that I run now
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread Alan Pope
On 12 September 2013 08:37, YaManicKill  wrote:
> However, there was that Samsung galaxy s4 pictured running Tizen a few days
> ago.
>

I can show you a photo of a Nexus 4 running Ubuntu Touch... :)

There's a bunch of developer devices. I saw one in San Francisco after
a Tizen conference about 18 months ago. Looks like Samsung are the
only ones at the moment who are planning on shipping any Tizen
devices.

It's certainly interesting times with Sailfish, FirefoxOS, Tizen and
of course Ubuntu Touch looking to pick up some of the mobile market.

Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread YaManicKill
On 12 Sep 2013 08:24, "Alan Pope"  wrote:
>
> On 12 September 2013 08:02, John MM  wrote:
> > Yeh but the question was do you know anything about the OS
> >
>
> Oh, sorry, I answered "what Linux system they might be working with?"
>
> Tizen has been under development by Intel and others for a while now.
> I don't think any production phones have actually shipped yet, only
> developer versions.
>
> Al.

However, there was that Samsung galaxy s4 pictured running Tizen a few days
ago.

Other Al
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread Alan Pope
On 12 September 2013 08:02, John MM  wrote:
> Yeh but the question was do you know anything about the OS
>

Oh, sorry, I answered "what Linux system they might be working with?"

Tizen has been under development by Intel and others for a while now.
I don't think any production phones have actually shipped yet, only
developer versions.

Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samsung might be getting rid of Android and using their own Linux based OS

2013-09-12 Thread John MM
Yeh but the question was do you know anything about the OS
On 12 Sep 2013 07:47, "Alan Pope"  wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, September 12, 2013, scoundrel50a wrote:
>
>> I thought this was interesting, does anybody know what Linux system they
>> might be working with? Would it be any good?
>>
>> http://androidcommunity.com/**samsungs-tizen-os-3-0-spotted-**
>> on-the-galaxy-s4-20130910/
>>
>
> It says right in the title. "Tizen".
>
> Al.
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