Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot

2014-12-05 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
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On 05/12/14 05:56, Mike Hingley wrote:
 I wonder if advocacy for the Operating System is too narrow a
 target.  I think it’s fair to say that computers are typically seen
 as Windows or Mac.  People on a don’t tend to think about the
 operating system in their computer - and I can sort of see that
 argument.  Advocating that someone should ditch their OS for a free
 OS (in the true sense of free) might be a stretch for some people -
 perhaps we need to start smaller, perhaps in looking at components.
 Maybe Firefox and Chrome offer a “Foot in the door”.
 

The problem with that is, both those (and LibreOffice of course) are
available for Windows, so yes change the browser and office suite, but
as they work on Windows, why change the OS?

I think the far better angle post-Snowden would be security, privacy,
and lack of viruses and malware.
Just my 2d.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot

2014-12-05 Thread Mike Hingley
yes - good point about security - it was obviously too early in the morning for 
the little grey cells to engage.

 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 08:51:09 +
 From: gordo...@mail.com
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot
 
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 On 05/12/14 05:56, Mike Hingley wrote:
  I wonder if advocacy for the Operating System is too narrow a
  target.  I think it’s fair to say that computers are typically seen
  as Windows or Mac.  People on a don’t tend to think about the
  operating system in their computer - and I can sort of see that
  argument.  Advocating that someone should ditch their OS for a free
  OS (in the true sense of free) might be a stretch for some people -
  perhaps we need to start smaller, perhaps in looking at components.
  Maybe Firefox and Chrome offer a “Foot in the door”.
  
 
 The problem with that is, both those (and LibreOffice of course) are
 available for Windows, so yes change the browser and office suite, but
 as they work on Windows, why change the OS?
 
 I think the far better angle post-Snowden would be security, privacy,
 and lack of viruses and malware.
 Just my 2d.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot

2014-12-05 Thread Alan Bell
well you are certainly not wrong, it has kind of drifted off, and my 
name is still on the door as point of contact, I am happy to step aside 
if that would help, or carry on (I am still sending out 14.04 CDs to 
anyone who sends an SAE and I am happy to continue doing that).


I would like to know if there is going to be a phone released in this 
country with Ubuntu Touch on it (or Unity 8 if that is what it is going 
to be known as). If there will be I think that could drum up some 
enthusiasm, people will want to know if it is worth getting one, and if 
it is worth skilling up to develop apps for it and integrate it with 
online stuff and business systems. If it is only going to be available 
in Elbonia then it is a bit hard to get worked up about it.



On 04/12/14 13:57, Alan Pope wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to kick off a thread about rebooting the team. We have
discussions on the list, an active IRC channel, regular beer-related
celebrations and a podcast in its 7th year, but not a lot else (unless
I'm mistaken?) done as team effort.

So I wanted to start an open discussion here based on my assertion
that the team (such as it is) is currently somewhat moribund, and
needs a boot up the arse for 2015.

The questions I have are:-

a) Do you agree?
b) What shall we do about it?

In my mind I'd like to see us doing more in the way of advocacy, event
organising/attending, code jams, support and so on. We could all do
this individually or we could do it co-ordinated as a team. I'd prefer
the latter.

Discuss. :)

Cheers,
Al.




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