[ubuntu-uk] Windows 10 - Still a disaster zone.
Today I have upgraded a family member's laptop from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. First off the updates on 8.1 are abysmal. The progress bar jumps in huge leaps and there is no activity sometimes for up to 10 minutes between. You are left wondering if it has crashed. Eventually once all the updates have completed and you still can't find the missing 'Get Windows 10 app' you realise that it was always there, just not in the 'lego brick screen' where you would expect it to be. The upgrade process was seamless, although agonisingly slow. Once upgraded I turned my attention to the fact that he can not install new apps. When I first set his machine up it demanded an email address which could be un-linked after installation but it would not continue without it. Seems like a terrible design to me and the un-linking is what was stopping it from installing so I set him up an account and promptly failed to install the program he desired. The files downloaded, it claimed to have installed yet it would not run. Returning to the store it proclaimed 'this is embarrassing' and offered up the error code 0x80070002. Much searching of many forums takes me to a number of Microsoft 'Fixit' downloads, one of which claims 'Service registration missing or corrupt' Unable to find out anything meaningful about this I eventually decided to try to remove the downloaded file and start again. An educated guess at where the store cache is resulted in something getting deleted which is essential for any program to launch, now nothing runs. When I left the system was restoring to the point of upgrade at the speed of a snail. Why do their error messages have to be so meaningless? And why is it so difficult to get any common sense out of the system? A single upgrade system, app store, seamless upgrades without wiping the system, all features I found magical and wonderous as a new Linux user in 2006. They all seem to be embedded so deeply in the workflow of the system that it is elegant to see in action. What Microsoft have produced seems to be slow, clunky and doesn't really seem to work. If something can't install in Ubuntu I'm told something useful about why and can discover a solution within minutes. Three hours + later and Windows is still broken. I haven't used it myself since '06 and haven't missed it. Every chance I get to go back just reminds me why I left! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 10 - Still a disaster zone.
On 02/08/15 19:24, Gareth France wrote: Today I have upgraded a family member's laptop from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. I had Windows7 on a removable drive in a caddy on my desktop. A couple of days ago, I downloaded the Win 10 iso and did the free upgrade. the install process is painfully slow - but it worked. I was surprised MS allowed me to do it! Windows 10 itself is much much better than I expected. I haven't tried to install anything - if I did, I doubt I'd use the 'shop'. Next time I fire it up, I'll try installing something. Going from Win 7 to Win 10 changes the reg. number - and Microsoft doesn't make it easy to retrieve it. It's in the registry with the characters written in Ascii-hex. I think I got mine back OK, but I will try one of the downloadable apps that get it back, next time I fire Windows up (not for a few months, hopefully!). Back on topic, I am delighted that Wine now installs and works properly in Wily. I have been using Mint for a while, and am glad to be back with Ubuntu at last! Regards,Barry. -- http://barrydrake.co.nr/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows 10 - Still a disaster zone.
On 02/08/15 21:07, Barry Drake wrote: I had Windows7 on a removable drive in a caddy on my desktop. A couple of days ago, I downloaded the Win 10 iso and did the free upgrade. the install process is painfully slow - but it worked. I was surprised MS allowed me to do it! Windows 10 itself is much much better than I expected. I haven't tried to install anything - if I did, I doubt I'd use the 'shop'. Next time I fire it up, I'll try installing something. Going from Win 7 to Win 10 changes the reg. number - and Microsoft doesn't make it easy to retrieve it. It's in the registry with the characters written in Ascii-hex. I think I got mine back OK, but I will try one of the downloadable apps that get it back, next time I fire Windows up (not for a few months, hopefully!). Back on topic, I am delighted that Wine now installs and works properly in Wily. I have been using Mint for a while, and am glad to be back with Ubuntu at last! Regards,Barry. The feeling I get when using Windows is very much that I am using a product still designed to be installed off floppy disk with many patches bringing it into the 21st century like some sort of software jenga! Linux comes across as having sat down at some point and said 'ok, we need to integrate this internet thing' and because the whole workflow has been considered the solution is much, much more sane, elegant and painless. Yes, on first glance Win 10 seems to be better than 8 but it's still so painfully slow. The win 8 machines I have seen are all unusable, my old laptop I retired runs quicker! I don't think this is going to win any hearts, it still suffers from all the same bugs I have been complaining about since win 95! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/