Re: [ubuntu-uk] Password Requirement On Automatic Updates

2020-06-12 Thread Nigel Verity
Hi James

Thanks for this. I'm not sure I agree with the policy, as I feel any kind of 
installation should require explicit authority, but I'm pretty sure that your 
theory ties in with my experience.

Cheers

Nige


From: James Tait 
Sent: 12 June 2020 15:22
To: UK Ubuntu Talk 
Cc: Nigel Verity 
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Password Requirement On Automatic Updates

On 2020-06-12 13:12, Nigel Verity wrote:
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> Most days I get a notification dialog informing me of pending updates.
> Sometimes I install immediately, other times I'll click the "Remind Me
> Later" button. I've noticed an inconsistency regarding whether I am
> required to enter a password before the update proceeds. There appears
> to
> be no pattern determined by whether I install immediately or delay it
> until later.
>
> Does anybody know if the security policy for updates has changed? In
> all
> previous Ubuntu incarnations I've used I've always, without exception,
> had to provide a password prior to an update proceeding.
>
> Discretionary updates using the command line or Synaptic always require
> a
> password, so the issue seems to be concerned solely with the updater
> service. It looks like a bug to me but I don't want to waste anybody's
> time if it is in some way intentional.

I believe the policy is that a password will only be required if an
upgrade
results in the installation of new packages, e.g. an upgrade of the
linux-image-generic package would result in the installation of a
different
linux-image-x.y.z-generic package, whereas upgrading something like vim
would just install a newer version of the same package.


HTH,


JT
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Password Requirement On Automatic Updates

2020-06-12 Thread James Tait

On 2020-06-12 13:12, Nigel Verity wrote:
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Most days I get a notification dialog informing me of pending updates.
Sometimes I install immediately, other times I'll click the "Remind Me
Later" button. I've noticed an inconsistency regarding whether I am
required to enter a password before the update proceeds. There appears 
to

be no pattern determined by whether I install immediately or delay it
until later.

Does anybody know if the security policy for updates has changed? In 
all

previous Ubuntu incarnations I've used I've always, without exception,
had to provide a password prior to an update proceeding.

Discretionary updates using the command line or Synaptic always require 
a

password, so the issue seems to be concerned solely with the updater
service. It looks like a bug to me but I don't want to waste anybody's
time if it is in some way intentional.


I believe the policy is that a password will only be required if an 
upgrade

results in the installation of new packages, e.g. an upgrade of the
linux-image-generic package would result in the installation of a 
different

linux-image-x.y.z-generic package, whereas upgrading something like vim
would just install a newer version of the same package.


HTH,


JT

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[ubuntu-uk] Password Requirement On Automatic Updates

2020-06-12 Thread Nigel Verity
Hi

I've been running Ubuntu 20.04 (Gnome desktop) for about 3 weeks, from a clean 
install.

Most days I get a notification dialog informing me of pending updates. 
Sometimes I install immediately, other times I'll click the "Remind Me Later" 
button. I've noticed an inconsistency regarding whether I am required to enter 
a password before the update proceeds. There appears to be no pattern 
determined by whether I install immediately or delay it until later.

Does anybody know if the security policy for updates has changed? In all 
previous Ubuntu incarnations I've used I've always, without exception, had to 
provide a password prior to an update proceeding.

Discretionary updates using the command line or Synaptic always require a 
password, so the issue seems to be concerned solely with the updater service. 
It looks like a bug to me but I don't want to waste anybody's time if it is in 
some way intentional.

Thanks

Nige
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