Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Also Gareth, Debian packaging is a pain until you get used to it. But on the plus side its a good skill to have if you want to help out the Ubuntu community as you can become a package maintainer once you get proficient and have the time for it. On 24 Apr 2014, at 11:28, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 24 April 2014 11:24, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S -sa dpkg-buildpackage: source package cliftontestsuite dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.1-1 dpkg-buildpackage: source distribution UNRELEASED dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk dpkg-source --before-build Clifton Test Suite v0.1 dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Package' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Version' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Architecture' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Essential' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Depends' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Description' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: error: Clifton Test Suite v0.1/debian/control doesn't list any binary package dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source --before-build Clifton Test Suite v0.1 gave error exit status 255 debuild: fatal error at line 1364: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S -sa failed Looks like some other errors in your debian/control file layout. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html is the canonical (heu) documentation for what should be in there. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Agreed, Give us the contents of the files in debian/ so we can try figure out what its choking on. (I am not an expert on debian packaging but I will do my best to help you). On 24 Apr 2014, at 11:31, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/04/14 11:28, Alan Pope wrote: On 24 April 2014 11:24, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S -sa dpkg-buildpackage: source package cliftontestsuite dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.1-1 dpkg-buildpackage: source distribution UNRELEASED dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk dpkg-source --before-build Clifton Test Suite v0.1 dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Package' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Version' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Architecture' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Essential' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Depends' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Description' in input data in general section of control info file dpkg-source: error: Clifton Test Suite v0.1/debian/control doesn't list any binary package dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source --before-build Clifton Test Suite v0.1 gave error exit status 255 debuild: fatal error at line 1364: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S -sa failed Looks like some other errors in your debian/control file layout. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html is the canonical (heu) documentation for what should be in there. Al. I have to be honest I have no idea what is supposed to go in a debian control file. This one was nicked and modified off the internet and I can't find any real explaination of what is supposed to go in there. It's very surprising things are still like this. You're supposed to just know and get it right. The software gives you no leway. I'm sure once I've done it once it will all become very easy but this is a bit of a nightmare. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Yeah no worries mate and yes I hate the aggressive stance people sometimes take too. I tend to avoid posting on forums as I hate responses like that. Python in particular is a fantastic language to learn and it forces you to use good best practices if you aim to follow pep-8. Looking at the Control file you have sent I cannot see what is wrong. Hopefully someone more experienced with packaging will be able to see the problem. I will have another look later if I get chance but I currently have some pressing deadlines. Sorry I cannot be of more help, Alan Jenkins On 24 Apr 2014, at 11:35, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/04/14 11:31, Alan James Jenkins wrote: Also Gareth, Debian packaging is a pain until you get used to it. But on the plus side its a good skill to have if you want to help out the Ubuntu community as you can become a package maintainer once you get proficient and have the time for it. I know, I have struggled to get to grips with programming post quick basic and it is actually very depressing. I have found places you can go to ask for help and get treated like a moron because you don't already know. I have looked and gui's and I swear I will never understand! I am however loving python and perl, they make sense to me. My biggest problem is my methods and my way of looking at programming challenges is horrendously out of date. I'm hoping people will correct me as time goes on and maybe, just maybe you guys can drag me into this century. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Hey Gareth, Just looked up how to build a package without signing and supposedly this builds an unsigned source package: debuild -i -us -uc -S and this builds the binary: debuild -i -us -uc -b Give that a try =) On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:22, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like some other errors in your debian/control file layout. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html is the canonical (heu) documentation for what should be in there. Al. Hooray! I've figured it out! I just had to juggle the order of the entries in control and separate the two paragraphs. However now I'm getting a gpg signing error. How can I do this without needing that? Now signing changes and any dsc files... signfile cliftontestsuite_0.1-1.dsc Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk gpg: directory `/home/gareth/.gnupg' created gpg: new configuration file `/home/gareth/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/gareth/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run gpg: keyring `/home/gareth/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created gpg: keyring `/home/gareth/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created gpg: skipped Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk: secret key not available gpg: /tmp/debsign.inJng4qL/cliftontestsuite_0.1-1.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting debuild: fatal error at line 1283: running debsign failed -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
The -uc is what tells it to not sign the changes and -us tells it not to sign the sources FYI (found in the man page of dpkg-buildpackage). On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Alan James Jenkins alan.james.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Gareth, Just looked up how to build a package without signing and supposedly this builds an unsigned source package: debuild -i -us -uc -S and this builds the binary: debuild -i -us -uc -b Give that a try =) On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:22, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like some other errors in your debian/control file layout. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html is the canonical (heu) documentation for what should be in there. Al. Hooray! I've figured it out! I just had to juggle the order of the entries in control and separate the two paragraphs. However now I'm getting a gpg signing error. How can I do this without needing that? Now signing changes and any dsc files... signfile cliftontestsuite_0.1-1.dsc Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk gpg: directory `/home/gareth/.gnupg' created gpg: new configuration file `/home/gareth/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/gareth/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run gpg: keyring `/home/gareth/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created gpg: keyring `/home/gareth/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created gpg: skipped Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk: secret key not available gpg: /tmp/debsign.inJng4qL/cliftontestsuite_0.1-1.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting debuild: fatal error at line 1283: running debsign failed -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
No problem mate =) glad its sorted. On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:41, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/04/14 14:38, Alan James Jenkins wrote: Hey Gareth, Just looked up how to build a package without signing and supposedly this builds an unsigned source package: debuild -i -us -uc -S and this builds the binary: debuild -i -us -uc -b Give that a try =) On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:22, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like some other errors in your debian/control file layout. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html is the canonical (heu) documentation for what should be in there. Al. Hooray! I've figured it out! I just had to juggle the order of the entries in control and separate the two paragraphs. However now I'm getting a gpg signing error. How can I do this without needing that? Now signing changes and any dsc files... signfile cliftontestsuite_0.1-1.dsc Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk gpg: directory `/home/gareth/.gnupg' created gpg: new configuration file `/home/gareth/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/gareth/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run gpg: keyring `/home/gareth/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created gpg: keyring `/home/gareth/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created gpg: skipped Gareth gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk: secret key not available gpg: /tmp/debsign.inJng4qL/cliftontestsuite_0.1-1.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available debsign: gpg error occurred! Aborting debuild: fatal error at line 1283: running debsign failed -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Now running lintian... W: cliftontestsuite source: no-section-field-for-source W: cliftontestsuite source: debhelper-compat-file-is-missing W: cliftontestsuite source: package-uses-deprecated-debhelper-compat-version 1 E: cliftontestsuite source: package-uses-debhelper-but-lacks-build-depends E: cliftontestsuite source: maintainer-address-missing Gareth France W: cliftontestsuite source: no-debian-copyright Finished running lintian. gareth@gareth-OptiPlex-GX280:~/test/Clifton Test Suite v0.1$ Hallelujah! Thanks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Yeah no worries mate it happens to all of us =). On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:43, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/04/14 14:41, Alan James Jenkins wrote: The -uc is what tells it to not sign the changes and -us tells it not to sign the sources FYI (found in the man page of dpkg-buildpackage). On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Alan James Jenkins alan.james.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: My problem was that I really wasn't sure where to turn to look for this sort of stuff. I've poked around so many forums and man pages these last few days my head is spinning! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Hey Pete, From experience I know that the worst part of getting a piece of software packaged is the initial setup. Once that is done and the infrastructure is in place it is easy to keep updating the package. However as you have seen it can be a real pain in the bum to get setup if you have not done it before. There are several suites of tools to help you build packages though but as I have previously stated I have not got a lot of experience building debian packages (I have a lot more experience building rpm’s for work). Don’t let this put you off though and give it a try at some point plus now you can also learn from this thread and of course if you hit your own problems just mail us all and we will do our best to help you. Thanks, Alan Jenkins On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:50, Peter Smout smoutp...@gmail.com wrote: On 24/04/14 14:43, Gareth France wrote: On 24/04/14 14:41, Alan James Jenkins wrote: The -uc is what tells it to not sign the changes and -us tells it not to sign the sources FYI (found in the man page of dpkg-buildpackage). On 24 Apr 2014, at 14:38, Alan James Jenkins alan.james.jenk...@gmail.com wrote: My problem was that I really wasn't sure where to turn to look for this sort of stuff. I've poked around so many forums and man pages these last few days my head is spinning! Hi, As a complete novice following this thread wit interest, I am put off compiling my small (but hopefully) useful prog to a .deb and will continue to call it from a script ;( This is a shame as I was hoping to expand my programme and and add a GUI, more as a project for me than anything, and maybe if all went well add it to the repo's but the world will just have to wait!! Congratulations on your eventual success Pete S -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Could you please give us the output of these commands: echo $PATH ls -la /usr/bin/seaward head -n1 /usr/bin/seaward Thanks, Alan On 23 Apr 2014, at 15:17, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/04/14 15:15, Stuart Ward wrote: On 23 April 2014 15:07, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried renaming the file but still get a 'Command not found' error. Any ideas My guess it that it will be permissions. what do you see with a ls -l /usr/bin/seaward -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6844 Apr 23 15:09 seaward -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Going on what those commands reported you should be good to run seaward as the script is in your path, is executable to everyone and has the correct interpreter set in the shebang. Is it not working? On 23 Apr 2014, at 15:22, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/04/14 15:18, Alan James Jenkins wrote: Could you please give us the output of these commands: echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games ls -la /usr/bin/seaward -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6844 Apr 23 15:09 /usr/bin/CTS/seaward head -n1 /usr/bin/seaward #!/usr/bin/perl -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Also try: which seaward If that shows /usr/bin/seaward your terminal is finding the command in your path. Reason for the `file /usr/bin/seaward` was to determine whether or not it was a valid symbolic link but tbh the ls -la /usr/bin/seaward showed that it was a symlink to /usr/bin/CTS/seaward already so dunno why I asked you to do that. If you call the script with its absolute path e.g: /usr/bin/seaward Does it work? On 23 Apr 2014, at 15:33, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 April 2014 15:22, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/04/14 15:18, Alan James Jenkins wrote: Could you please give us the output of these commands: echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games ls -la /usr/bin/seaward -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6844 Apr 23 15:09 /usr/bin/CTS/seaward What is that CTS doing there? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Publishing to the software centre
Good stuff glad you got it working =). On 23 Apr 2014, at 15:39, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/04/14 15:37, Alan James Jenkins wrote: Also try: which seaward If that shows /usr/bin/seaward your terminal is finding the command in your path. Reason for the `file /usr/bin/seaward` was to determine whether or not it was a valid symbolic link but tbh the ls -la /usr/bin/seaward showed that it was a symlink to /usr/bin/CTS/seaward already so dunno why I asked you to do that. If you call the script with its absolute path e.g: /usr/bin/seaward Does it work? On 23 Apr 2014, at 15:33, Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 April 2014 15:22, Gareth France gareth.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/04/14 15:18, Alan James Jenkins wrote: Could you please give us the output of these commands: echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games ls -la /usr/bin/seaward -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 6844 Apr 23 15:09 /usr/bin/CTS/seaward What is that CTS doing there? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ I've got it now thanks guys. It was an ownership issue. It's now packaged in a deb file and installing correctly. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Learning Ubuntu....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guys you really make me wish that I was old enough to have done all of this. The only way I can get close is by playing with the oldest servers I could find in my college when I ran it for them for a while (VMS based). One thing I still find funny about that OS is the Crash command. Sean Miller wrote: Sun did us a course in Solaris at Foster Yeoman (we were the first UK Oracle 7 production site, beat that!) and I have to say that Unix and VMS were about as different as chalk and cheese. But I worked it out and became a Unix expert as I'd been a VMS one... Sean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmwX/cACgkQa2GqWmDvHcPnVACgiphN7KGVUCm9RTfLSMW69/C4 UvAAn2vbiJTOErK/mZHtd1g7awPHN6Vm =YZ0M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MBR
I see no problem with this other than you must make sure you do not accidentally unplug the USB drive while in use as that may result in dataloss depending on what you are doing. Just be careful though and all should be ok. Home Phone: 01242 676299 iPhone temporary number: 07549956765 Fax: 0871 528 8931 On 20 Feb 2009, at 14:24, Keith ke...@grumpyface.me.uk wrote: Some of you may remember that I wrote the following a couple of weeks ago and I received several helpful replies:- The machine I am writing this on has been playing up for a long, long time and each time I switch on I wait in trepidation to see whether or not it will actually boot up. Usually it does but I have to accept that it is coming to the end of its life. I have a Windows XP machine, which I've never actually opened up. I propose to remove the master drive from the Linux machine on which Ubuntu is installed and insert it into the Windows one. It will then become the slave drive. What I would like to know is how to create a new MBR on the Windows machine as I shall wish it to boot up into Ubuntu for 95% of the time. As it turned out it was all academic because the drive in the ailing machine was an IDE drive and the newer machine had SATA connections so I ended up partitioning and installing Ubuntu onto the single, 320Gb, drive which seems big enough. As it happens I had lying about in the attic an old USB caddie so I inserted the Ubuntu disc into it and connected it to a Vista laptop which boots from USB and switched on. Lo and behold I was presented with the Grub menu and was able to boot up into Ubuntu. The reason for this now lengthy missive, for which I apologise, is to ask the experts who may read it whether it is safe to run Ubuntu in this fashion, or am I in danger of corrupting data on either the Ubuntu or the Vista hard drive. Many thanks for your patience in reading so far and I look forward to receiving any reply. Regards, Keith. -- Keith Bowerman, Prestwood, south Staffordshire, England. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nonsensical jack sensing - A bug day idea
Pulseaudio is just another layer above alsa providing mixing amongst other things. Alsa is still used for outputting the sounds. Home Phone: 01242 676299 iPhone temporary number: 07549956765 Fax: 0871 528 8931 On 20 Feb 2009, at 15:11, Jacob Williams jacobw...@googlemail.com wrote: Forgive me if I misunderstand, but ALSA not in the process of being superseeded by PulseAudio? On 20 Feb 2009, 1:43 PM, Philip Wyett philwy...@gmx.com wrote: Hi all, Users of Linux with ALSA on laptops and other mobile devices have for years often been presented with the fun and games of sound working great but then plugging in headphones leaves you with no sound or sound coming out of speakers and headphones etc. This annoys many and makes distros look poor to the new user in some cases. Could we have a bug day for and in conjunction with ALSA to collect as much per user hardware and what they set to fix it i.e. the 'options' in alsa-base to maybe allow the ALSA project to make things better for all. Your thoughts would be appreciated? Regards Phil -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
