Re: [ubuntu-uk] More Vista Criticism from Aunty Beeb
--- baza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:09:04 + > The real problem is that if you buy a new pc or laptop from good old PC > World or pretty much anywhere you'll be stuck with vista. You can't say, > 'I'd rather have XP' or no OS at all to install your own. Actually, several people have managed to get refunds for Windows - read about it here: http://community.linux.com/community/07/01/03/227237.shtml?tid=12 -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Green Party vs Vista
--- john levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As featured on Slashdot, the Greens have issued a (somewhat hyperbolic) > statement against Vista: > Green Party asks: who has the key to your Vista PC? > http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/2851 On this subject: "The environmental impact of each new power-hungry, polluting computer is significant. A recent UN study found that 1.8 tons of raw material are required to manufacture the average desktop computer and monitor. Roughly 240 kilograms of fossil fuels, 22 kilograms of chemicals and 1,500 kilograms of water are used to make a desktop PC and a 17 inch CRT monitor.14 The environmental costs become alarming when considering how precipitously new PCs are being produced. Over 1 billion PCs had been produced in the world by the end of year 2002. The Computer Industry Almanac predicts that cumulative total will double within six years to over 2 billion by the year 2008.15" "In 1995, the production of a single six-inch silicon wafer required 3,200 cubic feet of bulk gases, 22 cubic feet of hazardous gases, 2,275 gallons of deionized water, 20 pounds of chemicals, and 285 kilowatt hours of electrical power. In the process, 25 pounds of sodium hydroxide, 2,840 gallons of waste water, and 7 pounds of miscellaneous hazardous wastes were generated.16" See this article for the whole story, references etc: http://www.ciber-runa.net/guide/BetterUpgrade--ActivistGuide.html -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 ___ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Donation of Old PCs
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 13:03:14 + From: "Mr W. F. Vening" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Donation of Old PCs To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Has anyone looked into taking donations of old PCs, which businesses > throw out, and installing a form of Ubuntu on them. Then giving them > to schools, youth clubs etc who couldn't afford to buy them? Yes, I have been doing something similar for about the last 2 years. I started out by salvaging old computers from skips (see http://scavengeuk.mine.nu), installing Ubuntu, and giving them mostly to friends. More recently I've been advertising them on my local Freecycle group (see http://freecycle.org/) and giving them to people who sound like they have an interest in trying out Linux. According to my 'asset register' I've given away about 30 so far. The response from most of these people has been very positive towards Ubuntu. Cheers, Ash -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] EDM179
Found this on LinuxToday, today: http://www.computeractive.co.uk/computeractive/news/2171542/education-driving-force-behind The article starts off sounding very positive but the conclusion leaves a bit of room for doubt. Ash -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] EDM179: Response From Alan Johnson, Secretary of State for Education and Skills
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:47:32 + From: Toby Smithe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Even worse: it's exactly the same response I got from Jim Knight, which > you can read at > http://tibsplace.co.uk/blog/index.php/2006/12/20/free-software-in-schools/ I strongly suspect that BECTA has been pre-emptively emailing MPs on this issue with their statement, especially as the EDM has started to gather more and more signatures. Ash -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 ___ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Too many networks!? Ubuntu gets confused ...
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:30:11 + > From: "Daniel Quarte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Too many networks!? Ubuntu gets confused ... > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > After managing to make my ADSL connection work with Ubuntu, I found out > that if my wireless connection is also on, Ubuntu seems to get confused and > doesn't connect me to the internet using neither connection. >Is there a way to tell Ubuntu which connection to use? I'm not sure which release of Ubuntu you're running, but you may want to install one of the following packages: network-manager-gnome network-manager-kde They give you a nice system tray applet that lets you select between wired or wireless connections, and easily configure your wireless encryption type (WEP/WPA) and encryption keys. Cheers Ash -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 ___ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade
Tony wrote: > I wonder if there is an approach whereby I clone the root logical volume > and somehow upgrade the clone (without booting into it, that is). That > way the system should always at least reboot into the original system? Although I'm not sure if you can upgrade an installation without booting into it, you certainly can clone one partition to another if you have the disk space. I did this just the other day when I wanted to install Feisty to a spare partition on my Edgy laptop - which has no CD-ROM drive (and I couldn't be bothered doing a netboot install!). My preferred way of doing it is to first copy the files, and then install GRUB to the partition and then chain it from the MBR GRUB, so that the new root partition can auto-update its list of kernels without fighting with GRUB in the main install. After you've sorted GRUB to your preference, you only have to sort out /etc/fstab and update the device name of the root partition to be the new partition. And remember if you use 'ssh -X servername' you *can* run X applications (albeit a little slower) remotely. Not sure if I'd risk anything like running gparted over the Internet though - if your connection dropped I think gparted might just stop with the operation half-completed. Of course for CLI stuff, you could run GNU screen just in case you were to lose connection in the middle of a potentially destructive operation. Ash -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Done emailed my MP!
Results HAPPEN, folks! > Ashley, > Many thanks for your email. Simon is more than happy to add his name to > this EDM. His name will be appearing on the EDM over the next few days. > Regards > Francis If you haven't written yet, get cracking! :-) -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Done wrote my MP!
Here's my letter: - Date:Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:16:39 + (GMT) From: "Ashley Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:EDM 179 : SOFTWARE IN SCHOOLS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Simon Hughes, I'm a Southwark resident of 5 1/2 years, and recently heard about EDM 179 which John Pugh MP has tabled to encourage the use of free and open source software in UK schools. http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=31752 I notice you have not yet signed it and would like to encourage you to do so, if I may. I believe it's vital that, wherever possible, public money is not spent on often unnecessary software licensing costs. Free software such as Firefox, OpenOffice, Thunderbird etc is rapidly increasing in popularity worldwide, and for most tasks is now more than adequate; perhaps you already use say, Firefox yourself on your computer? I do believe it will become increasingly difficult to justify expenditure on proprietary software where user-friendly, robust, free alternatives exist as with the examples I've mentioned. Additionally, it is held that BECTA, the government agency responsible for use of IT in education, often provide somewhat questionable advice to schools. BECTA's supplier relationships tend to favour proprietary software, and lend themselves to 'vendor lock-in'. Yet even BECTA's own case studies found considerable cost savings in schools using open source software. I must urge you to add your name to John Pugh's Early Day Motion number 179, entitled "Software in Education". Yours sincerely, Ashley Hooper -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu & TV licensing
"Neil Greenwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I mentioned detector vans above. I think you can still associate an IP > address endpoint even when accessing a multicast connection... I could > be wrong, my IP/networking knowledge peters out when it gets to > multicast. No, that's not possible without a specific piece of software being installed on each multicast listener to report back to TV Licensing. In operation, only the very next 'upstream' router from each multicast listener knows the actual IP address of its listener(s). Whether there is only 1 listener or 100 listeners on a network segment is irrelevant to the routers *further* upstream; they only know YES/NO whether they need to forward traffic for a particular multicast group to the router servicing that segment. -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Laptop Keyboard Config
-- "Stephen Garton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just noticed that on my Acer Aspire 5601 laptop the ? (as in > shift and 3) and capslocks keys do not 'work' in Edgy. > Can anyone suggest a) any work around and b) which package I could > file a bug against. > Please let me know any commands I can issue that will help diagnose > what is wrong, and why would not be reconised. Stephen, are you using the inbuilt keyboard, or an external keyboard? It seems this is a general problem with Edgy on laptops, as I had the same issue on my Toshiba Portege (with an external keyboard - haven't tried the internal kb yet). From memory, I had to add a couple of xmodmap statements to /etc/profile. -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 ___ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linuxworld London
-- Jonobacon wrote: > So, I am proposing we meet in the .org village on Wed 25th Oct at > 2.30pm. > Can anyone make it along? I shall do my damnedest and, living in London, I don't have many excuses for not attending! Ash -- "We do not inherit the earthhttp://backtobreath.com/ from our ancestors; ...--__@ we borrow it from our children" --- _\<,_ -- Antoine de St. Exupery (_) (_) Reg. user: Linux #390621 Ubuntu #7291 ___ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
