Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test
Doubtful - I understood every word :D Kev doug livesey wrote: Wow. Were you a scriptwriter on Yes, Minister? ;) 2009/3/20 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com 2009/3/20 Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com mailto:rowan.berke...@googlemail.com: Many servers think that gmail and googlemail are two different things, so if your emailer sends out your return address as googlemail and you personally send it out as gmail, this can cause problems. That's not the servers fault, but googles. Anyone who signed up for a Google Mail account before the court case in which it was revealed GMail was a trademark held by another company would have an @gmail account. Those who registered after would have an @googlemail account. The problem comes in that google still accept mail addressed to @gmail to people with @googlemail accounts. However when people with @googlemail accounts send email it appears to come from @googlemail and not @gmail. This means that people with @googlemail accounts believe falsely that they have a @gmail account. So they sign up for mailing lists (like this one) as foo@gmail.com mailto:foo@gmail.com and then wonder why their mail to the list bounces because they're not subscribed. The reason being that mailman will send the confirmation mail to @gmail but any mails the user sends to the list will appear to come from @googlemail and as such mailman spits it out complaining that the @googlemail is not subscribed to that mailing list. In my mind that's googles fault for not educating the users about their address and the implications of having an @googlemail account, and not rejecting @gmail mail for @googlemail accounts. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Truly, a vanilla install
Firefox is a metapackage - whatever the exact description of that entails I know not. I just think of metapackages as boxes with other 'stuff' in - not very technical but it get's me by :) - similarly ubuntu-desktop (and kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop) are metapackages. Firefox-3.0 is actually the firefox app and it has it's dependencies. Kev Tony Arnold wrote: Rowan, Rowan Berkeley wrote: It makes it sound as if I can't be bothered to read the help notes before taking up people's time, which is not the case. I was just tired. I have read the help notes now, and it seems that solid colour in the icon boxes means a package is broken, and that 'complete removal' means the removal of the principal package and all its dependencies. However, it isn't always completely obvious which one the principal item is. No, removal of a package will remove all the files installed for that package but it will leave any configuration files behind. Complete removal will remove the configuration files as well. Getting rid of dependencies is separate. I just tried removing package 'firefox' and no dependencies were affected. I then tried removing 'firefox-3.0' and 5 or so dependencies were also marked for removal. It was the same set for removal and complete-removal. Maybe someone else can explain this behaviour. Regards, Tony. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Truly, a vanilla install
And because I forgot - while complete removal will remove the configuration files as well it doesn;t to my knowledge deal with any personal configs in your home directory Kev Kev wrote: Firefox is a metapackage - whatever the exact description of that entails I know not. I just think of metapackages as boxes with other 'stuff' in - not very technical but it get's me by :) - similarly ubuntu-desktop (and kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop) are metapackages. Firefox-3.0 is actually the firefox app and it has it's dependencies. Kev Tony Arnold wrote: Rowan, Rowan Berkeley wrote: It makes it sound as if I can't be bothered to read the help notes before taking up people's time, which is not the case. I was just tired. I have read the help notes now, and it seems that solid colour in the icon boxes means a package is broken, and that 'complete removal' means the removal of the principal package and all its dependencies. However, it isn't always completely obvious which one the principal item is. No, removal of a package will remove all the files installed for that package but it will leave any configuration files behind. Complete removal will remove the configuration files as well. Getting rid of dependencies is separate. I just tried removing package 'firefox' and no dependencies were affected. I then tried removing 'firefox-3.0' and 5 or so dependencies were also marked for removal. It was the same set for removal and complete-removal. Maybe someone else can explain this behaviour. Regards, Tony. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Truly, a vanilla install
I was talking more generally - not mozilla specific Kev Sean Miller wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Kev ubu...@talktalk.net wrote: And because I forgot - while complete removal will remove the configuration files as well it doesn;t to my knowledge deal with any personal configs in your home directory I don't think plug-ins get installed in the home directory, do they? If so, then it presumably would be easy to ditch them... just an rm -rf .mozilla or whatever the directory is... next time Firefox starts it can re-configure itself back to default. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Adding a second hard drive
You can use the livecd to reinstall grub, or supergrub - easily accomplished either way. If you are though just using xp to run sage will running it in a virtual machine be sufficient - if that was the case you could run xp inside ubuntu and not need to worry - just a thought Kev Howard Berry wrote: Hello All, I have been quite happy using Ubuntu so that I decided to get rid of XP . This was precipitated by the fact that I was also running out of disk space. Now I have been given some work to do using Sage and Microsaft Office. So I will have to put XP back. I have bought another hard drive and propose to move the current drive with Ubuntu on to the subsiduary bay so that I can install Windows where it will be happiest on the first hard drive. What I want to know is how I can get Ubuntu to put a new GRUB on the first hard drive without having to re install Ubuntu. Will I need to get rid of the old GRUB MBR? I suppose there is info somewhere on this, but you may be able to give me the griff straight away! Thanks, Howard Berry -- Supporting Open Source Software. http://www.fsf.org/ And Open Standards http://www.oasis-open.org/who/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing over Failed Upgrades
I would install with a cd - overwriting the existing buntu partitions - backup your data - which I assume you do anyway :) With the livecd - pick manual when it gets to the partitioning, you can then choose which to use - I think the alternate cd allows you to pick partitions. Ian Pascoe wrote: Folks Many moons ago one of my boxes failed to upgrade from 7.01 to 7.10 properly - the Ubuntu installation runs OK-ish, but with extremely unpredictable results; not really surprising. This box is a dual boot with XP, for which it is primarily used at the moment. I'd like to install 8.04 in the place of the cracked Ubuntu installation. What is the recommended way of doing this? Note that the cracked installation has no connectivity to the outside world so any changes needs to be done from CD; the terminal bombs out unexpectedly so cannot be relied on at present; network manager reports that there are no NICs installed - no wi-fi cards on this desktop. Thanks Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] A thank you and a quiery....
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=defaultsection=allarch=anysearchon=nameskeywords=lightning-extension Should find it for you - it should be in Universe - but if you've searched for lightening then it won't find it Kev Simon Wears wrote: Load up add/remove programs, then next to the search bar at the top is a drop menu. Click that, and change it to all avaliable applications, and search for Lightening again. Sorry if you've already tried that! On 13 Feb 2009, at 11:39, John jake...@sky.com wrote: Simon Wears wrote: Hi John Check the Lightening website for a .deb download - .deb files are basically installers for Debian based systems (such as Ubuntu). I just went on the website to have a look for a link for you, but when I click download (even on the linux version) it redirects me to the Windows download (currently on a Windows laptop). Not too sure about the addon though. Cheers, -- Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com | http://MunkyJunky.com Hi, thank you all for your messages. I have tried everything that you have posted but when I try install, nothing. I looked in the Repositories, and Lightening isnt in there, at least I cant find it, so looked on the site, and that is where it wont install from. I really need this to work, as I rely on my calendar, my memory is not good. I will keep trying though. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] A thank you and a quiery....
I've lost the old e-mails - what version are you running - do you have universe enabled ? The link I gave goes back to gutsy Kev John wrote: Hi, thank you for the quick reply. I have that in front of me now, and it says No matching Application Available. That's what I have been getting. :( John Simon Wears wrote: Load up add/remove programs, then next to the search bar at the top is a drop menu. Click that, and change it to all avaliable applications, and search for Lightening again. Sorry if you've already tried that! On 13 Feb 2009, at 11:39, John jake...@sky.com mailto:jake...@sky.com wrote: Simon Wears wrote: Hi John Check the Lightening website for a .deb download - .deb files are basically installers for Debian based systems (such as Ubuntu). I just went on the website to have a look for a link for you, but when I click download (even on the linux version) it redirects me to the Windows download (currently on a Windows laptop). Not too sure about the addon though. Cheers, -- Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com mailto:munkyju...@gmail.com | http://MunkyJunky.com Hi, thank you all for your messages. I have tried everything that you have posted but when I try install, nothing. I looked in the Repositories, and Lightening isnt in there, at least I cant find it, so looked on the site, and that is where it wont install from. I really need this to work, as I rely on my calendar, my memory is not good. I will keep trying though. John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 8.04 Audio Problems
tab cycles between playback, capture and all not sure what it was like in 8.04 - can't remember - but if you only get one pulseaudi slider try alsamixer -Dhw Kev mac wrote: mike daniels wrote: Having downloaded Skype, I cant get my mic to work. I have looked at the uk forum, and no suggested solutions work. Is there an input mixer for 8.04, if so, how do I find it. Dell are unhelpful, my preloaded 1525 was supplied with a Microsoft Windows setup guide which is a bit silly for an 8.04 machine. Can anyone assist with 8.04 audio problems please, video and cd playouts are ok, its input, mic problem, that needs to be resolved please. Thanks, Michael Can't remember exactly at the moment, but isn't there something to do with input in 'alsamixer' (type in terminal for adjustment screen)? mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] MBR
No you can have OS's installed on a number of hdds and grub will multiple boot them all Kev Dave Morley wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 12:55 +, Jamie Pow wrote: Hi Guys, This may sound like a silly question but will the GRUB boot loader only allow you to configure to dual boot if multiple OS's are installed on the one HDD. Regards, Jai Yeap :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using an Nvidia MX440
Oh - sorry - I didn't even look at it :( tbh I think I was mucking about with it helping someone on the forums - that xorg was my working one with TV out etc before I changed my card and was using the 96.43.09-0ubuntu1.1 driver. Kev Steve Baugh wrote: Kev, Thanks for your xorg file. I noticed it uses the 'nv' driver and I am trying to get the version 96 driver going but it will give me a guide. I noticed some other posts about this card on this list so I will let you all know how I get on. Thanks again, Steve On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 21:23 +, piskie wrote: xorg attached I hope - if not I'll post it it's the one I was using when I had the card - pretty sure that when I had the card I was caught up in all that Michael alludes to - I know I had to use proposed at the time to get it. I looked at my nvidia thread - I think that in the end I did a clean install and it worked for me, this was the issue I had with it to start with - but that was when the driver was beta still http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1827368postcount=1 Kev Steve Baugh wrote: Michael, Kev, Thanks for your comments and pointing me to the bug report. I am using Intrepid 32 bit. The bug report mentions a number of xorg.conf tweaks so that could be it. I would be interested to see your xorg.conf, Kev. The following comes up a lot: Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True There was a warning about a missing section in xorg.conf when I activated the driver so that may be it. Thanks again (I do miss compiz!), Steve On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 18:40 +, Michael Wood wrote: Yes I have, What version of Ubuntu are you running on the second PC ? There were problems with Intrepid because of the new Xorg server and nvidia not having released a driver that was compatiable with it, though this is mostly resolved now: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/251107 2009/1/30 Steve Baugh stephen.bau...@ntlworld.com I have two Ubuntu systems, this one using an Nvidia 8400 quite successfully and anther one which is only used for my Amateur Radio activities. The second PC has an Nvidia MX440 in an AGP slot. The 2D nv driver works OK but I would like to be able to run programs using OpenGL. To this end I downloaded the version 96 driver from the repository and activated it. I then found that the programs I run under Wine had their menu text scrambled and when I enabled desktop effects pop-up windows and Screenlets were blank. I have now deactivated it. Has anybody managed to get 3D working with this card? Steve, Bracknell -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ plain text document attachment (xorg) Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelName COMPAQ S710 HorizSync 30.0 - 70.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 VendorName Unknown ModelName TV-0 HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 Option metamodes CRT: 1280x1024 +0+0; CRT: 1024x768 +0+0; CRT: 800x600 +0+0; CRT: 640x480 +0+0 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Videocard1 MonitorMonitor1 DefaultDepth24 Option metamodes TV: nvidia-auto-select +0+0 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1600x1200 1280x1024 1024x768 800x600 640x480 EndSubSection EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Loaddri LoadGLcore EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 Below Screen1 Screen 1 Screen1 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0
