Re: [ubuntu-uk] £7 laptop in india - runs Linux
"$10-laptop proves to be a damp squib" http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Hyderabad/10-laptop_proves_to_be_a_damp_squib/articleshow/4072417.cms Picture here http://i.gizmodo.com/5145998/indias-10-laptop-basically-a-big-dumb-joke 2009/2/10 David King > From listening to a recent PC Pro podcast, this £7 "laptop" is not a > laptop at all, but just an external storage device of some kind to > attach to existing computers. > > Whatever it is, it will probably have an embedded OS based on Linux. > > But please do not believe everything you read in the Daily Mail. > > > David King > > > > > Paul Sutton wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Yay > > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1134609/India-set-launch-worlds-cheapest-laptop--7.html > > > > Paul > > - -- > > Paul Sutton > > www.zleap.net > > Support Open and ISO standard file formats ISO 26300 odf > > http://www.odfalliance.org > > Next Linux User Group meet : March 7th : 3pm, Shoreline Cafe Paignton > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAkmQl6gACgkQaggq1k2FJq0toACdHneha2M68D86o77VX+aiRXxk > > ZaAAnjylmJHCTeouiPZyz/xDZ6HBh86N > > =El/U > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Program Development
A quick search on google returned http://www.subversionary.org/howto/setting-up-a-subversion-server-on-ubuntu-gutsy-gibbon-server http://fumblingwithlife.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/getting-netbeans-60-to-work-with-subversion-on-ubuntu-gutsy/ 2008/12/25 Jai Harrison > Hey everyone, > > Happy holidays! > > I downloaded Netbeans 6.5 but haven't really looked at it yet. The > next thing I need to work out how to do is set up version control with > it. I don't really mind what I use (CVS, SVN, Git) so long as I can > set it up and use it with Netbeans easily (preferably a guide aimed at > Ubuntu users if anyone has any links). > > Jai > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Stephen Garton > wrote: > > 2008/12/24 Renjith Nair : > >> Hi Jai, > >> > >> Eclipse is still a good bet for all these requirements if you are > developing > >> in Java. I am not so sure about the PHP support as i haven't used > eclipse > >> for editing php. If your are using Subversion Plugin and the necessary > >> connectors for it, it won't be much difficult to hook it to a local svn > >> server (Do 'apt-get install subversion' in ubuntu to install > subversion). > >> Eclipse autocompletion is also good. If you feel the configurations of > >> eclipse are cumbersome, try Netbeans ( > http://www.netbeans.org/index.html) > >> which has got php,Java support and much easier to configure. > >> > >> hope this helps > >> > >> Regards, > >> renjith > >> > >> 2008/12/24 Jai Harrison > >>> > >>> Hey fellow Ubuntu users, > >>> > >>> I have recently been trying to work out how to do a number of things > >>> involved in programming on my machine. What I would like is version > >>> control along with different revision comparisons and possibly (not > >>> essential but nice to have) auto completion. I tend to develop in PHP > >>> and Java at the moment and have always previously used Eclipse for > >>> Java and gEdit for PHP. > >>> > >>> Eclipse works well for Java development however I've been unable to > >>> get version control to work inside it (namely because I've had trouble > >>> trying to get a local SVN instance to work). PHP development I'm not > >>> so sure about using it for - I've looked at Eclipse PDT but it seems a > >>> bit excessive for what I want and I found myself getting lost in the > >>> interface. > >>> > >>> So to summarise: > >>> > >>> - Version Control > >>> - Revision Comparisons > >>> - PHP and Java > >>> - Autocompletion (not essential but nice to have) > >>> > >>> Anyone have any experience in applications to meet these requirements? > >>> > >>> Jai > >>> > >>> -- > >>> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > >> > >> > > > > My vote also goes for netbeans. 6.1 is in the repositories (i think), > > but I downloaded 6.5 from their site for php, and it works like a > > dream > > > > > > Steve Garton > > http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Program Development
Hi Jai, Eclipse is still a good bet for all these requirements if you are developing in Java. I am not so sure about the PHP support as i haven't used eclipse for editing php. If your are using Subversion Plugin and the necessary connectors for it, it won't be much difficult to hook it to a local svn server (Do 'apt-get install subversion' in ubuntu to install subversion). Eclipse autocompletion is also good. If you feel the configurations of eclipse are cumbersome, try Netbeans (http://www.netbeans.org/index.html) which has got php,Java support and much easier to configure. hope this helps Regards, renjith 2008/12/24 Jai Harrison > Hey fellow Ubuntu users, > > I have recently been trying to work out how to do a number of things > involved in programming on my machine. What I would like is version > control along with different revision comparisons and possibly (not > essential but nice to have) auto completion. I tend to develop in PHP > and Java at the moment and have always previously used Eclipse for > Java and gEdit for PHP. > > Eclipse works well for Java development however I've been unable to > get version control to work inside it (namely because I've had trouble > trying to get a local SVN instance to work). PHP development I'm not > so sure about using it for - I've looked at Eclipse PDT but it seems a > bit excessive for what I want and I found myself getting lost in the > interface. > > So to summarise: > > - Version Control > - Revision Comparisons > - PHP and Java > - Autocompletion (not essential but nice to have) > > Anyone have any experience in applications to meet these requirements? > > Jai > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Intrepid Release Parties]
Although i am a silent member in this community, this may be an ideal opportunity for me to meet other members. Moreover, the venue is not far from my office. See you all there.. Regards, renjith 2008/10/7 Josh Blacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > On 6 Oct 2008, at 23:13, John Levin wrote: > > > LeeGroups wrote: > >>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Ellis Corbie Riley > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Just saw this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ > >>> IntrepidReleaseParties#Europe > >>> > >>> Can i safely assume we will be at Waxy O'Connors and not De Hems > >>> then? > >>> > >>> > >>> --Michael > >> I was just wondering that myself. Then it occured that they are > >> only a > >> couple of streets apart, so I was planning to attend both :) > >> > >> Though it would be nice to know which one is the 'official' venue... > >> > >> Lee > >> > >> > > > > As Kat Kinnie has organized it, I presume it's the official > > Ubuntu/Canonical party. > > > > John > > > > -- > > John Levin > > http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > Last year was pretty good - see you all again soon! > > All the best, > Josh Blacker > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
>From your reply it seems the first RAM module or PSU may be faulty. Last year i had a similar problem with my system. I did memtests, cpuburndown tests etc. None of the logs gave any clue about what was going on . Then in one of the forums i found that somebody got around the problem by disabling Nvideo proprietary drivers. I did the same and it worked. I don't know whether your problem is the same, but after that fix my computer never froze or crashed (touch wood). Regards, Renjith 2008/10/1 Seif Attar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > me again, it crashed, so it's not the graphics card, and the noapic > didn't fix it, the last crash happened while I was installing stuff with > synaptic, nothing in the logs. > > After the crash I pressed the reset button, and then it froze while the > grub menu was showing, restarted, it froze after I selected an entry > from the grub and the text "Starting Up" was showing and nothing > happened, in the past I had to completely turn off the pc and unplug it > from electricity in order to have it boot normally again (this weird > freeze on reboot after crash doesn't always happen, could be that I only > notice it when I am working on the machine when the crash occurs, maybe > when it happens while I am away, whatever overheated has cooled down, or > whatever capacitor had gone fubar had released it's electricity? cpu > temp was 55c after the crash), so yesterday I removed the first RAM, > tried to boot it, it froze again, then I removed the second ram and it > booted normally, so I am now testing it with only 1 piece of ram, if it > still crashes, I'll try the PSU, but my friend keeps forgetting to bring > it! maybe tomorrow. Another thing I noticed yesterday, is that after I > force the computer to shutdown (holding the power button), the num lock > indicator on my keyboard is still on, even though the computer is > shutdown. Checked the bios setting to make sure I haven't enabled > key-press power on, and it's not enabled. > > Sorry for posting so much about this, I realise this is not Ubuntu > related any more (probably and hopefully), but I have no where to go, > and I imagine that if I take it to a hardware specialist that he will > want an OS that he is more comfortable with. > > > Peace, > Seif A. > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to change hdd/partition numbering
These links may be of help although i personally support Kris's comments.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246506 (Some ideas about changing the name for USB HD, the technique is similar for normal hard disk too) http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Partition.html ( Linux partition Guide) Regards, Renjith On 23/01/2008, Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 23/01/2008, Vitorio Okio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've deleted with GParted unwanted Dell Utility partition sited the > first > > on my HDD. This partition was set as /dev/sda1, so all others followed > > correspondignly: /dev/sda2, /dev/sda3, etc. > > > > Now after deleting and booting back in Ubuntu my now first partition is > > still marked as /dev/sda2. And all others follow. > > > > How can I change this? I would like my first partition being set /dev/ > > sda1, etc.? > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > That's the FSTAB mount points, I don't know if the OS would like these > being changed, as GRUB bases its boot on these mount points... I'm not > sure, anybody else? > > -- > Kris Douglas > Softdel Limited Hosting Services > Web: www.softdel.net > Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] how to check my kernel?
If you want to check the kernel version then use the following command in your terminal uname -a or do you want to check the kernel for any errors? On Nov 20, 2007 5:14 PM, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Is there an easy way to check my kernel? > > regards > Javad > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] wifi mini-survey
Wireless can be on the desktop too :-) I use Ubuntu on my laptops and also on a desktop ( With WIFI) Wireless : Centrino based chipset ( laptops) Edimax 7318 USg (desktop) ESSID Broadcast: Yes Encryption: WPA & WEP ( different networks) Ren On Nov 8, 2007 5:24 PM, Mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Friends >>> Following the surprisingly few responses to some recent > questions about wifi, I'm beginning to wonder how many of us are > actually using Ubuntu wirelessly on laptops. > > So here's a quick poll: > > Do you use Ubuntu on a laptop + wifi? > > And, if you do, do you use > > no encryption / WEP / WPA / WPA2 > > with ESSID broadcast / hidden? > > > Mac > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] News Item- Low Cost PC/ Motherboard running on Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy)
Hello Everyone, Good morning ! Some of you may have already seen this newsitem on slashdot. It is a welcome sign that ubuntu is being considered as the operating system of their choice by various manufacturers :-) *Low Cost PC/ Motherboard running on Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) with the lightweight Enlightenment window manager instead of KDE/GNOME* Slashdot Story: http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/11/07/2036249.shtml "hardware hacking enthusiasts can now get their hands on the guts of the Everex TC2502 Linux PC for just $60 (USD). The compact x86-compatible "gOS Dev Board" offers a lightweight Linux-based OS designed for use with Google Apps" Original Link : http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5305482907.html Currently it is available from a US retailer namely ClubIT but they are not accepting International orders. Is there any similar product available in UK? Regards, Renjith -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Profile
I believe the argument is not whether windows is easier than linux or vice versa. That is common man's opinion about linux since he/she expects everything to behave like windows. Everything which behaves differently from Windows is considered to be 'difficult' because they are only used to using windows. Let us face the reality. We all know that the incompatibility of drivers in linux is due to the manufacturers not providing drivers and that is the sad fact. I agree that if linux-box distribution like Tesco's is going to be adopted, there won't be much of a driver Issue. But things haven't reached that level yet.. How many computers do you find in the stores with pre-installed linux? Tesco's computers are just the first step. So is the Dell distribution. Till we start influencing the market, the manufacturers won't release linux drivers. So how this can be done? It is actually by increasing the use of linux in the community. I guess we don't have different opinions regarding this. So basically it boils down to a point, how we can make more people use linux? Getting pre installed linux box hasn't been widely happening. Till this happens, we need to support these cards, irrespective of manufacturers attitude towards linux. Atleast we support hardware from the common manufacturers. Gutsy is the right step in doing that. But we still are far from solving the problems. Most of the times, solving any of these driver issues need technical knowledge. This is not what we can expect from average users. Why don't we release patches/scripts for solving atleast some of these problems ? Let me put it this way, users will be happy to download and execute a patch/ driver file rather than tinkering with the configurations. don't you think so? Patches won't be an answer for all problems, but still it will make life better for average users. Remember that normal user is not technically capable like us. They need simpler solutions. We have forums to help in solving these issues.. But most of the time, it is very technical and so common people won't understand. I would be happy to help people in solving some of these issues. But i am not expert in every issue. If we ( ubuntu community of UK) can put in some resources in terms of manpower (some free time) and knowledge, i am sure than we can influence at least few people in adopting linux. May be i will quote Tesco's slogan for this "Every little helps" :-) regards, renjith On 10/29/07, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think we are actually agreeing. The start of this particular line of > conversation was somebody saying that Linux wasn't doing enough to make > installation of wireless cards simple and reliable... my point was that most > of the cards that I am using now appear to work pretty much "out of the box" > in Gutsy (and with some in Feisty, Edgy etc.) so I don't need to do the > whole ndiswrapper thing... > > In fact, when I reinstalled my old laptop which had died for some years > after an unfortunate incident with a glass of wine and a fizzing motherboard > (!) I discovered that whilst Gutsy works 100% well straight away Windows XP > does anything but, arguing that the graphics card isn't the one it's > expecting but offering no advice on fixing it other than a "Browse" and a > suggestion to insert some sort of driver CD. > > How's that helpful? > > It makes me think that if Windows users actually had to occasionally > install their own OS they'd find Windows was significantly harder to make > work than Linux - it's therefore all a myth this concept that Windows is > "easy"... it's only "easy" because the "norm" is to buy a pre-installed PC ! > > > Sean > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Profile
Hi David, You are not the only one with wireless issues on Ubuntu. I have helped several people to get their wireless working on Ubuntu.. After several hours of tweaking when it finally start working, they make a statement that ' it is so easy to do this stuff in windows' . Linux users may not necessarily agree with this statement, but for an average person this is so true. Wireless networking is an issue which needs some sorting out from main developers in ubuntu. I would say that they have done quite well in supporting some of the wireless cards, but still there are some gaps to be filled in . Some of the USB wireless cards especially with Ralink chipsets are having some problems in Ubuntu. You may need third party drivers ( for e.g serialmonkey drivers) to get it running. Even after that, you may experience some problems regarding the ehci_hcd support (module for USB 2.0) . This hasn't been sorted out yet and this is an area we need to focus on. If we can't support the common man, ubuntu will not succeed. Before thinking a lot about advertisements (TV, BBC, Newspaper) we need to sort out these basic issues or atleast make the main developers/ bug-solvers to look into this matter. If you look into the forums, you can see that these are ongoing problems for the past releases too and it was never solved completely, even though there has been some progress. To have said this, we need to also understand that Ubuntu cannot support all wireless cards available in the market as it is a herculian task. But atleast we make sure that the commonly available cards like Belkin, Linksys, Netgear, edimax etc are supported. We can't just blame the manufacturers for not making the linux drivers and leave issues like that. We need solutions for this problem. All persons won't buy boxes from Tesco and so it is necessary that we have to support the commonly available wireless cards, even if the manufacturer is not supporting Linux. Difficult task to achieve .. but that is the way forward. If the number of linux users increase, the manufacturers will be forced to use their resources to make them compatible with linux. I agree to this statement from davis "It does not matter how good the distro is, without the internet, email and printing, the operating system has little value" Regards, renjith On 10/29/07, davisjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I like Ubuntu, I think it is the best distro and the highest quality. > > I would also like to see the profile of Ubuntu raised in the market place > but feel there are some issues in Ubuntu that need addressing. > > I have attended night school to learn Ubuntu basics but still cannot get > my wireless card to work or print something of any value. Mandriva has been > the easiest to configure with a wireless card. > > Windows, whether we like it or not is simple. I have read all the info in > the Wiki about connecting wirelss cards etc but to no avail. I am doing > something wrong but in the absence of friends etc, how do I resolve this > problem ? > > I would prefer Ubuntu to resolve the problems of connectivety even if that > means a small charge for each distro to cover the cost of commercial > software.Or maybe reduced charge telephone support for home users. > > It does not matter how good the distro is, without the internet, email and > printing, the operating system has little value. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
