Re: [ubuntu-uk] Can't move panels, oh, and why does Firefox crash so much?

2009-07-06 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 04/07/09 10:40, Paul Webster wrote:
 Also, does anyone else find that Firefox 3 0 11 freezes rather often? It
 is then hard to shut down, despite using the Force Quit button. It seems
 to quit, but when I try to restart it, it claims to be still running and
 a restart of the computer is said to be the solution. In fact it can be
 forced to shut down in System Monitor.

I have had the freezing problem - and narrowed it down to being caused
by pages using flash. The problem was there when I upgraded to 9.04, but
seems to have gone away since I started using Kubuntu. the workaround
for me was to never close a tab that had flash content in it if I didn't
want Firefox to hang.

I was always suspicious that it was a sound related problem as I could
not get sound in flash (that broke for me in 8.10), but that seems to
have magically fixed itself and perhaps due to my using Kubuntu.

Unfortunately I haven't had time to dig into it more than that though.

As for the 'hard to shut down' problem, when I experience that symptom I
find that after a few minutes the Firefox process does quit. In my case
it's because Firefox has eaten up a lot of RAM/Swap so I think that it
(or the kernel) is freeing up that memory before the Firefox process
actually exits. This is quite hard disk intensive so my hard drive
indicator flashes continuously whilst this happens. Sometimes I get
bored and 'kill' it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Last Barrier!

2009-06-10 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 10/06/09 09:05, alan c wrote:
 1) please consider letting garmin *know* that you have a preference
 for Ubuntu. They have a busy life and will otherwise find it
 convenient to continue ignoring Ubuntu


I did contact Garmin about Ubuntu support for a GPS sports watch I use
but didn't really get much encouragement - it would be nice to think
that my request went further than customer services, but I doubt it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband and hosting reccomendations

2009-06-04 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 04/06/09 10:28, Rob Beard wrote:
 That matches what I've heard about Pipex and Tiscalli, IIRC Nildram and 
 possibly Freedom 2 Surf are owned by them too.  Shame really as years 
 ago Pipex were one of the good ISPs.


It's all a bit complicated isn't it?

I'm a happy Nildram customer and have been for about 6 years now.
They're now owned by Talk Talk though (was Pipex, then Tiscali).
Thankfully I've never noticed a reduction in the quality of service
(either hardware or human) throughout those changes.

http://www.talktalk.co.uk/tiscali/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unlock SSH key on login

2009-06-02 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 02/06/09 08:48, Stephen Garton wrote:
 on my work machine I either have to enter my
 passphrase everytime I use ssh, or run ssh-add (and entering my
 passphrase) after I log on. It was working fine on intrepid, but stopped
 after the upgrade.


No solution I'm afraid, but a show of solidarity: I'm in the same boat -
I had assumed it was because I'd also switched to using KDE.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu stickers!

2009-06-01 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 01/06/09 05:30, mac wrote:
 Michael Douglas wrote:
 Of course, the 'traditional' netiquette is to *edit* what you're 
 replying to (rather than just including tens or hundreds of lines of an 
 ever-expanding thread) so that there is just enough context to make your 
 reply comprehensible.


+1

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] KDE Konqueror problem

2009-05-26 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 26/05/09 15:17, Kevin Frost wrote:
 I now constantly get a Connection to Server Refused page with additionally 
 myonlineaccounts2.abbeynational.co.uk: SSL negotiation failed


I can at least confirm that I get the same problem. I cannot offer a
workaround beyond the obvious Firefox suggestion.

I am doubtful that this is a bug in Konqueror - rather that it is a
firewall setting at the Abbey end - so maybe try contacting your bank.

Good luck!

Funnily enough I have literally just a few minutes ago set my mail
preferences to 'digest' as the message volume seems to be increasing and
I don't seem to have much input on any of the topics.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Work Experience

2009-04-19 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Josh Holland wrote:
| I would like to ask if any
| Midlands-based companies would be able to take me on for work
| experience related to computers this summer.


It might be worth posting this on the UK LUG jobs list:

https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs

Good luck with the hunt!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and a Great Grandma. A great story.

2009-04-15 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 15/04/09 11:57, Philip Wyett wrote:
 True enough, it can. Was having a self PEBHAC moment, but now can let
 myself off. :-)

[snip]

 I'm going back to bed to get up and start over. Two keys out on that
 PEBKAC even. :-D


I did wonder, then assumed you were using a 'Handset' and I'd missed
this new abbreviation.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joiku wireless connection......

2009-03-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 25/03/09 09:55, Alan Pope wrote:
 2009/3/25 John jake...@sky.com:
 I bet he was surprised when you said hi, lol.

 
 She was :)
 
 Conversation with a...@macintosh-6 at Tue 24 Feb 2009 18:32:03 GMT on
 po...@mother (bonjour)


Social networking for the win.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Test

2009-03-20 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 20/03/09 14:05, Sean Miller wrote:
 On another list we set a rule that if you wanted to send a test
 message you had to quote something inspirational, as please ignore
 this test is just so 1990s.
 
 Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what
 parents were created for. - Ogden Nash


Inspirational words indeed with Mother's Day looming large.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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mac wrote:
| Oh, dear.  Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory???


The Tories are so 1980s.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
| [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this
| subject before someone uses the N word... :oP


Novell?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)

2009-01-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Tony Travis wrote:
| Stephen O'Neill wrote:
| Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
| | [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this
| | subject before someone uses the N word... :oP
|
|
| Novell?
|

[snip]

| We should be glad
| to hear that people of *ALL* political persuasions are now interested in
| using Ubuntu


Oh of course, absolutely agreed - I don't think that my being facetious
carried particularly well over email.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up Article WhatPC - Ubuntu Revolutiion

2009-01-14 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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alan c wrote:
| WhatPC have a good article titled
| 'Join the Linux Revolution'.
[snip]
|
http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-world/features/2233831/join-linux-revolution-4257166

It looks like it might have originated from PCW magazine going by that
url. If that's the case then their 'intended audience' seems to be
'business' with a heavy Microsoft focus in a lot of the articles. The
articles do seem a bit dumbed down in places, I think they're just
trying to reach as wide a demographic as possible.

Something like a couple of years ago they introduced a 'Hands on Linux'
column and the guy that writes that seems to have use cases that are
Ubuntu oriented more than any other distro.

So things are definitely moving in the right direction in the media in
my opinion.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Teacher claims Linux 'holding back the kids'

2008-12-16 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 16/12/08 13:02, Robert Flatters wrote:
 The Teacher should have stop and thought about what he said. You cannot
 come out with such a thing when its a know fact there is more OS than
 just Windows.


It cannot be assumed that all people know all things. The teacher in
question couldn't be assumed to know and understand what 'free software'
is - I think that was a part of the problem.

The follow-up blog post was useful and interesting.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Free Laptops

2008-11-14 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 14/11/08 08:04, Sean Miller wrote:
 I agree with this, but surely rather than support folks who are
 charging over the market price for machines we should be encouraging
 the major players to provide just that - laptops without Vista?


Whether the machine is overpriced depends on more factors than the raw
numbers on paper - build quality, component quality, service and even
ethical concerns carry different weight for different people. That is
why I say it is unfair to immediately say that the Tesco machines are
better value.

What the retailers mentioned in this thread have done is said here's
our standard pricing model, and here's it reduced by the value of a
Windows license.

Tesco haven't done that.

You can obviously choose to pay for the Tesco machine, that is perfectly
valid. However what would make more sense would be to write to Tesco and
point out that what you perceive to be a competitively priced machine is
still over-priced because it comes with a £50 license that you won't
use, and can they please come up with new ranges to take account of that.

You may still choose to buy the machine with the license, but if you
don't inform the retailer of your thoughts then you're still wasting money.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows Free Laptops

2008-11-13 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 14/11/08 06:51, Sean Miller wrote:
 What's the advantage of a laptop without an OS when for about £100
 less you can go to Tesco and get one WITH an OS of a better
 specification for about £100 less and just wipe the OS off and install
 Ubuntu anyway?


I see what you're saying, but you need to compare like with like -
whether cheaper systems in supermarkets represent good value compared to
traditional retailers is a different discussion.

In the context of this discussion the only fair comparison point is
ranges at a single retailer where discounts are offered when sold
without an OS.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Slightly OT: GeForce 4 MX support fixed?

2008-11-02 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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On 02/11/08 21:33, Dianne Reuby wrote:
 Here's a thread in the Ubuntu forum on this problem, marked solved :)
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960727


Otto42 is worth a read - though at least he did know when to stop
pressing his 'point'.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenOffice 3.0 repositories for Hardy

2008-10-21 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't understand why LTS release are just stuck on the back burner -
 what is the point of LTS if it's not going to be maintained and kept as
 current as possible for people investing in it.


It's interesting how you view the LTS release.

Personally I thought that the point of LTS was that you wouldn't keep up
to date with the latest version numbers, but patches for security/bugs
would be issued throughout the LTS timespan so that you end up with a
secure, stable and reliable platform without having to concern yourself
with managing incompatibilities with backported software.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Data only sim cards in the UK!

2008-10-07 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Javad Ayaz wrote:
 Does anyone know if there are any data only sim cards available in the UK?


Sorry Javad but I think that there are better places to ask this question.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?

2008-09-30 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Seif Attar wrote:
 any other suggestions on how to troubleshoot this? maybe benchmarking
 software for ubuntu?


My immediate suspicion is that your PSU isn't up to scratch. Try putting
in another or if you can't try removing superfluous hardware like drives
and cards.

That said, if memtest is always crashing at exactly the same point then
it perhaps isn't that.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: Intrepid Release Parties]

2008-09-30 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Colin McCarthy wrote:
 Is there a nerdy dress code for these events?  Do we have to wear a
 computer T-shirt from thinkgeek.com http://thinkgeek.com?


How else do you propose to get through security?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] Job hunting

2008-09-22 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
 I'm looking for a job that will make use of my Linux skills and enable  
 me to work towards becoming a Senior Solutions Architect.

Worth posting up to the Linux Jobs list hosted by lug.org.uk:

https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 12 Ubuntu Inspiron

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Tony Travis wrote:
 Ciao, Michael.
 
 È la versione Italiana ;-)


DO YOU SPEAK ENGLISH?

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC

2008-09-04 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7594249.stm

(sorry if this has already been posted)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC

2008-09-04 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Stephen O'Neill wrote:
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7594249.stm
 
 (sorry if this has already been posted)


I should have included contentious excerpts for those with things to do.

Ubuntu's own website isn't much help either. It suggests that with this
particular machine it can sometimes help to whip out the battery, give
it a couple of minutes, whack it back in, plug in an ethernet cable and
get on line first that way. Nada. 

and

It's probably worth mentioning one other important point about Linux
here. It's a text-based operating system, which means that a fair few of
the things you may want to tell your computer to do - installing certain
new software, for example - requires you to open up a terminal window
and actually type text into the little window.

It's a bit like the way all hackers in Hollywood movies furiously crash
out lines of incomprehensible text on their laptops when they're trying
to bust into the Pentagon's defence network.

As someone used solely to double-clicking on pretty pictures to do most
anything on a computer this is pretty hairy stuff. 

Discuss.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC

2008-09-04 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Stephen O'Neill wrote:
 I should have included contentious excerpts for those with things to do.


Sorry for the spam, I should contemplate before clicking 'send'.

A point that I agree with the author on is:

But I'm completely stumped by the instructions posted on these
[forums]. The level of assumed knowledge is way above my head. I follow
a couple of suggestions, try to connect to my router using an ethernet
cable, download code that promises to set things right. And fail. 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC

2008-09-04 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Sean Miller wrote:
 It actually annoys me when people misrepresent the situation so -
 installing from a terminal only happens in exceptional circumstances
 these days.


The BBC shouldn't be advocates, but should sit on the fence. Examples
like this and the scrolling bootup text aren't really sitting on the fence.

I did empathise with his line about knowledge being a barrier to entry,
hopefully that will be addressed naturally over time as the product matures.

It would be nice to see an alternative series of it's hard to do
articles - there are lots of things I find hard in Ubuntu, but there are
lots of things I find hard in Windows too which don't get airplay.

He noted how he wanted itunes-esque integration, well my g/f bought an
ipod thing at the weekend and I found iTunes to be largely non-intuitive
to use - certainly not the experience which the hype and his comments
would have had me believe.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting - BBC

2008-09-04 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Stephen O'Neill wrote:
 I did empathise with his line about knowledge being a barrier to entry,
 hopefully that will be addressed naturally over time as the product matures.


Obviously, before I'm jumped on, I forgot the whole argument about
Microsoft being de-facto standard in schools etc... and how MS would be
hard if it wasn't the fact we were given it to use from day zero.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop

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Mac wrote:
 So in my view the risk is not worth the expense.  I have had one or two 
 failures within the first year, and Dell have fixed them for free.  But 
 the *very* few things I've had to get fixed myself within the next three 
 years have cost me nothing like insurance premium Dell charge. 
 (Actually, the only thing I can think of is a NIC that cost less than a 
 tenner.)


I cannot speak for Dell.

My girlfriend bought a Samsung laptop in around 2003. Nothing went wrong
in the first year, then in years 2  3 a problem with the screen
connector kept recurring, the onboard power supply socket needed
replacing, and the external power supply connector needed replacing twice.

None of these were through abuse, more design flaws (or revenue
generating features).

Anyway, our lack of expertise meant our local computer shop did the
repairs, the total probably coming to something in the order of £300.
Additionally I have had to replace the hard drive for her too.

But laptops are so much cheaper nowadays - back then she paid £900 for
this machine and it was middle of the road spec - so you would need to
take into account the value of the machine you are buying.

Plus, as noted, I'm not speaking for Dell and Mac rates them as being
far more reliable :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Philip Wyett wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 09:32 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote:
 None of these were through abuse, more design flaws (or revenue
 generating features).


[snip]

Design flaws or revenue generating features are not a
 purposeful part of this companies products and great pride by what my
 colleagues and I saw in what they create was very evident.


Heh! Just for the record I was being facetious, so nobody sue me! ... my
day job pays me to be a programmer. I never write bugs, well not
intentionally anyway. I am sure that manufacturers wouldn't manufacture
defects on purpose either.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] WTB: Ubuntu Laptop

2008-09-03 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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LeeGroups wrote:
 Err, I'll have to disagree on that one, power connectors are designed to 
 connect power to a laptop.
 NOT to withstand being dragged around the living room/bedroom/etc or be 
 passed from person to person.
 There will always be a slight play in the connector and a year of being 
 'wiggled' with destroy either the plug/socket or the sockets mounting to 
 the motherboard/powerboard. Stick the laptop on a desk when it's being 
 charged and the connector will outlast the rest of the machine.


Erm, ok ... I could continue to argue the toss, but shalln't.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
 http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2008-09-01-n47.html


That link seems to have been ubuntu-uk-dotted, you can find the original
comic here:

http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] keyboards

2008-09-02 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Sean Miller wrote:
 What is quite useful is a wireless keyboard.  Got some Logitech one
 that is invaluable if giving presentations etc. where the laptop needs
 to be close to a projector and I'm in front.


A few places I have worked in have had those things, and wireless mice
... however whenever I needed to use them the batteries were running out
and everything seemed a bit haywire as a result.

Not my greatest anecdote, but there you go.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] transcriber question

2008-08-20 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Mac wrote:
 (None of the folk helping transcribe the podcasts having a problem with 
 playback speed in Transcriber?  It's be useful even to know that it's 
 just a problem here.)


Sorry Mac, no problems here... or at least not the last time I checked.

Are you using the ogg files? Do they playback fine in other apps?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] transcriber question

2008-08-20 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Mac wrote:
| Anyway, now I know it's working for you, and there's no obvious setting
| that you have to adjust, I'll clearly need to dig about a bit more to
| woek out what's going on.


Which episode and ogg file (high/low) are you using and I will give it a
bash ... we ought to be scientific about this :D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] transcriber question

2008-08-20 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Mac wrote:
| I've tried uupc_s01e11_high.ogg among others.  See what you think.


Hmmm... it seems to be fine for me. Does the 'cursor' position in the
bottom left of the spacebar hop along at double speed too?

I cannot see anything in the settings that would indicate playback rate.

Has it ever worked? Maybe try completely uninstalling transcriber,
trashing /etc/transcriber and reinstall...

I could have understood the problem if it were with the mp3, but not the
ogg. Have you tried the low res ogg, and the mp3s?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Age and gender

2008-08-07 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Lucy wrote:
 The people I know who use Linux and go to LUG meetings are anything
 from 16-70 (at a guess) year old males, with a few women in between.
 So there's certainly a large spread, but from my experience people
 tend to get involved at college/Uni or after retirement, when they
 have some free time.


I don't know any females, apart from perhaps my boss, that are
interested in any aspect of IT - let alone Linux.

My girlfriend is interested in gaming, but cares not for IT and
operating systems etc. She came to a LUG meeting with us once but only
because we were watching a video and it was in a pub that served good beer.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Norm's complaint

2008-08-06 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Mac wrote:
 BTW, has anyone else here hit this problem with the upgrade from Gutsy 
 (but 2.6.22-15 rather than 2.6.22-14) hanging at nearly the end of the 
 process while setting locales?


I wouldn't know - I have upgraded from Feisty-Gutsy-Hardy ... I had
problems after Hardy unfortunately but not a massive one like that which
you describe. I keep my machine patched so will have been at the tip of
each release at upgrade time.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's happened to the Podcast?

2008-08-05 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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John Levin wrote:
 Got to say, that was a really good listen. Open street map, *two* low 
 cost computers (and animals in the background) - what more could I want?


Cuddly toy? Chocolate-by-mail?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ADMIN] Meeting 13/08/08 @ 20:00 in #ubuntu-uk on irc

2008-08-04 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
 It'll happen in the #ubuntu-uk channel on IRC, during which time other 
 conversations and support questions will be directed elsewhere.


Is it ok to sign on and eavesdrop so to speak?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's happened to the Podcast?

2008-07-31 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Sean Miller wrote:
 Podcast activity has gone all quiet - is it on summer holiday or something?


They seem to fluctuate at between one and four week intervals thus far.
I daresay you're right that the summer holidays will slow things up
somewhat as well as the bug jam.

Are you eagerly awaiting the outcome of the last competition?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's happened to the Podcast?

2008-07-31 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 06:49 +0100, Sean Miller wrote:
 Podcast activity has gone all quiet - is it on summer holiday or something?
 
 As if by magic:-
 
 http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/07/31/s01e11-blowin-in-the-wind/


This whole thread was just a setup.

I am not amused.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Alfred Lakudzala has sent you a Desktopdating invitation

2008-07-31 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Colin McCarthy wrote:
 Humm probably not a link to click on at work :-)


No it's fine. Alicia (17) from Russia is just processing my card payment
as we speak, no problems so far. And she's fit.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug Day

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James Milligan wrote:
 but I don't really want to be talking about code


I think that it being a bug fixing day then you'd be out of luck!

It sounds like you're after a social event - I'm not sure what there is
to offer you in that realm, but starting with your local
http://lug.org.uk/ may be a good start?

Welcome to Ubuntu :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Win a free PC!

2008-07-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
 Listen to Episode 10 of the Ubuntu UK Podcast and you could win a fantastic 
 PC from Efficient PC that we reviewed in Episode 9. Just follow the 
 instructions in the competition segment and you could win a PC. Easy!


Congratulations on securing such a fantastic prize - hope that it brings
in a lot of new listeners!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox?

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Wulfy wrote:
 I removed my .mozilla directory in /home/wulfy.  Nothing in /etc, 
 /usr/bin, /usr/lib or /usr/share.

 I reinstall Firefox... I click on Tools/add-ons..  and there is a list 
 of all the add-ons I used to have waiting to be uninstalled when I 
 restart Firefox...


It looks like extensions in my setup go into the .mozilla directory.


 Does anyone have any idea what is happening?  Am I alone in having 
 problems like this?


Sorry Wulfy, never had issues like these - I have FF2 and FF3 side by
side. I can't see anything 'crazy' in what you're doing though if that
helps.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Dave Walker wrote:
 I used the 'transcriber' application that i previously mentioned.
 Although it has it's limitations (spelling didn't always work as
 expected), i did find it a really good application for this task.


I will give that a whirl - thanks.

 It's currently a branch under my launchpad area, and others can branch
 it with:
 $ bzr branch lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts
 (install bazaar if needed)


Hmmm, not sure about using version control... I'm a programmer so I'm
happy to use it but not sure if it would be a barrier to others. That
said we're only talking about a couple of commands here. Wikis do store
revision history so perhaps that will suffice... depends what extra
formats we want to store etc - guess that's a question for Al as he's
the customer.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using bzr, was: Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
  I hope we can 
 overcome any worries on that score with a comprehensive set of 
 documentation.


Sounds sensible. Give us a link when it's ready, and I presume this will
have a flag waving 'I'm transcribing' page on it.

Should be good fun :D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
  I will try
 transcribing a bit at the weekend and see how long it takes and then
 give you an answer!

 
 Excellent stuff. If you start with episode 1 then any work you do wont
 be in vain! (on the assumption nobody else has already started) :)


Ok, I'm not 'bagsying' an episode but I will work out whether it's
feasible for me to join the team and let you know :D
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Lucy wrote:
 Would it be worth splitting each podcast into 10 minute chunks? 


I did wonder about this too - I would definitely be able to pitch in if
it was one or two 10 minute chunks to transcribe each week.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

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Philip Stubbs wrote:
| Is there a wiki for this? Seems to me that a page where we can put our
| names against a show will be useful. I am a bit reluctant to pick an
| episode thinking that someone else may already be half way through it.
| Even worse, would be just about to finish, and then someone else gets
| there first.


Good idea ... plus we need a style guide - including things like talking
over, indicating pauses, saying who's speaking, stage directions etc.

I presume that plain text would be simplest to author, although XHTML or
XML will obviously be easier to reformat for different media.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC listen again service

2008-06-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Tony Arnold wrote:
 This fixed the problem. I had to disable the totem plugin by deleting
 /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/libtotem-complex* as both the
 RealPlayer plugin and the totem one want to handle real audio, and the
 totem one wins for some reason.


Thanks for this Tony - I was just trying to get the BBC realplayer stuff
working and had no sound, this worked for me.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Trade Newspaper 'Schools set to go open source'

2008-05-24 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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alan c wrote:
| The Computing  trade newspaper (print version) has a front page banner
| headline
| 'Schools set to go open source'
| and an associated article.
|
|
http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2217224/schools-set-open-source-4017531


Hi Alan,

Thanks for the link! I know we've discussed at length the issues
surrounding open source in schools before so I won't rake all that up.

However this would appear on the surface to be trying to address a
number of those issues, and coming from Becta has some chance of succeeding.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next 6-12 months. If
you notice any updates please let us know.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rules

2008-05-20 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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James Dalley wrote:
| PSS. Just thought of a way to end this, Hitler! :)


Excellent. I, for one, welcome the end to this thread.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rules

2008-05-18 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
| http://blog.dave.org.uk/2008/05/pointless-battles-for-geeks.html


I saw that from a LUG planet blog the other day... have to say that
sadly I'm very much inclined to agree.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!

2008-05-16 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Javad Ayaz wrote:
| i dont get what you mean by using the ADSL functionality?

Some routers have an ADSL modem built in ... one way to tell if this is
the case is to see if there is a socket on the router that the adsl
cable from the phone socket would fit into.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!

2008-05-16 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Javad Ayaz wrote:
| i can certainly trybut as a sidenote 3 machines have been connected
| to the network and worked fine ( internet browsingwise at least) !!!


If you were just browsing the Internet then this slow network issue
could very easily have existed and you just wouldn't have noticed.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!

2008-05-15 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Javad Ayaz wrote:
| i have copied some files over (4gb to be precise). The transfer rate im
| getting is 47.2 KB/sec at the mo.


Another problem I've had with Windows PCs before is that they silently
fall back to 10mbps on auto-neg if the router is improperly configured.
But even that is faster than you are describing.

However this command in 'buntu will give you clues:

$ sudo ethtool eth0

The good news in the output from mine is:

Speed: 100Mb/s
Duplex: Full

In Windows XP I can't remember exactly how you find out what its duplex
settings ... but if you go into the properties of the network
connection, then tcp/ip settings advanced you should find a list of
properties including the speed and duplex.

*however* I strongly urge you to try:

a) A *patch* or *straight* cable between ubuntu and the router, and
windows and the router.

b) Using your crossover to connect the XP and ubuntu directly.

Good luck!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] {Spam?} Re: transferring files between Ubuntu and XP slow!!!!

2008-05-15 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Javad Ayaz wrote:
| just a quick update!this is my ethernet connection on the xp machine!
| *Com 3C920 Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller
|
| it has limit of 10mbs so maybe that the problemmy transfer is still
| going at the rate of 47.7KBs


I'm not sure whether you've already done this, or whether you just know
for a fact that it's limited to 10mbps in the hardware. However, try the
instructions here - try forcing it to 100mbps and 'full duplex' if XP
will allow you:

http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/comp/winnt/faq/networking/NIC_speed.htm

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
| According to the description, it's For organising Ubuntu stuff in the
| UK.. I didn't set that, and I don't know who did.
|
| Perhaps we need a better description of what this mailing list is about?


I was under the impression that this would be an advocacy/philosophy
list, although I didn't read the archives before joining to get a flavour.

Support questions may be better on a new list - e.g. British Ubuntu
Support as it's easier for subscribers to opt in/out and
filter/prioritise that way.

Otherwise support questions get immediately pointed to a relevant Ubuntu
forum so that they get a wider range of technical readers internationally.

I don't envy anybody how has to moderate lists and reconcile people with
huge ranges of views whilst trying not to alienate anybody, so thanks
for trying!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] command line converting vid files

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Javad Ayaz wrote:
| i do indeed research the topic before i post! and i will normally only
| post...if im unsure of something!


There were some of your earlier posts which seemed like they would have
benefited from just a little research on your part - it seemed to me
that it saved you 5 minutes but cost, I dunno, say 200 subscribers 5
minutes each so cost the world 17 hours.

If this list were to swell with requests like this from lots of other
users then it would become unusable, forums are better setup to deal
with that kind of thing as they're more hierarchical and much easier to
dip in and out of when subscribers have time. The emails from this list
land in my mailbox so it's harder to filter out those that interest me.

As such keeping posts to the theme of the group title is a must although
it sounds like that the title of this group may change anyway.

It's clear to me that your motivation is to learn so I cannot knock that
at all. Plus I should say though that I was interested to hear how the
non-technical mind works with regards to your torrent downloading hard
drive - I was baffled at first but I can see now how you made the
conclusion which you did.

I'm pleased you've taken the comments on here constructively rather than
personally, it is often hard to pick up the tone of people's words when
you can't hear their voice.

Good luck with your 'buntu!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Tony Arnold wrote:
| If you are watching a program via the internet that is being broadcast
| over the airwaves at the same time, then you need a separate TV license
| to do that.
|
| An exception is that if you are watching on a portable device (which is
| defined not being plugged into the mains power supply), then your main
| home TV license will cover this.


It's complicated isn't it? The first two entries in this FAQ are almost
contradictory with that internal battery exemption complicated with the
link from FAQ1 back to FAQ2.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/students.jsp

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] watch tv on ubuntu!

2008-05-12 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Andrew Oakley wrote:
| A laptop, however, definitely does have the battery within the case, so
| a student living away from home could use the laptop to watch TV on
| their parents' TV licence, provided they never watched TV with the mains
| charger attached.


I know this thread now well and truly belongs on a TV licensing forum
... so apologies.

I think that the it has a mains supply but I don't use that I use
batteries is the same argument as I have a TV but only use it for
watching videos?

The TV licensing website strongly suggests that you would need a license
for a laptop and that you indicates that you are unlikely to be covered
by your parents' license - or are they trying to bend the rules in their
own favour?

I haven't got a TV. I watch telly on my laptop.

It makes no difference how you watch telly - whether it's on your
laptop, PC or mobile phone or through a digital box, DVD recorder or
good old-fashioned TV set - if you use any device to receive television
programmes as they're being shown on TV, the law requires you to be
covered by a licence.

In exceptional circumstances you may be covered by your parents' TV
Licence, but this is very rare.

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/information/students.jsp#link2


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] libgtk update

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Dianne Reuby wrote:
| Just done my first update since installing Hardy - I have one item left
| on the update manager which is greyed out, libgtk1.2 (for GIMP) listed
| under Distribution Updates. Two other updates went through OK.


I had that 'problem' too... I think I found I didn't need the package
and removed it ... or something like that. I only have libgtk2.0
installed now, that's for sure.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Idea- Torrents!

2008-04-29 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Javad Ayaz wrote:
| So any ideas then...to make it work?

... re-read the rest of the thread? :P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 8.04

2008-04-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
Tony Arnold wrote:
 I've been the same and am sore;y tempted to re-install from scratch.


I have been very tempted to do a fresh install too - tracker never
seemed to work for me and I'm convinced that I'm not getting 100%
shinyness having upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy and now Hardy through the
various hacks/workarounds that I've done along the way.

What do others think? - am I being needlessly paranoid, will I do the
'fresh install' and end up being disappointed given that everything
currently seems to 'work'? Maybe 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Heron and Firefox

2008-04-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
George McLachlan wrote:
 As I type this it is using 101% of the CPU (dual cores so top doesn't 
 pick it up correctly) but it almost unusable. Performance was way better 
 in the earlier releases. Now it brings everything to a halt.


Similar story here... it fluctuates but at the moment it's pretty much
maxing out a whole core having been opened for 10 minutes and just a
single tab showing google.co.uk.

Groovy.

One thing I'm doing differently to normal is Firefox is opening through
the Gnome-preferences-session remember setup, oh and I have enabled
compiz. Is there any correlation between my setup and yours?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 8.04

2008-04-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
Andrew Oakley wrote:
 The secret is, prior to upgrading, slim down your install to official 
 packages only.

[snip]

 Most upgrade horror stories appear to be related to packages not in the 
 official Ubuntu repos.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Heron and Firefox

2008-04-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Chris Rowson wrote:
| IMO it was a bad move to put a beta browser into an LTS release. But
| that's just my opinion ;-)

I was surprised by this during the betas. I think that the only
explanation I found that made sense was that FF2 wouldn't be supported
by Mozilla for the lifetime of 8.04, thus it was better for Ubuntu to
punt with FF3 and rely on the upstream fixes from Debian or something.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox 3 in Hardy

2008-04-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Colin McCarthy wrote:
| I guess I will just cope for a few weeks without the plugins I like
| until FF3 is final.


My experience of FF extensions is that they don't even magically appear
as updated versions on release day - it's still another month or two
before they're updated by their respective writers and even then a few
lurk that you have to hack yourself.

The issue of extension compatibility is therefore not really an issue
which can be considered in deciding whether to include a beta or final
browser in Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 8.04

2008-04-27 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Stephen O'Neill wrote:
| I now have Hardy... been having 'fun' so far though


I *think* that I just have broken sound now ... nearly there :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 8.04

2008-04-27 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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| I *think* that I just have broken sound now ... nearly there :)


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/213206

... led me to ...

$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset

... which seems to have made my sound better. HTH.

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[ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 8.04

2008-04-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Seriously you lot - will you stop upgrading so I can have a go? :P

Had a go last night but gave up as various things kept timing out and
now I apparently have 5 days 18 hours and 13 minutes remaining. I may
just be a little more patient and wait a few days.

How's it gone for those of you who got in there first - any hitches,
unsung amazing new features etc?

The new kernel advertises that it will support my wireless card without
ndiswrapper so fingers crossed for that.

Bon courage!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrading to 8.04

2008-04-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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I now have Hardy... been having 'fun' so far though - lots of xorg and
xserver dependency/conflict problems during the upgrade to start with. I
had to uninstall the nvidia-glx-new package, upgrade packages (xorg-core
installed at this point) then re-install.

Then when I rebooted and logged in I got a plethora of 'crash detected'
reports plus dozens for the broken dependencies on the upgrade.

Unsurprisingly I can't enable desktop effects now as although the nvidia
driver is enabled it doesn't seem to be working - glxgears don't run etc.

This isn't a plea for help, I shall sort the problems out and log bugs
if I manage to glean any information which would help a poor developer.
It may be that I have a 3rd party repository enabled that I shouldn't have.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy available now

2008-04-24 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Chris Oattes wrote:
| What makes you say it is released? Or were you just referring to the
| face that a full upgrade from the RC is 99.9% likely to be the final
| release?


The RC files on the have been removed so looks like it's hit the mirrors:

http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/


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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu mirror bandwidth (was: Re: Hardy available now)

2008-04-24 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Chris Oattes wrote:
| it takes longer for the necessary
| number of mirrors to get a copy because you steal their bandwidth

Speaking of bandwidth... in the podcast Shuttleworth said that
the London mirror has capacity for 14GiB/s throughput, so almost 2GB/s
... that sounds like a hugely impressive amount of bandwidth to me, and
even more impressive that it's offered 'free' to end users like me.

It presumably also explains why updating ubuntu with patches each week
is so painless - they download really quickly (temporarily maxing out my
8mbps ADSL line every time) and obviously apt installs fast too.

Just out of interest what do people with more networking knowledge think
to 14GiB - will that have a lot of spare as the ubuntu user base grows?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Chris Smith wrote:
| Alan Pope wrote:
| On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 16:38 +0100, Chris Smith wrote:
| - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its
| totally erratic and generally annoying.
|
| Have you tweaked the settings in Gnome Power Manager on the task bar? It
| has options for dimming and how much by. I switch dimming off when on
| mains, and on when on battery.
|
| I don't the options about what brightness to set the screen too, surely
| it would be best to restore it to the previous setting. I used to see
| them under Gutsy.


I discovered this was a problem on my laptop in Gutsy, it would dim the
display even though I was using the machine... at the time I did find a
bug on launchpad, but can't find it now.

I think that the closest I came to a resolution was setting both the
power and battery brightness settings to the same and unchecking any
dimming options.

I haven't revisited this in many moons so I will have another look when
Hardy is released - it might sound daft but I can't work out now whether
I'm now a happy customer or just learnt to ignore it.

Please let us know whether you find a solution!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardy Issues

2008-04-17 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Chris Smith wrote:
| - The brightness adjusts itself for power saving I assume but its
| totally erratic and generally annoying.


Are your symptoms anything like those in this thread? I'm going to have
a look at my laptop when I get home...

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581335

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Application responsiveness, Windows and Ubuntu

2008-04-06 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Chris Rowson wrote:
| I wondered if anyone else has tried this out or have any reasons why
| it would be so?


The only question which springs to my mind is whether you're using the
Mesa software graphics drivers or the binary drivers for your graphics card?

I think that this should give you a clue about which driver you are
definitely using (without poking around in xorg.conf).

$ glxinfo|grep vendor
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation


Plus to test your opengl performance you can run the following - if it's
really jerky then that's probably due to your graphics card:

$ glxgears

I get between 1500 and 2500 FPS for reference.

System-Administration-Restricted Drivers Manager is where I enabled my
binary Nvidia drivers - they aren't open source so Ubuntu disables them
by default.

I'm not an expert so I'm sure you'll get better advice but hopefully
this will get you started.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office

2008-03-30 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Wulfy wrote:
| Try pressing AltGR; e which should give é.  If it does, the other
| accents are on the punctuation keys around the right end of the keyboard.


This does not work for me and hasn't in the 4 years or so that I've been
using Linux (Fedora and Ubuntu).

AltGr+e gives e
Ctrl+Alt+e gives e

This is true for Open Office. It is also true for Text Editor and
Thunderbird except that Ctrl+Alt produces no text output.

Seeing as we're on this topic I'd be grateful for any suggestions as
it's a problem that's bugged me for years but never managed to track down.

My keyboard layout is Generic 105-key (Intl) PC according to
System-Preferences-Keyboard.

I have just tried Tony's Compose key approach which does actually work
for me (thank you Tony!). It would be nice to get AltGr working for the
more common accents but Compose is clearly more robust.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] special characters for french in ubuntu and open-office

2008-03-30 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Tony Arnold wrote:
| Did you type the semi-colon as well? Just to be clear, it's hold down
| the AltGr, press the semi-colon, release and type the e.


Ah, cheers Tony. I was indeed missing the semi-colon. Years of ingrained
Windows behaviour blinded me to the instructions.

Thanks to Alan too for introducing me to the locale command, I am indeed
using LANG=en_GB.UTF-8. And I can now get ê ě. Marvellous stuff. A four
year itch thoroughly scratched.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] adding a guest user

2008-03-28 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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London School of Puppetry wrote:
| I used the word Guest for the
| name then Guests as the password.


When I tried to do that in my Gutsy setup I got a message saying that
the username needed to consist of lower case letters. Maybe you could
just try 'guest'?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Persuading a school to switch

2008-03-27 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alistair Crust wrote:
| They will not have to employ anyone else full time to
| maintain it.


If an automated update breaks something overnight then at 9am teachers
are relying on the computers to
deliver lessons then you need someone to be able to sort it out there
and then. Outsourced support options may not always be able to provide
this - particularly if you need onsite assistance in a remote area. I
think that most schools would be wanting someone who could fix it very
close by.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Persuading a school to switch

2008-03-26 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Mac wrote:
| the parts of Local
| Authorities that used to be called the Local Education Authority have
| been merged with what used to be children's social services into
| entities called Children's Services Authorities whose remit goes way
| beyond education,


Cheers Mac - my understanding doesn't come first hand hence my
misinterpretations.



| But that's not Craig's main problem.  The continuing difficulty for free
| software in education is the unquestioned acceptance that M$ software is
| the de-facto standard that employers will expect young people to use.


Another issue I have heard mentioned is that we have come across some
schools who have had network managers that decided to install Linux...
but then they left and the person who took over didn't know how to
manage it. They then called in outside help, they scratched their heads
and ripped it out and stuck MS in.

So manuals/training etc are very important if the installations are to
become permanent and not a pet project of the current manager.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Persuading a school to switch

2008-03-26 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Dianne Reuby wrote:
| So we need to emphasis the availability of paid support from Canonical
| when selling to customers such as schools and small businesses.


Good point. If someone walked into a job managing an Ubuntu network with
only MS experience are there courses in the UK that bridge the knowledge
gap?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Persuading a school to switch

2008-03-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Mac wrote:
| James Grabham wrote:
| Its got nothing to do with the school, it will be up to the LEA
| unfortunately.
|
| James  I don't think that's right:  schools make their own decisions
| these days.  And there's actually no such thing as Local Education
| Authorities any more (those ceased to exist as legal entities a couple
| of years ago).  So Craig may have some success just in his own school.
| Let's hope so!


LEAs are now known as LAs - Local Authorities, but they're basically the
~ same thing as far as I know.

What seems to be happening more and more is that the LA will assess and
collectively bargain (put out to tender) with companies for provision of
products and services. Schools then have the option to use or not to use
them. However, the schools face problems if they decide not to - lots of
paperwork, political friction with the LA etc etc - so they must really
want to stray from LA policy. Tenders are the wheels of things like BSF
(Building Schools for the Future) projects etc.

And, as others have mentioned, whatever you implement locally will need
to be compatible with the LAs own systems. You may have success in
getting Linux adopted on for the VLE, but then you've got all the
desktops, various other bits of MS encumbered software, admin systems
(SIMS, CMIS etc)...

If your network manager is skillful then she'll be able to get Linux on
the desktops without needing to change the network infrastructure which
will almost certainly comprise of ISA server and Active Directory.

Good luck! The company I work for sells into schools and I am very
frustrated that we sell more and more MS into them all the time.
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