Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shut down button missing on upgrade

[bodsda]

You'll need the shutdown type I think along with that

sudo shutdown -P now
For a power off, or
sudo shutdown -r now
For a reboot

Bodsda 
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Sent: 5 Jan 2012 12:32

On 05/01/12 12:24, David King wrote:

 This happened recently to my girlfriend's Ubuntu laptop, so she had to 
 do the same to get the shutdown option back.

As an emergency measure when this happens, you can do 'ctrl+alt+F2' 
which gives you a command prompt and then do 'sudo shutdown now' to turn 
off properly rather than the brute force method.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shutdown/Logout and Teamspeak

[bodsda]

Hi,

Do you mean the client or server?

I haven't used teamspeak in years and I don't know if they have a linux 
version, but when you shutdown, the app will close anyway as any normal 
program. 

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Shutdown/Logout and Teamspeak

I just wondered if any of you use Teamspeak on Ubuntu, and if you do, 
does shutting down or logging out cause, not for full shutdown/logout to 
occur, but for just the Teamspeak application to exit/close, meaning I 
have to shut down twice.

As the application is proprietary, it may not be expected to integrate 
well with Ubuntu-  but it does feature Global Menu integration, and is 
written (I believe) for Qt.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Does anyone have experience with using a usb hard drive docking station with Ubuntu?

[bodsda]

Hi,

I haven't used any docking station, but I've used plenty of satausb connectors 
and they work brilliantly.

The drives just get mounted when you plug them in and there shouldn't be any 
conflict with your current system unless you reconfigure grub whilst they are 
attached, in which case you may get a few more distros in your boot list.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Are we missing the point with an OS ?

[bodsda]

I somewhat disagree. The OS stability and configurability is very important to 
me. As are the applications; I need to know that if something doesn't work 
properly or has a feature missing that I need, I can download the source and 
modify it.

The problem for me is not specifically with the OS but with the applications. 
Windows and Mac (and iOS) attract many non-commercial apps varying in quality 
and many high quality commercial apps. Unfortunately because the large majority 
of these are closed source, if they don't provide what you need, the only 
option is to look for other free/paid software, there is no 'file a bug or 
write the function yourself' type approach available. For example, I couldn't 
file a bug/feature request with microsoft to allow me to have custom deck 
pictures in solitaire, my only option is to look for another solitaire program 
that provides this feature. Whereas, if I wanted to do this with an open source 
platform I could fairly painlessly edit the source to provide this feature and 
then file the patch for inclusion if the developers wish.

So my point is, its not so much the OS but the mentality and licenses of the 
apps the developers create for the chosen OS. A closed source OS 'generally' 
lures closed source apps, whereas an open source OS lures open source apps.

Bodsda 
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Sent: 3 Dec 2011 17:33


I am an experienced Linux/Ubuntu user, I went to night school to learn it.
I use Ubuntu and Windows 7 on a daily basis and think that the OS is 
just somewhere to store the programmes I need to work with.

  In Windows, it is the Apps that have to perform properly, like 
Office,Photoshop, email  etc.

It seems that with Ubuntu et al, effort is put into the OS but it does 
not seem the same with the applications,  there developers seem to be 
left to their own devices. Without applications,  the OS is useless.

I think this is why cloud computing is becoming more popular,

Or am I missing the point,

John Davis

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 lost sound

[bodsda]

This sort of think occurred fairly often a few versions ago. 

My general test was to run alsamixer - check if anything was muted. If not the 
run 'killall pulseaudio' restart any audio apps then test. If that worked, 
pulseaudio needs reconfiguring or removing

Only other things I would do is a full system update. Remove sound card, boot, 
shutdown, add soundcard, boot, test.

Hope this helps.
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 lost sound

Not sure what happened (or what I've done!) but I don't seem to have sound any 
more.

I'm convinced it's a software issue as if I boot from a live CD the sound works 
OK.

I've tried uninstalling / reinstalling alsa  pulse in synaptic to no avail + 
various terminal commands (doing similar things) found in on-line forums. All 
to no avail.

Is there a way to reinstall the sound system?

Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how I should proceed.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

George

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] update manager

[bodsda]

It may have been a deliberate change. For example if a background upgrade was 
being applied to pulseaudio and firefox, for the duration of the upgrade to 
that app you would be unable to use it at all - firefox goes haywire part way 
through an update

Is there anything in the release notes about it? 

Bodsda 
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] update manager
Sent: 24 Nov 2011 10:44

I am just trying to find my way around 11.10 and have noticed that there
appears to be an option missing, the option to have updates downloaded
in the background. Thus, when I respond to the cue that there are
updates available I have to wait for them to be downloaded before they
can be installed. 

Have I missed something?

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which boot options on the live CD?

[bodsda]

If the knoppix dvd gives you a grub prompt, edit the entry by pressing the 'e' 
key and reading the boot options

On the ubuntu cd's I think there is a menu option for adding extra parameters

Check the ubuntu wiki for common boot params, I think the usual ones are 
something along the lines of acpi=off and noapic

Hth,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] upgrade to 11.10

[bodsda]

Hi Norman,

I would recommend that you test out the latest live cd (instructions on the 
ubuntu website) to see if you feel comfortable with the new look and feel. If 
you like what you see, the upgrade should be painless. 

Hth,
Bodsda
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Sent: 8 Nov 2011 10:16

I am using 11.04 with, what I assume to be, the original Gnome desktop.
My computer is not particularly sophisticated being about 5 years old
and I would like to know whether I am likely to encounter a whole lot of
new problems to solve should I decide to upgrade. I have tried to follow
comments made by list members and am rather confused and elderly. I have
been using Ubuntu since the first release and any real help would be
much appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UDS session on Secure Boot in 10 minutes or so

[bodsda]

Hi Alan,

Will it be possible to download the audio to listen to later? I unfortunately 
can't attend, but am very interested in the agenda

Cheers,
Bodsda 
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] UDS session on Secure Boot in 10 minutes or so
Sent: 3 Nov 2011 18:30

Hi all,

The Ubuntu Developer Summit is on this week and I thought I would point 
out a talk in a few minutes on UEFI and secure boot, it might clarify 
some of the issues as there is some confusion about this.
you can listen to the audio live using totem or vlc:

totem http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grandsierra-d.ogg.m3u
vlc http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/grandsierra-d.ogg.m3u

the overall schedule for the rest of today is here:
http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/2011-11-03/

feel free to join any sessions that look of interest, you can use IRC to 
talk back to the room if you want your input to be heard. There are 
recordings of the audio available afterwards. 
http://audio.ubuntu.com/audio/pangolin/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses/Certification/UK (Steven Roberts)

[bodsda]

HaqKing,

Is the CompTIA Linux+ up to date? The practice questions list Xfree86 as a 
package more suited to workstations than servers.

Xfree86 hasn't had a release for almost 4 years where as X.org has had a 
contribution 30mins ago

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FYI

So you know, if you take the CompTIA Linux+ which is 2 exams (LX0-101
LX0-102), during the admin part of the exam you can give permission for
your information to be passed onto LPI and so by taking the CompTIA
Linux+ you will also be awarded LPIC Level 1 as well as Novell Certified
Linux Administrator, so you get 3 certifications for the price of one
cert (2 exams)

Kind Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - Rugby World Cup site uses MS Silverlight for videos

[bodsda]

You could say that the entire linux community was unable to view - is that 
figure in the millions or hudred thousands? 

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Sent: 23 Oct 2011 13:55

On 23 October 2011 13:51, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 On 23 October 2011 13:47, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've already complained - anyone else like to?
 http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/contact.html

 Given Microsoft are a sponsor they're hardly likely to choose anything else :(

At least if we complain then the IRB will realise that they are
causing problems to some.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LO in 11.10 STILL CANNOT USE TBird addressbook as an address data source!!!!!!!!!

[bodsda]

Can I suggest that you either file a bug report or dust your programming books 
off and fix it yourself? 

Filling my inbox with exclamation marks is not going to resolve your issue

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Touchpad problem ....

[bodsda]

Regardless of what software you install, and with the exception of hardware 
faults, a clean live cd should always yield the same results.

Inconsistencies of live cd boots would lead me to look for a hardware problem. 

But as you can no longer reproduce the issue, identifying the cause will be 
very difficult.

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Touchpad problem 

Hi there  anyone come across anything like this?  I bought a Samsung 
N145 Plus Netbook from the very helpful guy on e-bay I told you about.  
I came pre-loaded with Ubuntu 11.04 and seemed fine until I installed a 
couple of apps, after which the touchpad appeared to die.  The guy I 
bought it from was convinced it was going to be a software fauld and 
although he would have accepted it back, I felt encouraged to look 
deeper.  He had sent me some helpful links, one of which was a page on 
the Ubuntu Bug wiki giving detailed instructions for detailed diagnosis 
and reporting.

Eventually, I popped the LiveCD of 10.04 in and the touchpad worked when 
I booted this.  I did a fresh install, and everything seemed fine.  Then 
I shut down and when I re-booted, the touchpad had disappeared again.  
Instead of a touchpad, the kernel had installed it as a PS2 Generic 
wheel mouse, so of course it didn't do anything.  The thing is, after 
that, the pad wouldn't work even when booting from any of the Live CDs I 
tried - 10.10 up to 11.10.  I took the battery out because obviously 
something was 'remembering' that I didn't have a touchpad.  Still no 
luck.  This morning, I thought that the only place that anything could 
have been stored was the bios flash memory.

After a bios reset to defaults, the touchpad came back on line again and 
try as I might, I can't seem to break it again.

Any thoughts?  I'm really curious.  The touchpad gets installed as an 
ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Bluetooth dongle

[bodsda]

I have a belkin usb dongle, tiny little thing, works a treat.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (no subject)

[bodsda]

Please don't open any links from emails received from me in the last 24 hours - 
sorry, it seems my account has been compromised, again.
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. http://www.markovci.org/share.html?qoID=82ty8

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04

[bodsda]

The only thing I dislike about the direction that the developers are going is 
unity. Ditch it in favour of Gnome3

LTS releases should focus on stability and nothing else in my honest opinion

Bodsda 
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Sent: 26 Sep 2011 13:48

Now we're perilously close to releasing 11.10 onto the world, it's
been asked [0] what things the developers would like to see the focus
on for the 12.04 (Long Term Support) release.

Personally I would like all core applications to support proxy servers
properly. Especially as it's an LTS release which is arguably
well-suited to corporate users who are those most often behind proxy
servers. (ubuntu one file sync being something that doesn't work
behind proxies)

I wondered what you lot might desire for 12.04?

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy

[bodsda]

Did they have specific issues with the grammar checking in OOo?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Source Schools Project - literacy

[bodsda]

The difficulty is, you can't just replace one product. Publisher will probably 
be licensed with a volume software licensing agreement, along with front page, 
word, excel, outlook etc etc. - so they are just wasting a license by not using 
it. If you could replace all of the office suite, it will be much more 
appealing to the schools.

Bodsda
P.s: what call for open standards? My council clearly missed the memo 
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Sent: 21 Sep 2011 15:18

On 21/09/11 13:19, Sarah Chard wrote:
 feedback from teachers from the first school we visited as a part of 
 our OSSP is that they really need good quality programs that address 
 literacy  not just letters and spelling but grammar, punctuation and 
 sentence construction
Maybe not trying to answer your specific question, my own pet hate is 
the insistence of teaching Microsoft Publisher in schools.  I think we 
should challenge this on the grounds that MS Publisher does not conform 
to an open standard and is therefore going against the British 
Government call for open standards in all government IT.  I'm not a 
desktop publisher user, but wonder how well something like Scribus would 
fill the bill for schools?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] unity in xubuntu

[bodsda]

Hi,

I don't think there is a danger of xubuntu using unity. The whole point of 
xubuntu; as the name implies, is that is uses xfce as desktop environment.

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Hi all,

Just a curiosity. I am using xubuntu and am seing a lot of updates with 
the words thunderbird unity. Is this The guys at cannonical making 
thunderbird compatible with normal ubuntu? This does not mean that 
theres is going to be a unity in xubuntu, right?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Taking notes with Ubuntu

[bodsda]

I would stick with a normal editor, vim, and sync via dropbox or ubuntu one.

No real need for note applications, or at least, I've never found one that is 
easier than a text editor

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Press releases .....

[bodsda]

I don't think it goes to any media, but there is the excellent Full Circle 
Magazine - well worth checking out.

http://fullcirclemagazine.org

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From: Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org
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Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:16:55 
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Press releases .

Hi there   A few days ago, Laura Czajkowski made the suggestion that
Ubuntu Advertising and/or Ubuntu Marketing might look at preparing and
sending press releases to appropriate media.  Since then, I've been
looking at what happens at present.  All I can find are spasmodic
releases from Canonical which sometimes reflect the state of play with
the latest Ubuntu release.

Do any of you know of anything more than this?

If not, could I suggest a sub group committed to circulating a regular
media news letter (two or three times a year).  I'll be happy to receive
contributions, collate them and write it up, then circulate it.  It
would need to target computer magazines, press generally, radio and TV. 

Are there any opinions?  And any volunteers to feed news items into
this?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

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The OU also allow you to use tesco clubcard points to pay for some courses 
(this one included) 

The problem i found when looking for courses/certification is that most of it 
is almost always outdated or unrecognised. Comptia Linux+ for example has 
sample questions, one of which asked what the default X server for linux 
desktops is: the answer they give is Xfree86, which due to licensing issues was 
forked to X.org around 2004, so their material is about 7 years out of date.

The only certifications i personally would trust is the LPI qualifications. 
Having said that, LPI-1 can be passed by anyone with minimal linux admin 
experience, so you would need at least LPI-2 to prove your worth.

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Courses

On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 19:35 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
 Hi everyone. I was thinking of doing a Linux course but haven't got a
 clue on who to do it with. I live in Liverpool so any centre close
 that is credible and good?
 

The OU do a Linux course, the course code is T155 I believe... here a
link http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergraduate/course/t155.htm its not
cheap but then I think you get discount to take the CompTIA Linux+ exam
at the end of the course.

might be worth a look.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop

[bodsda]

I don't have experience with that model, but we deployed Revo's in my 
organisation. The rough spec was 1.6ghz quad core, 2gb ram and an nvidia 1gb 
network card running win xp sp3.

They are good machines for basic use, but fall over from heavy usage. I had to 
up the pagefile to 8gb to keep it running and I still have problems with it. It 
only has one vga port so you either need to purchase a usb2vga splitter or 
invest in an hdmi output lead to get dual monitors. It doesn't have a cd/dvd 
drive, so you have to purchase an external one. 

The units boast a very low power consumption and is extremely quiet but apart 
from that its nothing special.

Unless you can get it for £200 I would save your money for a proper machine.

Bodsda 
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop
Sent: 15 Jul 2011 13:06

Hi

anyone got any experience of the a
Acer Aspire Revo R3700 Desktop

with 11.04

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/261508


i have googled and its come up with mixed reviews some saying it hangs 
on shutdown and other issues right up to hardly any issues.

i will mainly use it for

web browsing (i have  flash but also flash block)
e-mail
open / libreoffice
some of the games  such as glest, open arena etc that comes with ubuntu
i also use software such as scratch

so nothing that is going to be too demanding,  my older dell 10v can 
cope with the above so with ion 2 (assuming that it is supported by 
nvidia drivers) should give better performance.

Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] hard disk problem ?

[bodsda]

Instead of waiting for someone else to post a blog about it, why not test it? 
Use dd to create a file to fill your hdd.

Getting into a root terminal is easy, just alt+F1 then login (assuming you have 
set a password for root)

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 Message Received: Jul 07 2011, 02:15 PM
 From: alan c 
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Cc: 
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] hard disk problem ?
 
 
 On 07/07/11 08:11, john beddard wrote:
  
  Its come to the situation now that whenever we go to local business 
  meetings. It is possible to identify the Windows 'wolf-pack' hovering in 
  the back-ground, ready to get their teeth into us. LOL! I love these 
  situations because I can see the potential for skilfully engaging with 
  people.
  
  However last night, after easily engaging in the usual 'Diss List' of 
  Ubuntu inadequacy. We got given one 'Diss' that made me think. Baring in 
  mind that this is useful for us also. It was this :
  
  Linux doesn't seem to give a warning message when the hard-disk is
  full, instead the system seem to die and shut down.
 
 'Linux' might not have, but Ubuntu does. And what is more, although
 the User account is usually then stuffed, it is pretty easy to get to
 admin privileges to use the - then still available - space allocated
 for this sort of function. to manage the user account mess.
 IIRC th euser message even offers to move to a function to take
 action (view disc usage), although I would tend to get up to admin and
 start sweeping.
 
 Notable epic fail of mine was to arrange on a friends computer a daily
 backup (sbackup) and neglect to set the delete after 'x' days
 properly. So after 6 months I got a phone call. I will leave it as an
 exercise for the reader to guess the rest.
 :-(
 -- 
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 Ubuntu user
 
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I know that Ubuntu does have a warning message when disk space is low (from my 
eeepc with only a 4GB SSD!), but do I understand that there is also a 
'userspace' limit of, say, 90% of the disk, in which case, does the warning 
apply to the whole disk, or just the userspace? And also, which limit would 
apply if the user assumes Admin rights such as with Update Mananger? I think we 
need to have the rules spelt out to fully satisfy the detractors (possibly in 
an article somewhere, like in Linux Journal).

There are also question about what to do when the userspace limit is reached. 
In my old Unix days, it was easy to call up a new terminal and log in as root. 
It was easy to even get the user to do that. I assume in Ubuntu one would have 
to reboot into Recovery mode. Can the user easily reboot when the disk is full? 
Would an admin want to tell the user how to go into Recovery mode? 

These are just some thoughts about what is needed for Ubuntu to become the sort 
of system that admins would accept in the work place.

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[ubuntu-uk] Delete my emails

[bodsda]

Please delete any emails received from me in the last 24 hours, my account 
appears to have been compromised. Apologies to anyone who has received strange 
emails from me.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LAMP SERVER DISTRIBUTIONS

[bodsda]

I would recommend CentOS - it has an extremely simple web interface for 
configuration. 

Hth,
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Sent: 8 Jun 2011 10:39

Hi

Are there any distributions that set up a lamp server out of the box 
something similar to this i guess
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lamppix

but lamppix is no longer maintained

it needs to be  EASY TO SET UP  as in for non linux experts i can do 
stuff but prefer a menu or gui based system.  either that or the 
documentatiobn should be well written,

i am sure the old red hat distributions had a screen that allowed users 
to choose the type of system being installed so selecting webserver 
would install that,  what would be ideal is being able to choose lamp 
server and apart from a few questions it just gets on with it.

thanks

paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Simple backup script

[bodsda]

I would say it depends on what you mean by 'wrong'

I handle the backups for a local government, so yes, that is wrong, very wrong.

But it depends what you need it for. If you are happy with the retention that 
that gives you, then that's fine.

The only suggestion I would make is that you should create the backup first, 
and only if the backup is created successfully should you delete the old one

Hth,
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Simple backup script

I've been tinkering with backups and backup rotation today and I have
come across many wierd and wonderful backup scripts of varying
complexity.

Is there anything wrong with using something simple like this? (except
of course for the lack of validation).

Basically, let's delete anything over 7 days old and then make a new backup.

Chris

#!/bin/bash
find /home/username/backup/*.tar.gz -mtime +7 -exec rm -f {} \;
/bin/tar -cpzf /home/username/backup/`date
+%a-%d-%b-%y-`backupfile.tar.gz /var/www

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Unity and Gnome 3

[bodsda]

Someone shouldn't be put off just because of the desktop environment. I have 
the latest ubuntu but have installed fluxbox because I prefer it.

There's no reason to swap distro's just because you don't like a choice someone 
made

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Borked my Mac installing Ubuntu 11.04, now blackscreens beeps on restart then takes exactly 4 attemptsto boot

[bodsda]

Hi,

First off, forgive me if I make any assumptions or misconceptions, I don't own 
a mac.

On the three attempts that fail to boot, does the POST display at all? If not, 
then a single long beep (on PC architecture) is a key indicator of a hardware 
fault.

My advice would be to remove all internal hard drives, reseat any cards/modules 
(ram, gfx card etc.) Then boot. If that works, add the HD in and test, if that 
is reliably booting, then try the ssd, if that fails, take the HD out and try 
the ssd on its own.

HTH,
Bodsda

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New omputer.......Ubuntu install help

[bodsda]

I doubt it. The specs look fine to me. Only thing is that unless you plan on 
adding more than an extra 1gb of RAM, you won't see much benefit running 64bit 
instead of 32

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] New omputer...Ubuntu install help

Hi, for now, instead of getting a Slate, I found a computer, that will 
be better for what I need at the moment.

The specs are:-

Acer Aspire 5736Z
Pentium Dual Core CPU
T4500 @ 2.30 GHz
RAM 3.00 GB
64 bit
Windows 7 Premium

I want to install Ubuntu, but i'm a bit concerned about the fact its 
64bit, and having read a few peoples problems when trying to install. 
Just wondered would there be any problems with the installation with 
this computer?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends

[bodsda]

Logmein is the same company that produce hanachi. 

When I need to support a new machine, I get them to install the hamachi client 
(straight forward install wizard) and then get them to enter my vpn IP and I 
can then access there computer - rdp, vnc, ssh etc. 

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family  friends

 I am surprised no one has created a service like LogMeIn [0] yet for 
 Linux/Ubuntu.

 I have used it in the past to support Windows machines (as LogMeIn only 
 works on Windows), but the great thing is that you can do the 
 controlling (i.e. the remote viewer) through any web browser, which is 
 obviously OS independent.

 All i do is on the remote machine, either myself or instruct the person 
 there, to go to the logmein site, log in with my details, then there is 
 a button to 'Add this computer' which downloads and installs a little 
 program, so that from then on, the user can just turn the program on 
 when they want support and I can log into the site and see in my list of 
 computers that they are online, and connect to them.

 Why has someone not made this easy for Ubuntu?

 Although I do remember playing (successfully) with a Java based version 
 of VNC... that worked through a web browser, but still required the set 
 up on the client, with the complication of port forwarding, dynamic dns 
 etc.

 LogMeIn does not require you to fiddle with port forwarding or dynamic 
 dns things at all.

 [0] http://www.logmein.com

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface

[bodsda]

Hi,

Python is an excellent choice of language
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends

[bodsda]

I believe ssh keys are generated from hardware I'd's, things like mac address 
etc. 

So I would expect if you created a new users, the old key would still work.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface

[bodsda]

Pythonchallange is probably not the best place for a beginner to start, unless 
they enjoy headaches, mysteries and extremely fast paced learning

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Programming in Python User Interface

The O'Reilly Learning Python book is excellent. I also recommend the
Python Challenge, if you're hard enough.

http://www.pythonchallenge.com/

Tyler

On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 07:03 +, Ubuntu Forum wrote:
 Hi
 
 
 I've been using Ubuntu for around 1 year now
 
 
 I'm 21 years old
 
 
 Currently I'm jobless and want to help the Linux community with what I
 can, but I don't think I will be 100% of use, due to the fact that if
 I get a job I'll find it hard to be available at all times online or
 for meeting face-to-face. The other, being that I might get accepted
 into University but most likely not because I've failed to get
 accepted for the third time
 
 
 I'm trying to learn any Programming language. I heard Python is good
 for beginners and that's where I want to start
 
 
 Will be getting this book from Waterstones soon - I've ordered
 it: Dive Into Python (Mark Pilgrim)
 
 
 I'm having difficulties and need just a little bit of assistance in
 how to start with the basics then I think I will become a lot better
 since I have great appreciation and curiosity for technical things
 
 
 So I'll be very grateful if that support is provided
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support for family friends

[bodsda]

Hi,

I don't 'support' my dad, but we both run linux and have set up a hamachi 
network between our computers. We can now use vnc, ssh, scp etc. As if we were 
on a local lan. Definitely the best solution I have found.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Removing Windows dual boot

[bodsda]

That sort of thing is character building :)

Bodsda
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Irc channels.....

[bodsda]

Care to elaborate on what the fix/problem was?

Bodsda 
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Irc channels.

On 14/03/11 14:40, Josh Holland wrote:
 Hi John,

 On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 02:38:33PM +, John MM wrote:
 Has something happened to the IRC chanels, both #ubuntu and
 #ubuntu-uk I can get onto #ubuntu but #ubuntu-uk seems to have
 dissapeared.

 It looks fine from here; could you be any more specific about what
 client you are using, and any error messages that are popping up? That
 will make it a lot easier for anyone to help.

It ok, its working now. Thank you anyway.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Some advice about /boot

[bodsda]

My setup has always been grub on mbr and grub on /boot for each installation. 
Either way is pretty simple, the only difficulty I can forsee is if you change 
the kernel on one of the installs that doesn't handle the grub install, then 
you won't be able to boot to the new kernel until grub is updated.

Bodsda 
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Sent: 10 Mar 2011 09:51

Hello,

I'm looking at quad booting my laptop (Win 7, Ubuntu (dev),
debian(stable) and LFS) and wondered if it was possible to use a
shared /boot partition across the 3 linux distros. The main reason for
doing so would be so that everything is more tidy, but also to reduce
wasted space!

Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Menu item

[bodsda]

Hi John,

Try giving the full path the the executable 'java', it will probably be 
something like '/bin/java' - you can find out by running 
'which java'

Hope this helps,
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Menu item

Hi All,

I have a main menu item which is supposed to launch a java based application. 
It 
is in the format:

java -jar /location/of/java/app.jar

When I try to launch the application from the menu nothing happens but when I 
copy the same command into a terminal window, it launches perfectly. Any ideas 
anyone?

Thanks

John



  

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Stuff appearing in Terminal, I dont know what it is......

[bodsda]

It has been said many times, if you don't know what your doing, don't do it.

You can't expect volunteers to wait around all day just incase someone they 
spoke to earlier hits another stumbling block. If you want that sort of 
support, dig deep and pay for it.

Looking back through this thread, you haven't shown any evidence of researching 
the issue to try and resolve it yourself. Your also saying that thanks to 
people trying to help, your now in a worse state - replacing the files you 
deleted with the backups you should have taken will get you back to where you 
started... 

Your attitude will not help you get this issue resolved

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Stuff appearing in Terminal, I dont know what it is......

[bodsda]

Would you care to clarify what you have done to try and resolve your issue?

The reason I have not offered any suggestions, is because dpkg database issues 
are not my forte, I don't have enough info to trouble shoot the problem, and 
far more knowledgeable individuals have already replied. Helping others is just 
as much about teaching the person, as it is about resolving the problem

If you want my suggestion, it would be to first find out what changed just 
before the error started. 

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Stuff appearing in Terminal,
 I dont know what it is..

On 06/03/11 18:37, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:
 It has been said many times, if you don't know what your doing, don't do it.

 You can't expect volunteers to wait around all day just incase someone they 
 spoke to earlier hits another stumbling block. If you want that sort of 
 support, dig deep and pay for it.

 Looking back through this thread, you haven't shown any evidence of 
 researching the issue to try and resolve it yourself. Your also saying that 
 thanks to people trying to help, your now in a worse state - replacing the 
 files you deleted with the backups you should have taken will get you back to 
 where you started...

 Your attitude will not help you get this issue resolved

 Bodsda

See, I dont understand how you can say that about volunteers waiting 
around, they dont wait around. I have never seen one of you wait around 
since I first started using Ubuntu. I have spent the past 20 years 
running and volunterring on quite a few different forums, and Ive its 
without demanding money for what I do. It comes out of my own pocket. 
Attitude isnt one way either, its two ways, and you arent exactly 
briming with help and fortitude. ubuntu will never be mainstream, 
because of attitudes like this. You will always be complaining about how 
businessses dont trust you, because of attitudes like yours. The saying 
Ubuntu isnt free, its free to download, is a true saying. Its always the 
same, somebody is pushy, you say they have attitude. I have spent the 
past year or so since 9.04 trying to find otu and research, if you must 
know, and as somebody who is finding really hard to work out what 
terminolguy itself is used working out how to go about repairing things, 
is almost impossible. Ubuntu doesnt make things easy. Which is kind of 
strange really, comnsidering its title. So pelase domt throw that down 
my throat, you have no idea how much I havbe domne.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Right Mouse Click

[bodsda]

Hi John,

Let me explain how the redirect works. When you use  somefile.log after a 
command, that means send any output from the command to somefile.log Because we 
didn't specify an exact location for the file, it gets created in the current 
working directory. If we had run this

xev  /tmp/somefile.log

Then it would be in the /tmp directory.

Hope that makes sense,
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Right Mouse Click

On 05/03/11 07:13, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Look in the directory that you ran the xev command from - I don't know why he 
 was expecting it to be in /tmp

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 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Right Mouse Click

Hi, I suggested that folder, because that was where I was told to look 
when shown that, and found it last time. Sorry if I got it wrong. :( I 
did say i got shown it once.

Did it help?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Right Mouse Click

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Look in the directory that you ran the xev command from - I don't know why he 
was expecting it to be in /tmp

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New twist on file sharing.

[bodsda]

And don't you just love it when software developers disable copying text from 
their dialogue windows :) haha

Bodsda 
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] New twist on file sharing.
Sent: 3 Mar 2011 14:02

On 3 March 2011 13:52, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On both my Netbook and Laptop, if I do System-Preferences-Personal File
 Sharing the dialog box tells me that This feature cannot be enabled because
 the required packages are not installed on your system
 NO mention WHATSOEVER of what packages ARE required. What a stupid
 Windows-like error message. How the hell do I find out what packages ARE
 required?

Congratulations!

You have found a bug!

Luckily it's already been reported by another user.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-share/+bug/536766

My pro-tip of the day:-

When getting error messages, paste them into your favourite search
engine to see if it's a known issue.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange high CPU usage problem

[bodsda]

Hi Rossen,

I have had similar problems in the past where having many tabs open in firefox 
would eventually cause the whole DE to freeze up. When this happens I would 
drop to tty1 and kill the firefox-bin process, and that would restore things.

Start with the obvious: run an update, upgrade - to make sure you have the 
latest packages. Ditch compiz effects and try running like that for a while.

What are your system specs?

Try to narrow down the issue by recording trends, does it usually happen at a 
certain time of day, does it happen on certain websites etc. - it may be worth 
creating a new user and seeing if it happens on that account.

Hope this helps,
Bodsda
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Strange high CPU usage problem

Hi-

Apologies if this isn't the right place. Having started as a Ubuntu user in 
7.04 I find myself completely baffled by the this one.

Every now and then an application starts using a lot of CPU. This is typically 
when running Flash or Java typically in a browser but I'm not completely sure 
about what triggers. The strange thing is that once the problem occurs all 
applications become affected. Even simple things like opening a file browser or 
dragging windows around spikes the CPU to 100% for 10-15 seconds or longer. 
It's like a gradual melt-down with the system becoming unusable even for simple 
tasks. The only solution at that point is powering off the laptop completely, 
which takes a long time since all processes are now really slow to close down.

Needless to say a very debilitating problem to have and I'm baffled as to how 
to narrow things down. I know how to look up CPU usage by process with top but 
when all applications begin to exhibit this behavior that's pretty much useless.

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LANtraffic?

[bodsda]

Hi Gordon,

You'll probably need a proxy to capture that info, perhaps look at 'squid' proxy

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Network traffic monitor that only monitors extra-LAN
traffic?

I'm currently using NTM to monitor internet usage. Unfortunately, it 
includes ALL trafic through the wireless card, whether it's inside the 
LAN or outside!
Is there any monitor available (preferably with visual display) that I 
can set to monitor only network traffic that is outside my LAN?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

[bodsda]

Hi John,

Apache stores its webroot here '/var/www/' 

Just create a web page named index.html and put it in that directory

By configuring the ports, I guess you mean you are hosting the web page on your 
home pc - you'll need to log onto your router and forward port 80 to your pc's 
IP address, so probably best to have a static address

Apache security is a whole subject in its own right - a good source of info can 
be found here - http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/133913/171/

An email address would need to be provided by the people who you buy the domain 
name from - 123reg are a good start

Hope this helps
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

[bodsda]

Nice to know cheers - I guess I'll look into that and stop paying 123reg for my 
emails

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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 07:11:02 
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Web server help please!

On 17 February 2011 07:08, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 An email address would need to be provided by the people who you buy the
 domain name from - 123reg are a good start


That's not strictly true... if you run a mail server on your home PC it's
just a case of ensuring that the MX record is set to the correct IP address
and then configuring the mail server.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] local council

[bodsda]

At the council where I work, vendor lock in is not a concern at all, quite the 
opposite. One of the merits is that everything is likely to integrate without 
an issue. Sharepoint, exchange, ms office, ms sql all work together to deliver 
the service. You can't just replace MS office with LibreOffice and get the same 
service.

I believe that the easiest solution to implement and see savings from are 
servers. My place for example has 5 DC's all doing 1 or 2 roles. Replacing 
these with Linux based DHCP and DNS servers would save over £1000 in licensing 
fees

The problem with trying to replace ms office is that many organisations will 
have a 5 year enterprise site license which they have paid for, so there is no 
cost to keep deploying and upgrading the office suite and therefore there is no 
reason to move to a free alternative.

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] local council

On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 11:51 +, Sean Miller wrote:
 So I think that the argument that Councils will automatically save
 money through moving to FOSS is one that doesn't always stand up to
 scrutiny.
 
 Ultimately we should be promoting Linux on its merits, rather than on
 costs.

The argument about moving to FOSS for Councils is about avoiding lock-in
and having software that can be adapted by the councils for their use
and shared with other councils because it is open source. It's the long
term value of FOSS that matters.

And yes absolutely we should promote linux and open source generally on
it's merits - that's why we launched our county HOSS awards for
organisations and individuals who have been promoting and using Open
source in Herefordshire -( and we may have a nomination from the council
itself ) - it's all about promoting Open Source as positive so that
others will be encouraged to take it seriously and realise how many
organisations/businesses/individuals actually already use it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 69, Issue 59

[bodsda]

On the subject of crapware, my boss decided to try ubuntu on his new dell 
latitude laptop running win7, he installed it by himself, and came to me the 
next day when it was broken. Turns out dell wrote a dock-like application for 
win7, which they preinstalled and it cripples grub everytime it loads.

That was the end of his Linux adventure

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 On 18 January 2011 11:08, Mark Harrisonm...@yourpropertyexpert.com  wrote:
 Out of interest, why do people think that building a PC without Windows
 should be inherently cheaper?
 A simplistic viewpoint based on ignorance of common Microsoft  OEM
 business practice at a guess :)
 Is it because they correctly factor in the cost of the OEM licence of
 Windows, but forget to take into account the subsidies and affiliate fees on
 offer from application software vendors and ISPs for pre-installing 'trial
 versions' and crippleware?
 I suspect most people don't even realise that OEMS get a kickback from
 that kind of stuff.

 Cheers,
 Al.
True, but I'm pleased to see on the last three HP's I've bought for the 
work (sadly all staying Windows boxes), that there was NO crapware 
installed.
So perhaps this is coming to an end??

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[ubuntu-uk] MS SQL

[bodsda]

Hi guys,

This is more microsoft related than ubuntu related, but am just after some 
advice.

We currently use a spreadsheet to manage our server information and asset 
documentation. I am keen to put this into a SQL db, but have a slight problem. 
I am happy with editing tables to insert/view/delete data but my managers won't 
be. What can I use to build on top of SQL to provide a dummies interface to 
interact with the db?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS SQL

[bodsda]

Unfortunately, we already have one. Our call logging system has a cmdb element, 
but it is nothing better than a list of servers with not much info.

Trying to convince management to buy another product is gonna be hard. I was 
hoping for someway of doing it through SQL tools.

I'll definitely look into ocsi 

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Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:23:48 
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS SQL

why not have a look around for an asset management system that's already
built? such as : http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file properties change

[bodsda]

Hi Gordon,

The only thing that springs to mind is that flash drives are usually formatted 
with some version of FAT file system, which doesn't support permissions. But 
apart from that, I can't think of anything

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file properties change

10.04 LTS
I have just copied 3GB of folders, sub-folders and files to a flash drive.
The files in ONE sub-folder seem to have had the permissions changed 
from Read/write to Read only during this copy process. NO OTHER file or 
folder has been affected. The source folder and files are Read/write.
Can anyone explain why this might have happened?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Research Required

[bodsda]

I don't think any interface changes are necessary. Microsoft have made 
significant changes to the UI recently, it would be no harder to learn how to 
navigate Ubuntu's UI than it would be to learn how to use that bloody ribbon in 
MS Office

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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Research Required

On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:20:11 +
Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On 28 December 2010 19:45, Nigel Verity nigelver...@hotmail.com wrote:
  ...
  I installed Ubuntu 10.4 LTS. I removed the bottom task bar completely so as
  not to complicate matters with the concept of workspaces. I moved the top
  task bar to the bottom of the screen, then added the task list applet so
  that open applications would each be represented by a familiar button. I
  removed the Firefox and Help icons to complete the Windows look-and-feel as
  far as possible.
 
 My experience with setting up Windows users with Ubuntu has been that
 the top and bottom bars have not been an issue.  Users are, after all,
 experienced with application menus and toolbars at the top of windows,
 which is more or less what the top bar is.  I think trying to make it
 as much like Windows as possible is unnecessary.  Better to
 concentrate on making users aware that they are getting something
 better, they then expect it to be different, and as long as the
 operation is logical and simple there will be few problems.  If we try
 to convince users that they are getting a windows clone they may
 complain about the differences that they will find.  If we convince
 them they are getting something that is better (_and_ free) then they
 are more likely to accept the differences, or even revel in them.
 
I'm with you on that one.  I would never attempt to make Ubuntu look or behave 
like windows.  I want the user to know it is different, but similar.  One of 
the other things I try to discourage is icons on the desktop, it smacks of 
disorganised behaviour to me.

 By all means set the workspaces to one to get rid of that complexity though.
 
This I don't agree with as multiple workspaces are one of the best ways of 
organising oneself.

-- 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Research Required

[bodsda]

Yeah :)

Bodsda
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Research Required
Sent: 30 Dec 2010 11:28

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 11:12:35 +
bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I don't think any interface changes are necessary. Microsoft have
 made significant changes to the UI recently, it would be no harder to
 learn how to navigate Ubuntu's UI than it would be to learn how to
 use that bloody ribbon in MS Office
 
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Would that be the bloody ribbon interface that people still complain
about 3 years after it was introduced?

Grant.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed ....

[bodsda]

I don't know them, but I do live in Andover, so I might pop in.

Cheers,
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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu pre-installed 

someone sent me a link to (http://nakedcomputers.org/) and on it is a
little firm in Andover called ElpaTech.  They are at:
http://www.elpatech.co.uk/ and they offer a range of PC's with a choice
of OS including Ubuntu pre-installed at very competitive prices.  I
really like what I see.  I just wondered if anyone knows them
personally?

Regards,Barry Drake
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Research required ...

[bodsda]

Hi Barry,

You don't need admin access to create a wiki page, just browse to the pagename 
you want, then start editing.

This does sound like a very worthy cause. Can I make a suggestion though. Any 
failed attempts should be documented fully, this will then allow others to 
attempt the process with some prior knowledge, and might even attract some 
people who can create a solution.

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Research required ...

Those of you on the advertising list will know that Danté Ashton and I
have been trying to research easy entry into Ubuntu with the mindset of
the average Windows user.  Please consider helping with this research.
The aim is to pick a particular 'need' and to follow through whether
this need can be met under Ubuntu, how easily and how successfully.
This use should ideally be one that your Windows friend would have, and
preferably a need that you know little about.

First take a look at:
https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/switching/C/applications-equivalents.html

This page may need revision, and certainly needs extending.

Rules for research: any necessary packages to be easily and quickly
installed without using the commandline.  The preference would be to use
the Ubuntu Software Centre.  If you have a way of meeting the need, but
this requires commandline or other methods, please submit this anyway -
Ubuntu could incorporate a simple workaround.  Any scripts or code you
write to make things work could be posted.  Stuff like that could easily
be part of a package and run on installation without the user being in
any way aware of the complexity.

When you have done the research, please report on how easy it was to
access the information and provide links if a good method is suggested
online somewhere.

So far, I have researched iPod and iTunes.  I have also explored
Logos/Libronix as a colleague has over £1000 worth of books in that
format.  I have to report that Ubuntu is not for him.  I have e-mailed
Logos and received a reply stating that at present they do not have
plans to support our platform.  The same was true of Mac until many many
Mac users complained to Logos!  A niche area, but maybe you'd like to
aid that cause?

I also did a webcam exercise with my sister.  The task was dead easy for
me - but incredibly daunting for my sister and it need not have been!
That one hardly wants any tweaking but it does need tweaking and
properly documenting.

Researching iTunes, I found an official Ubuntu document that said iTunes
would install under PlayOnLinux.  I tested this.  Only iTunes 10.6 can
be made to work, and it installs crippled.  The CD rip and burn
facilities don't work.  It is official policy that we do not include
methods based on Wine or any of its derivatives as these, however good,
are not for the Ubuntu newbie.

The result of the above is that iTunes can be perfectly replaced and
iPods work just fine under Ubuntu with several apps BUT the Apple
download store cannot be accessed.  Most of you knew that already - I
was working in the dark and discovered how hard it was to get
information  that a newbie could follow.

So - lay aside your geekiness for a time, imagine you're a newbie and
volunteer to research a particular need.  Please state the one you are
thinking of pursuing so we don't duplicate the effort.  If there's a
good response, maybe someone who has admin access to the Canonical or
Ubuntu website can set up a Wiki for us to report back on? 

Hope I'm not treading on any Canonical toes here   apologies in
advance if I am.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual Monitor set up NVIDIA Twinview

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Reboots are not necessary, use ctr+alt+backspace to restart X.

Saving to the config file is the only way to keep the configuration after a 
reboot though.

When you say the belinia is acting as the primary, does the gnome-panel move to 
that screen as well?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual Monitor set up NVIDIA Twinview

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Change the primary monitor in nvidia-settings to be the second one.

If you save the config, and after a reboot it fails, all you have to do is 
delete the /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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Bodsda

Reboots are not necessary, use ctr+alt+backspace to restart X.


Thanks, so can I select the primary display and restart X to see if its
working, without committing to saving the x config.


 Saving to the config file is the only way to keep the configuration after a
 reboot though.


Yes, I knew that :-), I was just scared to save and re-boot into something
that might not work.


 When you say the belinia is acting as the primary, does the gnome-panel
 move to that screen as well?


Yes, everything moves over to the Belinia, the Viewsonic only has the purply
background image  on  it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new motherboard- Installing ubuntu

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If there is no OS, then you will need to specify the partitions manually. I 
would suggest taking a full backup first

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new motherboard- Installing ubuntu

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That would be fine. You would need to mount the other hdd's though.

Do a google search for bodhi.zazen how to fstab for a brilliant guide for 
doing this

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what about if i bought a new hd..installed the OS on there...without
touching anything on the other two drives...would that work?

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:43 PM, bod...@googlemail.com wrote:

 If there is no OS, then you will need to specify the partitions manually. I
 would suggest taking a full backup first

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell netbook webcam ....

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Its more likely a software issue then hardware.

If you have an image of a system that didn't work with the webcam, then you get 
a new webcam and put the old image on and it stops again, that points to an 
issue with the image.

Try a clean build.

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Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Dell netbook webcam 

Hi there 

I mentioned failure of the built-in webcam on my Dell mini 10v netbook a
couple of weeks ago.  Since then, the netbook has come back from Dell
with a new camera fitted.  I sent it back with the original system
restored 'as received' when new.  

I tested the webcam on receipt and it worked OK.  After I restored my
system (using partimage with an image I made the day it went back);
after restore, the camera once again broke.  The same hardware fault.
The camera is no longer detected as a USB device.

For my part, I'm going to leave it as is.  I hardly use a webcam anyway,
and it's easier and more robust to plug an external USB webcam in.  That
is detected and works OK.

I'm simply writing to ask if anyone her thinks its possible to destroy a
webcam by something that recent updates to Ubuntu 10.4 are doing.  It
worked OK with the first couple of updates back last May/June.
Something has happened since then.  It might just save someone a similar
problem.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading

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Fighting for the old ways here; with a seperate partition, you can share your 
/home with multiple installs :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading

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Hi Nigel,

Last time I checked, there is no supported way of downgrading between 
distributions.

 I would recommend a clean install of 10.10 first to see if you still get the 
issues, if you do, then reinstall the LTS.

Your probably aware of this, but if you can set up a seperate partition for 
your /home, this saves an immense amount of backup time when reinstalling as 
you can choose (advanced mode) to only format the / and just mount the old /home

Hope this helps,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading

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Config files shouldn't be an issue. Any half-decent program will sanity check 
its config files and recreate them if the current ones are incompatible/corrupt.

And even if they don't, deleting the newer config file will resolve any issues.

Is the not formatting /home a new feature? If its not set up as a seperate 
partition, then it is just mounted under /which gets formatted on install

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On 13 November 2010 17:20,  bod...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Your probably aware of this, but if you can set up a seperate partition for 
 your /home, this saves an immense amount of backup time when reinstalling as 
 you can choose (advanced mode) to only format the / and just mount the old 
 /home


Not necessary. You can install over the top and retain the home
directory without it being a separate partition.

However I'm not sure I'd do that given you are going backwards. It's
possible that configuration files in your home directory will have
been 'upgraded' to support new releases of applications you use, and
going backwards might not be possible for those applications.

Perhaps you could figure out what's wrong with 10.10 and look for /
file bugs. I'm sure the list would be happy to help you with that.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Version Downgrading

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I'm gonna have to run through the installer again then, because I don't 
remember seeing it automatically ask me about /home, and if you were doing it 
manually and didn't specify a mount point for /home and didn't format / then 
would anything actually happen?

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 Is the not formatting /home a new feature? If its not set up as a seperate 
 partition, then it is just mounted under /    which gets formatted on install

If you specify_not_ to format / then home is left as is.  I have just
used this myself to install 10.10 over 10.04.  Back up anything
important anyway of course.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cheese on netbook

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I don't personally own a netbook with a webcam, but I know dell have a habit of 
disabling things in their bios. 

Failing that, is there or have you, tried any other webcam software?

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On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 22:44 +, Tony Pursell wrote:
 Can you try with a live CD or USB?  If the webcam is still not found,
 then I think you will pretty well have proved a hardware fault.

Yes, I'll try that.  I think I can find a USB version of the netbook
remix live CD - I must have one somewhere   If not, Ill make one.
Should have thought of that.

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[ubuntu-uk] Gnome-panel replacement

[bodsda]

Hi guys,

I have several issues with my gnome-panel at the moment; things not showing up, 
swapping places etc.

Before I bother trying to fix them, I was wondering if there is a decent 
replacement for it? 

I have used AWN in the past and like it, but I dislike the mac feel and I like 
how apps have panel icons .

So does anyone know of any replacements that allow apps to still dock their 
panel icons? That's the main feature I need, anything else is a bonus

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau Cursor Problem

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Hi Neil 

I can't say I'm having the same problems, but I am running two monitors with an 
nvidia graphics card, but using the restricted drivers and I don't have an 
issue.

Try making the second monitor the primary to see if you can reproduce the issue 
with the other monitor. This should narrow the problem down.

I would then try using the restricted drivers to confirm that it is a driver 
problem. 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau Cursor Problem

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Don't make a permanent move to the proprietary drivers then, just use them to 
prove that the Nouveau ones are causing the issue

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[ubuntu-uk] 10.10 install

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Hi,

I have just installed 10.10 on my netbook. During the installation, it told me 
that it couldn't connect to the internet, so I couldn't install the optional 
3rd party stuff. This was through the gui installer, not full blown live cd - 
installer.

Did I just miss the network configuration options or does it not offer them at 
all? 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 install

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Hi

If it was via ethernet, then it would work, but not via wifi.

I know if I choose to load the full blown live cd, and got onto the desktop, I 
could configure the wifi and then run the installer, but when you boot the cd 
you get asked if you want to run the installer, or boot to the live cd. 

I chose the installer and therefore didn't get any of the network-manager tools 
to configure the network. 

It just seems slightly strange that it didn't prompt to configure the network 
during the installer. If it did this, the user could configure their 
installation to connect to their encrypted wifi, download the 3rd party 
packages automatically and not have to worry about setting the network up again 
after the installation.

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If you're using WIFI you need to connect at the top using the wireless icon 
assuming its detected your card. If its ethernet then it should have detected 
it and tried to obtain a DHCP address. Which method are you using?

Paul

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Hi,

Could you connect it via Ethernet cable and install anything that you want to 
and update/install the wireless drivers (I'm guessing that's how you're 
connecting to the Internet)?

Regards,

Liam Gallear

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 Hi,
 
 I have just installed 10.10 on my netbook. During the installation, it told 
 me that it couldn't connect to the internet, so I couldn't install the 
 optional 3rd party stuff. This was through the gui installer, not full blown 
 live cd - installer.
 
 Did I just miss the network configuration options or does it not offer them 
 at all? 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.10 install

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Perhaps its an issue with the nm-applet on that toolbar on my netbook.

Or its a problem with my eyesight :) 

I'll rerun the installer to double check. 

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Hmmm that's odd, I installed it on my neighbours laptop the other day and 
booted the installer and not the full blown desktop and it did load a minimal 
toolbar with the wifi icon that I was able to configure the wireless network. 


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Hi

If it was via ethernet, then it would work, but not via wifi.

I know if I choose to load the full blown live cd, and got onto the desktop, I 
could configure the wifi and then run the installer, but when you boot the cd 
you get asked if you want to run the installer, or boot to the live cd. 

I chose the installer and therefore didn't get any of the network-manager tools 
to configure the network. 

It just seems slightly strange that it didn't prompt to configure the network 
during the installer. If it did this, the user could configure their 
installation to connect to their encrypted wifi, download the 3rd party 
packages automatically and not have to worry about setting the network up again 
after the installation.

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If you're using WIFI you need to connect at the top using the wireless icon 
assuming its detected your card. If its ethernet then it should have detected 
it and tried to obtain a DHCP address. Which method are you using?

Paul

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Hi,

Could you connect it via Ethernet cable and install anything that you want to 
and update/install the wireless drivers (I'm guessing that's how you're 
connecting to the Internet)?

Regards,

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[ubuntu-uk] Introduction

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Hi,

I'm Bodsda 

Thought I would send a quick introduction. 

I am a programming hobbyist and linux advocater. I am an Ubuntu member, and a 
member of the Ubuntu beginners team.

My wiki link is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bodsda

Looking for more ways to contribute to the community, I have joined this list 
and am loving the podcasts.

Looking forward to helping out and meeting more like minded people.

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