Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
On 7 December 2010 11:50, gazz wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:48 +, Joe Metcalfe wrote: > > The main difficulties I have had in reading MS files on Linux is with MS > Publisher (though I don't have Publisher in my Windows copy of MS Office > either!) and with macros in PowerPoint (dynamic content in 3rd part > educational files). > > Joe > > MS Publisher files can be sort of converted if you can spare half an hour > of fiddling around per file and the result isn't marvellous; macros in any > part of the MS Office suite don't open properly in OOo. MS Access is relied > upon by much of the UK voluntary sector and it doesn't migrate. PaintShop > files are a pain too and most Windows users have various proprietary Windows > platform apps which don't migrate formats at all and don't run properly on > WINE. > > However, I agree with the general point that most Windows users face bigger > limitations on what proprietary formats they can open without buying every > proprietary app on the planet (given that Linux at least favours open > standards). > > It's probably about 80% perception but there's still maybe 20% real > migration issues to be dealt with. Windows users are strenuously trained to > think of their OS as 'standard' and anything else as weird and troublesome > (although one might easily see this as an actual inversion of reality). > However, whilst many proprietary Windows formats do open without any issues > on many Linux distros, users will still run into migration problems with > mainstream formats which either don't convert at all or which require > significantly technically-savvy intervention to migrate to Linux. Even > setting up WINE is pushing it for the average mainstream Windows user - > although it's like rolling off a log for experienced Ubuntu users. Most orgs > are also going to end up with a peripheral or two that's a brick on Ubuntu. > > I've been doing hands-on FOSS advocacy in the voluntary sector for the best > part of a decade and experience teaches me that it's a mistake to gloss over > the real issues in migrating from any Windows OS to any Linux distro. What's > important is to get across the concept of open standards and to help the > user understand that it isn't Linux' 'weirdness' causing the issues but use > of closed standards in proprietary software and to explain that once they > have made a successful migration to Ubuntu, they will experience *fewer* > issues with cross-compatibility in the future. > > For a proportion of Windows users, though, the barriers will honestly still > be too high for their resources - at least for the time being. Especially > users who rely on being able to open and edit proprietary apps send by > Windows users. Although times change and organisations who once couldn't see > their way to migrating are looking at it again in the current climate. > > When I'm advocating Ubuntu with voluntary orgs, I don't really refer to > technical issues beyond giving them (what I consider to be) a sensible > overview of real and imaginary migration issues - I focus, instead, on > simplicity, resistance to slow-down and choking due to malware, community > ownership (which really appeals), keeping the economy local, longevity of > hardware, ease of installing peripherals, standardisation of software used > for photos, scanning etc etc, ease of maintaining a properly-installed > system for non-techies. And it's *pretty*! > > If you gloss over migration issues, you will forfeit trust when users do > experience problems. I prefer to support people migrating with their eyes > open and wait for the more nervous Windows users to go through the emotional > and practical issues involved for them and their organisation in their own > time. We'll be here when they're ready [image: :)] > > Paula > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > I agree entirely; despite the tremendous amount of work in Linux; there are still many common problems with it: .pub files are very annoying, with the only real F/OSS program that even *attempts* to do a similar set of tasks not having an importer for such files. It does not help, either, that OpenOffice has had so much trouble lately, either; first the slow death of Sun Microsystems (which slowed development to a crawl, and increased the problems between the community and the 'offical' engineers); the takeover of Sun by Oracle (more or less stopping development whilst the project migrated) and Oracle's current tactics which led to the now very quickly developed (but only just about to show itself) LibreOffice. Microsoft Office's new XML files are causing a great deal of difficulty, on terms of engineering as well. Then we have other issues; a very common complaint for me when I migrate someone are the troubles with flash and DVD's and .mp3's. It is a serious problem that in order to install such functionality, one must install the ubuntu
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OCR ....
On 6 December 2010 20:18, Bruno Girin wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 16:55 +, Barry Drake wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 16:07 +, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > > > I had a need to do some OCR recently and came across a project called > > > tesseract-ocr: http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/. It's based on > > > HP code that dates from the mid-90s. I've only used it to extract text > > > from existing graphics but it seems to be very accurate. > > > > You're right - it is accurate - and it works with the neat gui frontend > > that Danté mentioned - gscan2pdf. Makes a fantastic combination that's > > amazingly easy to use. Tesseract and gscan2pdf really ought to get into > > the normal Ubuntu release or at least be well promoted in the > > 'Software Centre' and Synaptic so they are easy to find. The only one > > that's really easy to find is gocr, and so far I'm not that impressed. > > OCRFeeder is another option: it is in the Ubuntu repo, uses Tesseract as > a default back-end and can be installed from the software centre. I > haven't used it extensively so I have no idea how it compares to > gscan2pdf. > > Cheers, > > Bruno > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > OCRFeeder is still lacking in comparsion...also, far buggier. -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OCR ....
On 6 December 2010 16:55, Barry Drake wrote: > On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 16:07 +, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > I had a need to do some OCR recently and came across a project called > > tesseract-ocr: http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/. It's based on > > HP code that dates from the mid-90s. I've only used it to extract text > > from existing graphics but it seems to be very accurate. > > You're right - it is accurate - and it works with the neat gui frontend > that Danté mentioned - gscan2pdf. Makes a fantastic combination that's > amazingly easy to use. Tesseract and gscan2pdf really ought to get into > the normal Ubuntu release or at least be well promoted in the > 'Software Centre' and Synaptic so they are easy to find. The only one > that's really easy to find is gocr, and so far I'm not that impressed. > > Thank you both. This will save me a lot of time in the future. It will > also save me having to say to my daughter or my sister 'Well, I've got > this Windows program . " > > Barry Drake. > > -- > Sent from my desktop using Ubuntu - the window-free environment > that gives me real fresh air. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > Your welcome, Barry :) I'm in a more troublesome state; I've been scanning my books...457 done, 251 to go :/ -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OCR ....
On 6 December 2010 15:39, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there > > I rarely need OCR, but one of my slight disappointments is the lack of a > really accurate OCR engine for Linux. I've tried all the ones that > exist (that I've found so far), and apart from being a bit awkward to > operate, no matter how much I vary the scan settings, I always end up > doing a lot of corrections to the output. > > I've solved the problem by getting an old copy of 'TextBridge OCR' to > work under Wine. It's one that came with a long dead scanner I had some > years ago. The thing is, TextBridge produces far more accurate output > with little or no messing about. It even drives the scanner through > Twain (I was surprised and pleased by that). > > Is anyone out there getting real accuracy with a native Linux app? > > Regards,Barry Drake. > -- > Sent from my desktop using Ubuntu - the window-free environment > that gives me real fresh air. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > gscan2pdf is a very good program...uses unpaper, as well. -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau
On 6 December 2010 00:34, Liam Proven wrote: > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:21 AM, danteash...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom... > > Absolute nonsense. I'm using Gmail right now and it bottom-posts > flawlessly. > > If you look toward the bottom right corner of your keyboard, you will > see some buttons with arrows on them. These are called "cursor keys" > and they let you move around the little line that indicates where your > typing appears. What you do is, you move down to the bit to which > you're replying, insert some blank spaces, type in your response, and > repeat. Anything you're not responding you, such as signatures, you > delete. > > Then you press "send". > > It's not hard, tricky, technical, or difficult to understand unless > you are, in fact, say, a dog. It's the web; we can't tell, you see. > > If you're on an Android mobile phone, OK, fair dos, that Gmail client > can't bottom-quote. But if you are participating on mailing lists from > your phone, install K9 and use that. > > -- > Liam Proven • Info & profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven > Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com > Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 > AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > *woof woof* -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau
On 5 December 2010 08:27, Colin Law wrote: > On 5 December 2010 08:21, danteash...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom... > > You don't have to worry about what GMail likes or does not like, you > will not significantly hurt its feelings by going against its attempts > to force undesirable practices on you. Remember, you are in charge, > not Google. Just scroll down to the bottom before typing (even > better delete the first couple of blank lines before starting). > > > > > It was suggested that I run the 'apt-get install nvidia-current' command > if > > booting into Ubuntu leads to a failed X session (and thus, text-mode). > This > > is due to an issue between Nouveau and my onboard graphics, which is > > extremely disconcerting to me as, every time I need to reinstall my > system, > > I have to install from 10.04 (which, unlike 10.10, accepts 'xforcevesa' > at > > the boot options) and upgrade from there. > > By top posting and not even quoting the previous reply this message > does not mean a lot. Is it in reply to a previous post or just a > statement. > > Colin > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > Fine, how's this? I did mean "Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom..." in a whimsical manner, you know. I was hoping, by that statement, that you or others would see flaws in what I was told (if there were any) because I'd really rather like to not end up with 10.04 again. I will not quote this entire 'conversation' because I simply cannot be bothered to rearrange 10 or so previous messages. Sorry if this is an annoyance. :/ -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau
Sorry, but GMail does not like posting at the bottom... It was suggested that I run the 'apt-get install nvidia-current' command if booting into Ubuntu leads to a failed X session (and thus, text-mode). This is due to an issue between Nouveau and my onboard graphics, which is extremely disconcerting to me as, every time I need to reinstall my system, I have to install from 10.04 (which, unlike 10.10, accepts 'xforcevesa' at the boot options) and upgrade from there. -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau
Sorry, only just saw this! Do I need to do anything to connect or is it automatic? Assuming I'm using a wired connection...does text-mode do that? On 1 Dec 2010 10:42, "Ron Rhodes" wrote: On 01/12/10 09:29, Colin Law wrote: > On 1 December 2010 02:33, Ron Rhodeshttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubu... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
Vinothan Shankar: Of course you can be useful! We need everyone! :D Barry: Hmmm...technician, yes? That could be useful indeedoh, and the team is here, if you want to join up: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising -Dante On 4 December 2010 22:08, Vinothan Shankar wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 18:50 +0000, danteash...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello all! > > > > I'm Dante, Project Leader of the Ubuntu Advert Team, and WE need YOU! > > > > We are creating advert(s) for Ubuntu, for a non-technical audience. > > These adverts will be on the radio, at cinemas and (when we get enough > > funding together) on the TV. We need literally everyone, from graphics > > artists to actors to animators to writers and translators. This > > material will be also be given to the LoCo teams. We are acquiring > > studio access in Gloucester (Gloucestershire College) and our work > > will also find it's way onto the Ubuntu homepage. I don't think I need > > to stress that this is very important; this is Ubuntu making itself > > known to the public for the first time. > > > > Please, help us make it great. Join us if you can/want to help. Spread > > the word! > > > > > > http://ubuntuadverts.org/ > > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-advertising> > > Hi. > I joined the team the day before yesterday, but I think I'll chip in > here, too. Of the things you've listed, the only one I'm any good at is > acting, but hopefully I can still be useful. > > Vinothan Shankar > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Want to create an advert for Ubuntu?
Hello all! I'm Dante, Project Leader of the Ubuntu Advert Team, and WE need YOU! We are creating advert(s) for Ubuntu, for a non-technical audience. These adverts will be on the radio, at cinemas and (when we get enough funding together) on the TV. We need literally everyone, from graphics artists to actors to animators to writers and translators. This material will be also be given to the LoCo teams. We are acquiring studio access in Gloucester (Gloucestershire College) and our work will also find it's way onto the Ubuntu homepage. I don't think I need to stress that this is very important; this is Ubuntu making itself known to the public for the first time. Please, help us make it great. Join us if you can/want to help. Spread the word! http://ubuntuadverts.org/ https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-advertising -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How do I turn off viewing all windows zoomed out?
Ubuntu Tweak has a nice UI to change corners, as well. On 3 December 2010 14:15, ian pettitt (RRes-BB) wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk- > > boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of David King > > Sent: 03 December 2010 13:24 > > To: UK Ubuntu Talk > > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] How do I turn off viewing all windows zoomed out? > > > > There is an option somewhere in Ubuntu that I set a while ago that > > means > > that when I move my mouse to the left side of the screen, all opens > > windows are shown small in a kind of grid on the screen. I can then > > click on a window to zoom into that one to use normally. > > > > > That sounds like the scale plugin in Compiz. One way of changing the > settings and the shortcut/mouse corner activation is to use the Compiz > manager. > > I have it set up to do this effect on the top right corner, so I don't > accidentally activate it as often. > > Thanks > > Ian > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau
To be honest, not really; it's referred to as NVIDIA-current by jockey... On 30 November 2010 17:26, Ron Rhodes wrote: > On 28/11/10 15:49, danteash...@gmail.com wrote: > > The problem is, I have no idea how to get into Ubuntu and install the > > driver. Nouveau leaves me with a failed X session (IE, at the command > line) > > and I've little idea how to install the driver through that. :P > > > > > Do you know which nvidia driver you need to install? Knowing this will > assist in guiding you through the process. > Awaiting your reply. > Regards Ron. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nouveau
The problem is, I have no idea how to get into Ubuntu and install the driver. Nouveau leaves me with a failed X session (IE, at the command line) and I've little idea how to install the driver through that. :P -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Nouveau hates me...
Hey all. My name is Dante, big fan of Ubuntu and all that; but I have a problem, and I wonder if you guys can help...my laptop hates Nouveau, you see. If I try and run Ubuntu on it, then I am faced with a non-starting X session. Now I'm not any good at this, I'm a non-programmer! Appending 'xforcevesa' to the boot options seems to work, but that only works in 10.04 (10.10 does not respond to this, nor 'nomodeset') to get to 10.10, I need to install 10.04 and upgrade...any suggestions? It works fine as soon as I install the NVIDA driver... Also, I'm looking around for a graphics card for another machine I'm building, and was wondering if anyone would care to help me out there...I'm looking for a good card (to power a TV through HDMI) that'll play nice with Compiz and Unity. Thanks for any help in advance :) -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
