[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS
A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more like it means business than the preceding ones. Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_source.pdf Forward (extract) When Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web in 1989, he fought to keep it free for everyone. Since then, not everyone in ICT has displayed quite the same philanthropic spirit and a small number of global organisations dominate. But over the past few years, the people have begun to fight back. Individuals, working together over the internet, can create products that rival and sometimes beat those of giant corporations. The age of Open Source is dawning and Government has embraced it, becoming more innovative, agile and cost-effective. (cabinet office) -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:14:28 -, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more like it means business than the preceding ones. Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_source.pdf Forward (extract) When Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web in 1989, he fought to keep it free for everyone. Since then, not everyone in ICT has displayed quite the same philanthropic spirit and a small number of global organisations dominate. But over the past few years, the people have begun to fight back. Individuals, working together over the internet, can create products that rival and sometimes beat those of giant corporations. The age of Open Source is dawning and Government has embraced it, becoming more innovative, agile and cost-effective. (cabinet office) Good news. Lets hope this filters down through the system to councils and education. -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:14:28 -, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more like it means business than the preceding ones. Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_source.pdf Forward (extract) When Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web in 1989, he fought to keep it free for everyone. Since then, not everyone in ICT has displayed quite the same philanthropic spirit and a small number of global organisations dominate. But over the past few years, the people have begun to fight back. Individuals, working together over the internet, can create products that rival and sometimes beat those of giant corporations. The age of Open Source is dawning and Government has embraced it, becoming more innovative, agile and cost-effective. (cabinet office) Good news. Lets hope this filters down through the system to councils and education. At least they are supporting both ODF and OOXML, with the latter i really don't trust MS to keep things as open as they claim, or if one day they will er drop support for it totally, in favour of something else. But all in all its a start, all we need to do is get some of the people in IT to look at this, easier said that done that from what I have heard. Paul - -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net Ubuntu 9.10 is out : Visit www.ubuntu.com for details DCGLUG MEETINGS - Details on www.dcglug.org.uk/drupal6, - please click on Group meetings link on right hand side Aged 11 - 19 then dfey may be for you, please goto http://www.dfey.org for more details -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAktjZ1gACgkQaggq1k2FJq2SPgCggvZ5sSU76TOKteVYCMxNf1wU HGIAn1JDsSg1pNBQAC3wIFr7lwfj1NBO =Fk5o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS
As much as I'd like to see a greater take up of OSS within Government, I don't think we're there yet. It's interesting that the document mentions Birmingham City Council's forays into the Linux desktop. I wrote about this some time ago: http://www.justuber.com/blog/2006/11/20/how-to-spend-half-a-million-on-free-software/ Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:55:27 -, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:14:28 -, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more like it means business than the preceding ones. Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_source.pdf Forward (extract) When Sir Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web in 1989, he fought to keep it free for everyone. Since then, not everyone in ICT has displayed quite the same philanthropic spirit and a small number of global organisations dominate. But over the past few years, the people have begun to fight back. Individuals, working together over the internet, can create products that rival and sometimes beat those of giant corporations. The age of Open Source is dawning and Government has embraced it, becoming more innovative, agile and cost-effective. (cabinet office) Good news. Lets hope this filters down through the system to councils and education. At least they are supporting both ODF and OOXML, with the latter i really don't trust MS to keep things as open as they claim, or if one day they will er drop support for it totally, in favour of something else. But all in all its a start, all we need to do is get some of the people in IT to look at this, easier said that done that from what I have heard. Paul I fear it may take a long, long time for things to get moving. They still haven’t got round to sorting a minor problem on the Job Centre systems. They can’t print £ and haven’t for nearly ten years. -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I fear it may take a long, long time for things to get moving. They still haven’t got round to sorting a minor problem on the Job Centre systems. They can’t print £ and haven’t for nearly ten years. Talking of jobcentre plus the new job search facility uses direct.gov (yuk) I have to search bytown now before I could use chekc boxes for catagory select sub catagories within 5 chosen enter post code + distance and have it come up with jobs now its far far more complex, and half the time fails to come up with anything. Oh well, I don't even know if the old job search pages are still there. Paul I don't care how good they claim direct.gov is, my experience has been dire, so will try and go elsewhere. if that is actually possible. - -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net Ubuntu 9.10 is out : Visit www.ubuntu.com for details DCGLUG MEETINGS - Details on www.dcglug.org.uk/drupal6, - please click on Group meetings link on right hand side Aged 11 - 19 then dfey may be for you, please goto http://www.dfey.org for more details -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAktja5MACgkQaggq1k2FJq0s4gCdGIgazHn77OU0btp+12O8djHF BZsAn3wgwGR1SJBbaWTP3cjp1Vrp8M9h =Cd41 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:13:30 -, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I fear it may take a long, long time for things to get moving. They still haven’t got round to sorting a minor problem on the Job Centre systems. They can’t print £ and haven’t for nearly ten years. Talking of jobcentre plus the new job search facility uses direct.gov (yuk) I have to search bytown now before I could use chekc boxes for catagory select sub catagories within 5 chosen enter post code + distance and have it come up with jobs now its far far more complex, and half the time fails to come up with anything. Oh well, I don't even know if the old job search pages are still there. Paul I don't care how good they claim direct.gov is, my experience has been dire, so will try and go elsewhere. if that is actually possible. - -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net I was pat of a group that got to test it before it went live, many years ago, most of the things we complained about are still the things people complain about now. Part of it is to do with the fact that every job has to fit in a specific category and can’t turn up in several different ones. So one person says a FLT drivers job is driving another says it’s warehouse and another puts it as skilled because a special licence is needed. -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS
On 29/01/10 22:14, alan c wrote: A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more like it means business than the preceding ones. Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_source.pdf This has been discussed at length. The Action Plan itself is pretty good, but unfortunately the Cabinet Office seem to have little or no power to actually police or enforce it. If you are interested follow some of the links on my blog post here: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/01/28/uk-gov-updates-open-source-policy/ Another interesting snippet of news today is what has apparently happened in Denmark... http://jan.wildeboer.net/2010/01/denmark-goes-odf-only-odf-sorry-ooxml/ There is more around the net on this too... Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 30/01/10 00:02, Alan Lord (News) wrote: This has been discussed at length. The Action Plan itself is pretty good, but unfortunately the Cabinet Office seem to have little or no power to actually police or enforce it. If you are interested follow some of the links on my blog post here: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/01/28/uk-gov-updates-open-source-policy/ Another interesting snippet of news today is what has apparently happened in Denmark... http://jan.wildeboer.net/2010/01/denmark-goes-odf-only-odf-sorry-ooxml/ There is more around the net on this too... Here's a reasonable translation: http://notes2self.net/archive/2010/01/29/an-update-on-document-formats-in-denmark.aspx -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:05:11 -, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/01/10 00:02, Alan Lord (News) wrote: This has been discussed at length. The Action Plan itself is pretty good, but unfortunately the Cabinet Office seem to have little or no power to actually police or enforce it. If you are interested follow some of the links on my blog post here: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/01/28/uk-gov-updates-open-source-policy/ Another interesting snippet of news today is what has apparently happened in Denmark... http://jan.wildeboer.net/2010/01/denmark-goes-odf-only-odf-sorry-ooxml/ There is more around the net on this too... Here's a reasonable translation: http://notes2self.net/archive/2010/01/29/an-update-on-document-formats-in-denmark.aspx The Danish proposal sounds very positive, unlike some of the wishy-washy bits in ours. -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 30 Jan at 0:28, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: on Open Standards and Government policies The Danish proposal sounds very positive, unlike some of the wishy-washy bits in ours. I wonder if the wishy-washy bit is because the native lot are not prepared to throw out buying licences to proprietory systems as that may be the only economic source of certain applications? And a simplistic view of the Danish proposal is that all they are concerned with is the use of Open Standards for exchanging information, not for system sourcing. Can anyone outline the overall economies of Open Source? -- Tim Powys-Lybbe t...@powys.org for a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
