Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse

2007-03-06 Thread Robin Menneer
On 3/5/07, Wulfy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robin Menneer wrote:
  On 3/5/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is?
 
 
  Yes.  It's labelled Speed Touch 330 made by Thomson Telecom.
 Try this:

 http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html

 It worked for me and I have that modem from Tiscali...  use the
 instructions for Dapper if you have Edgy...

I've looked at it and it is too advanced for me but I am passing it on
to my webmaster in hopes.  Many thanks

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[ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse

2007-03-05 Thread Robin Menneer
Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to
replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have
moved to Eclipse.  Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my
webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop
(which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different
box costing in excess of £30.  I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB
connections.  Help please...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse

2007-03-05 Thread Ben Thorp
In the long run you are probably better off owning your own modem/router 
anyway. They're reasonably cheap (although they are in excess of £30), but 
what you sacrifice in terms of price you gain in terms of functionality - 
the reason that many boxes don't work with Linux is because the hardware 
they contain is unable to do all the work itself - it requires some clever 
pieces of proprietary software to acheive full function. A normal router 
(or even just an ADSL modem, which might be a cheap option if you only 
want 1 port) will work over Ethernet, and all the hard work will be 
performed by the hardware itself, which is a preferable situation anyway. 

One option (as hinted above) might be to get an ADSL modem, which will 
usually have an ethernet port on the back, which you could then swap 
between your 2 boxes (the mini and the laptop) and then, at a later date, 
you could buy yourself a router, thus expanding your network. This would 
allow you to split the cost into 2 smaller outlays.

HTH

mrben

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/03/2007 14:54:52:

 Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to
 replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have
 moved to Eclipse.  Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my
 webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop
 (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different
 box costing in excess of £30.  I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB
 connections.  Help please...
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse

2007-03-05 Thread Dave Walker
Hi Robin,

Did 'webmaster' tell you why it will not work with Ubuntu?

Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is?

Does this 'black box' have a network cable port (RJ-45) (pic:
http://www.offspringtech.com/images/big/COUPL-RJ45.jpg).  It's bigger
than a normal telephone connection.  If so, that is definitely the
preferable option.

Kind Regards,
Daviey

On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 14:54 +, Robin Menneer wrote:
 Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to
 replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have
 moved to Eclipse.  Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my
 webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop
 (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different
 box costing in excess of £30.  I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB
 connections.  Help please...
 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse

2007-03-05 Thread Robin Menneer
On 3/5/07, Ben Thorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the long run you are probably better off owning your own modem/router
 anyway. They're reasonably cheap (although they are in excess of £30), but
 what you sacrifice in terms of price you gain in terms of functionality -
 the reason that many boxes don't work with Linux is because the hardware
 they contain is unable to do all the work itself - it requires some clever
 pieces of proprietary software to acheive full function. A normal router
 (or even just an ADSL modem, which might be a cheap option if you only want
 1 port) will work over Ethernet, and all the hard work will be performed
 by the hardware itself, which is a preferable situation anyway.


Am being a bit dumb.  I need (and will need) only one connection to
the web so shouild I get a router or an ADSL modem or what ? and do I
presume Belbin is ok although they have a lousy power plug  socket in
the USB dock which I have.  We are prone to lightning here and I take
care to disconnect the phone socket but obviously would rather be
protected electronically.  Thanks for your interest.

 One option (as hinted above) might be to get an ADSL modem, which will
 usually have an ethernet port on the back, which you could then swap between
 your 2 boxes (the mini and the laptop) and then, at a later date, you could
 buy yourself a router, thus expanding your network. This would allow you to
 split the cost into 2 smaller outlays.

 HTH

  mrben

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/03/2007
 14:54:52:


   Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to
   replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have
   moved to Eclipse.  Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my
   webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop
   (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different
   box costing in excess of £30.  I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB
   connections.  Help please...
  
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse

2007-03-05 Thread Robin Menneer
On 3/5/07, Samuel Toogood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robin Menneer wrote:
  On 3/5/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Robin,
 
  Did 'webmaster' tell you why it will not work with Ubuntu?
 
  No !
 
  Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is?
 
  Yes.  It's labelled Speed Touch 330 made by Thomson Telecom.  T
 
  Does this 'black box' have a network cable port (RJ-45) (pic:
  http://www.offspringtech.com/images/big/COUPL-RJ45.jpg).  It's bigger
  than a normal telephone connection.  If so, that is definitely the
  preferable option.
 
 
 
  It has two connections: a tiny plug to the landline and a cable with a
  USB plug on the other to the computer, and is working on my mac as I
  type.
 
   Kind Regards,
  Daviey
 
  On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 14:54 +, Robin Menneer wrote:
  Having had Orange take five weeks (and dozens of phone calls) to
  replace their white box after an ordinary lightning strike, I have
  moved to Eclipse.  Their black box works ok with my mac mini but my
  webmaster tells me that it won't work with Ubuntu on my Compaq laptop
  (which worked ok with Orange) and that I will have to buy a different
  box costing in excess of £30.  I'm on broadband with non-wireless USB
  connections.  Help please...
 
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 An ADSL router is better (more reliable, can connect more than one
 computer at once etc), but you should be able to use the box you've been
 given. Take a look at
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UKSpeedtouchDSLHowTo.

 Hope this helps,

 Sam

Thank you.  I've had a look at it and it's a bit complicated for me so
I'll pass it on to my webmaster.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband connection with Eclipse

2007-03-05 Thread Wulfy
Robin Menneer wrote:
 On 3/5/07, Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Do you know what the make and model of the 'black box' is?

 
 Yes.  It's labelled Speed Touch 330 made by Thomson Telecom. 
Try this:

http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html

It worked for me and I have that modem from Tiscali...  use the 
instructions for Dapper if you have Edgy...

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