Re: [ubuntu-uk] Comiing to a PC near you - With God On Their Side

2008-05-29 Thread James Grabham 
I read about that a couple of weeks ago, ut the American Goernment wanting
to know what youre doing isnt really news.

I'd be more concerned about virgin having the audacity to think they have
the right to police the internet, and dolling out punishments, cutting you
off etc - who need courts when we have virgin <.<  And there was me naively
thinking that people were entitled to fair trials.

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Eddie Armstrong <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Will US$30 billion be enough to hack your PC?  :-)
> See
> Air Force Aims for 'Full Control' of 'Any and All' Computers
> 
>
> Time I started using iptables :-)
>
> Seriously , this is a scary thought  I shouldn't imagine there is much
> defence against this kind of effort (I already suspect MS has back-doors
> for US ''security' - only makes sense for people of a certain mind-set )
>
> Now where's that link to ClamAv?
> Eddie
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Comiing to a PC near you - With God On Their Side

2008-05-29 Thread Tony Arnold 


Eddie Armstrong wrote:
> Will US$30 billion be enough to hack your PC?  :-)
> See
> Air Force Aims for 'Full Control' of 'Any and All' Computers 
> 
> 
> Time I started using iptables :-)
> 
> Seriously , this is a scary thought  I shouldn't imagine there is much 
> defence against this kind of effort (I already suspect MS has back-doors 
> for US ''security' - only makes sense for people of a certain mind-set )

This is really scary and I think it could kill the internet long term!
If the US is doing it, so will other governments leading to all
countries carrying out this kind of work leaving the internet totally
unsafe for everybody.

Given also the the Department of Homeland Security has be totally crap
at keeping their own systems secure, I don't think there is much hope
for any of us.

> Now where's that link to ClamAv?

I think you need pen and paper!

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Tony.
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[ubuntu-uk] Comiing to a PC near you - With God On Their Side

2008-05-29 Thread Eddie Armstrong 
Will US$30 billion be enough to hack your PC?  :-)
See
Air Force Aims for 'Full Control' of 'Any and All' Computers 


Time I started using iptables :-)

Seriously , this is a scary thought  I shouldn't imagine there is much 
defence against this kind of effort (I already suspect MS has back-doors 
for US ''security' - only makes sense for people of a certain mind-set )

Now where's that link to ClamAv?
Eddie

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