Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread bumaw 
http://about.skype.com/press/2011/05/microsoft_to_acquire_skype.html



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Kris Douglas 
On 10 May 2011 16:05, Avi Greenbury  wrote:
> J Fernyhough wrote:
>>
>> Does this mean MS will be making software for Linux? Does this mean
>> Linus wins? What does this mean for Linux??!eleven
>
> Did those Hyper-V modules ever make it into the mainline kernel?

I am not entirely sure they exist in the mainstream kernel.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Avi Greenbury 

J Fernyhough wrote:

Does this mean MS will be making software for Linux? Does this mean
Linus wins? What does this mean for Linux??!eleven


Did those Hyper-V modules ever make it into the mainline kernel?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread J Fernyhough 
On 10 May 2011 15:08, Mike Paglia  wrote:
> I don't believe at all that this is the end of the linux client!

Does this mean MS will be making software for Linux? Does this mean
Linus wins? What does this mean for Linux??!eleven

“If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won.” -
Linus Torvalds

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Mike Paglia 
I don't believe at all that this is the end of the linux client! Microsoft
are a huge concern who are out to make money. I believe they see there own
failings in the VOIP world and like most other companies where technology is
short they buy in from outside.

I see this as a positive step and coming from me a MAC and Linux user and a
prominent hater of the beast that is Microsoft says a lot.

Develop the product make it more open thats the way forward!

Skype as you all know is just one of the many VOIP/SIP providers out there
this just means it will make the competition work harder and show what is
possible with free software.

Mike

On 10 May 2011 13:20, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

> MS buys Skype - is this the end of Skype on Linux?
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> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/digital-media/8503937/Microsoft-buys-Skype-for-8.5bn.html
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Hakan Koseoglu 
On 10 May 2011 14:09, Tyler J. Wagner  wrote:
> Because publicly-traded companies don't do that to profitable companies
> with valuable technology. It doesn't increase shareholder value.
Skype is $600+ million in debt and and last year lost $7m more. I
wouldn't call that profitable.

Even though it works reasonably well, Linux Skype client is lagging
Windows and hardly gets regular updates. An MS ownership will
definitely be the last nail in the coffin.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Tyler J. Wagner 
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 13:42 +0100, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> One commentator has suggested they've done it for the subscriber list
> and not for the technology...

Ridiculous. Skype's ability to pierce all forms of NAT and firewall puts
it miles ahead of MSN.

On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 13:33 +0100, Dan Attwood wrote:
> So why not just buy the company and tear it to bits?

Because publicly-traded companies don't do that to profitable companies
with valuable technology. It doesn't increase shareholder value.

It's easy to assume everything MS does is evil, and specifically bad for
Linux users. They are no friend of ours, clearly, but that doesn't
translate to making bad business decisions out of spite.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker 

On 10/05/2011 13:33, Dan Attwood wrote:

the other question to ask is, is this the end of skype?

The already have text, voice and video available of MS Live Messenger

So why not just buy the company and tear it to bits?




One commentator has suggested they've done it for the subscriber list 
and not for the technology...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Avi Greenbury 

Dan Attwood wrote:

The already have text, voice and video available of MS Live Messenger

So why not just buy the company and tear it to bits?


Because "Skype" is approximately synonymous with "VoIP" to most people - 
there's no sense getting rid of all that good brand at all, especially 
now it's not even a competitor.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Dan Attwood 
the other question to ask is, is this the end of skype?

The already have text, voice and video available of MS Live Messenger

So why not just buy the company and tear it to bits?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread John Stevenson 
On 10 May 2011 13:20, Gordon Burgess-Parker  wrote:

> MS buys Skype - is this the end of Skype on Linux?
>
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/digital-media/8503937/Microsoft-buys-Skype-for-8.5bn.html
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I cant see why.  If they mess around with the protocol then all they would
do is start to loose many paying customers for Skype that use Linux.  As
Microsoft look to do more things on the web they have been making them more
friendly to systems other than their own.

If they do something to restrict users then they will have less customers
and something else may be adopted as a Skype replacement.

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[ubuntu-uk] End of Skype on Linux?

2011-05-10 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker 

MS buys Skype - is this the end of Skype on Linux?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/digital-media/8503937/Microsoft-buys-Skype-for-8.5bn.html


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