Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler
On Sunday 01 May 2011 13:49:16 Mark Fraser wrote: I've decided to pack away my little used - it was basically being used as a clock - O2 Joggler. I'm sure reading a while ago that someone on here was looking for one. If this is still the case, would you like to buy this one? It comes with box and instructions. For those asking how much, I was thinking somewhere about £50. Not sure of payment method though. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Joggler
I've decided to pack away my little used - it was basically being used as a clock - O2 Joggler. I'm sure reading a while ago that someone on here was looking for one. If this is still the case, would you like to buy this one? It comes with box and instructions. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler
Hi Mark, how much are you looking for it? I know that there were a few people in the north west who were after one a couple of months ago, I can make some enquiries on your behalf. All the best Les Pounder On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Mark Fraser ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.ukwrote: I've decided to pack away my little used - it was basically being used as a clock - O2 Joggler. I'm sure reading a while ago that someone on here was looking for one. If this is still the case, would you like to buy this one? It comes with box and instructions. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler
On 1 May 2011 13:49, Mark Fraser ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk wrote: I've decided to pack away my little used - it was basically being used as a clock - O2 Joggler. I'm sure reading a while ago that someone on here was looking for one. If this is still the case, would you like to buy this one? It comes with box and instructions. Hi Mark I am certainly interested, depending on price obviously. Reply privately if you prefer. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.com wrote: Or buy a Sheva plug fro $99 I think this is a nice little ting http://www.plugcomputer.org/index.php/home And they do have UK versions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Yes - I can vouch for theseI've got a couple in the wild now and they're awesome devices for the money. ARM processor and run Debian very nicely, although not tried with Ubuntu (although apparently you get them now with Ubuntu preinstalled). http://newit.co.uk sell them in the UK. They support SD cards or you can mount USB HDD's. I personally use them for remote network monitoring and remote SOCKS proxies... but they have enough power to be (very) low end webservers or many other things :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
Hi all I have my Joggler up and running for some time now, but looks like it freeze at lease once a day and sometimes does not reboot very well (when the O2 logo comes up before Ubuntu then this O2 logo look a bit fuzzy and this is usually a sign it will not go further with the boot.) However this is not my concern at this stage, WHAT I am looking for this time is to know how to setup a File server on it, 1. I have a powered external USB drive attached 2. I have tried making use of GSamba that comes installed on the Joggler image 3. Installed SWAT but could not point my Firefox to it, did not startup 4. Tried the Samba config tool also. 5. I tried to hit (from an ubuntu PC) the IP address of the joggler and can ping it but connecting to a Windows Share returned smb://. could not be found/connect Any ideads Hello Comelius, I would not have thought that a joggler was reliable enough for a file server, unless you are doing it just for the challenge. My joggler often needs a reboot or just crashes Right I am running Ubuntu off my USB stick. Yes my joggler is also not stable crash and burn etc, but I like try. As I stated I have installed Samba and Swat BUT on trying to start smbd it state: un known command, I tried to locate smbd but could not locate it... -- _ Cornelius Mostert Senior IT Specialist United Kingdom: 075 2233 4818 International: 0044 75 2233 4818 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
Hello Comelius, I would not have thought that a joggler was reliable enough for a file server, unless you are doing it just for the challenge. My joggler often needs a reboot or just crashes All I can add is that if you want a quiet file server, you could get an Acer Revo 3610 - still some available at less than ?200 at ebuyer: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/200537 I would be interested to hear if someone does manage to get a stable joggler that is good enough for a file server though... and of course how you did it :-) Or buy a Sheva plug fro $99 I think this is a nice little ting http://www.plugcomputer.org/index.php/home And they do have UK versions -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
Right I am running Ubuntu off my USB stick. Yes my joggler is also not stable crash and burn etc, but I like try. As I stated I have installed Samba and Swat BUT on trying to start smbd it state: un known command, I tried to locate smbd but could not locate it... -- _ Cornelius Mostert I think you will find the service is called samba not smbd, when you start samba it start's processes of smbd and nmbd. So sudo /etc/init.d/samba start https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu/serverguide/C/configuring-samba.html Andy -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
Hi all I have my Joggler up and running for some time now, but looks like it freeze at lease once a day and sometimes does not reboot very well (when the O2 logo comes up before Ubuntu then this O2 logo look a bit fuzzy and this is usually a sign it will not go further with the boot.) However this is not my concern at this stage, WHAT I am looking for this time is to know how to setup a File server on it, 1. I have a powered external USB drive attached 2. I have tried making use of GSamba that comes installed on the Joggler image 3. Installed SWAT but could not point my Firefox to it, did not startup 4. Tried the Samba config tool also. 5. I tried to hit (from an ubuntu PC) the IP address of the joggler and can ping it but connecting to a Windows Share returned smb://. could not be found/connect Any ideads -- _ Cornelius Mostert Senior IT Specialist United Kingdom: 075 2233 4818 International: 0044 75 2233 4818 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
Hi Cornelius! To confirm, do you know if smbd is running or not on your joggler? You can test this by using the commands: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd stop sudo /etc/init.d/smbd start The first one will fail if you don't have it running in the first place. If the second command fails, there will likely be an issue with you samba configuration... Best, K. On 19 August 2010 09:06, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all I have my Joggler up and running for some time now, but looks like it freeze at lease once a day and sometimes does not reboot very well (when the O2 logo comes up before Ubuntu then this O2 logo look a bit fuzzy and this is usually a sign it will not go further with the boot.) However this is not my concern at this stage, WHAT I am looking for this time is to know how to setup a File server on it, 1. I have a powered external USB drive attached 2. I have tried making use of GSamba that comes installed on the Joggler image 3. Installed SWAT but could not point my Firefox to it, did not startup 4. Tried the Samba config tool also. 5. I tried to hit (from an ubuntu PC) the IP address of the joggler and can ping it but connecting to a Windows Share returned smb://. could not be found/connect Any ideads -- _ Cornelius Mostert Senior IT Specialist United Kingdom: 075 2233 4818 International: 0044 75 2233 4818 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
On 19 August 2010 09:06, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi all I have my Joggler up and running for some time now, but looks like it freeze at lease once a day and sometimes does not reboot very well (when the O2 logo comes up before Ubuntu then this O2 logo look a bit fuzzy and this is usually a sign it will not go further with the boot.) However this is not my concern at this stage, WHAT I am looking for this time is to know how to setup a File server on it, 1. I have a powered external USB drive attached 2. I have tried making use of GSamba that comes installed on the Joggler image 3. Installed SWAT but could not point my Firefox to it, did not startup 4. Tried the Samba config tool also. 5. I tried to hit (from an ubuntu PC) the IP address of the joggler and can ping it but connecting to a Windows Share returned smb://. could not be found/connect It is not clear to me what software you are running on the Joggler. Are you running the internal s/w (as is suggested by point 2 above) or booting off Ubuntu on your USB stick? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
On 19 August 2010 09:06, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi all I have my Joggler up and running for some time now, but looks like it freeze at lease once a day and sometimes does not reboot very well (when the O2 logo comes up before Ubuntu then this O2 logo look a bit fuzzy and this is usually a sign it will not go further with the boot.) However this is not my concern at this stage, WHAT I am looking for this time is to know how to setup a File server on it, 1. I have a powered external USB drive attached 2. I have tried making use of GSamba that comes installed on the Joggler image 3. Installed SWAT but could not point my Firefox to it, did not startup 4. Tried the Samba config tool also. 5. I tried to hit (from an ubuntu PC) the IP address of the joggler and can ping it but connecting to a Windows Share returned smb://. could not be found/connect Any ideads -- _ Cornelius Mostert Senior IT Specialist United Kingdom: 075 2233 4818 International: 0044 75 2233 4818 Hello Comelius, I would not have thought that a joggler was reliable enough for a file server, unless you are doing it just for the challenge. My joggler often needs a reboot or just crashes All I can add is that if you want a quiet file server, you could get an Acer Revo 3610 - still some available at less than £200 at ebuyer: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/200537 I would be interested to hear if someone does manage to get a stable joggler that is good enough for a file server though... and of course how you did it :-) Thank you. -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
On 19/08/10 16:03, John Stevenson wrote: I would be interested to hear if someone does manage to get a stable joggler that is good enough for a file server though... and of course how you did it :-) On the joggler wiki (http://www.jogglerwiki.info but seems to be down at the mo), there was a discussion about replacing the *plastic* heat-sink with something a bit more substantial using a dremel and a metal heat-sink from Farnell IIRC. I think this may well be the main cause of reliability issues. Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
On 19 August 2010 16:03, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com wrote: [...] Hello Comelius, I would not have thought that a joggler was reliable enough for a file server, unless you are doing it just for the challenge. My joggler often needs a reboot or just crashes I have mine running Disca's Ubuntu image collecting data from my weather station. I have had it running for several weeks and has not crashed yet as far as I can remember. It is not doing a lot however so the temperature problems that some have seen have not been an issue for me. I gather that some have had incompatibility problems with USB sticks. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
The heatsink is the metal support stand (there are some good disassembly videos on youtube) A juggle wouldn't be my first choice for a server, but would make a good front end Anton On 19 Aug 2010 16:14, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/08/10 16:03, John Stevenson wrote: I would be interested to hear if someone does manage to get a stable joggler that is good enough for a file server though... and of course how you did it :-) On the joggler wiki (http://www.jogglerwiki.info but seems to be down at the mo), there was a discussion about replacing the *plastic* heat-sink with something a bit more substantial using a dremel and a metal heat-sink from Farnell IIRC. I think this may well be the main cause of reliability issues. Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
On 19/08/10 16:20, Anton Piatek wrote: The heatsink is the metal support stand (there are some good disassembly videos on youtube) Not quite. The metal stand is part of it, but the bit that sticks onto the chips inside the case is - bizarrely - made of plastic: http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34t=403 Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler as a File server
Interesting... sounds more like the thermal transfer pads used commonly instead of good quality thermal paste like arctic silver. If you have heat problems I can strongly recommend arctic silver from my heavy overclocking days Anton On 19 Aug 2010 16:46, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/08/10 16:20, Anton Piatek wrote: The heatsink is the metal support stand (there are some good disassembly videos on youtube) Not quite. The metal stand is part of it, but the bit that sticks onto the chips inside the case is - bizarrely - made of plastic: http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34t=403 Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Joggler woes
I just want to get my Joggler story off my chest. It may make me feel better. I ordered one shortly after the initial price cut. Unfortunately by then they were out of stock but a few weeks later it arrived. I started it up and all seemed well. Off it went to download the latest software which appeared to go ok, but when it restarted it just sat there forever with the O2 logo and nothing else happened. I contacted their support team multiple times over the next couple of weeks while they attempted to sort it out. Meanwhile I got Ubuntu up and running on USB with only minor issues. Eventually O2 decided that I should return the unit and they would replace it. Even though I did not really need the built in s/w working I decided to do this in case I ever wanted to sell it, if my planned Ubuntu requirement did not come to fruition (running my weather station). I returned it and a few days later instead of a replacement I got an email saying that they had refunded my money. OK, I thought, it is back on offer at £49.99 so I can just order a new one. Unfortunately by this time it was out of stock and they were no longer accepting orders. All my local O2 stores were out of stock also. I rang sales but they are not accepting orders by phone either, and the girl I spoke to said she was not sure that there would be any more in. It is now approaching the end of the offer period and I do not know whether I will ever get one. I wish I had not sent it back now, but it is a bit late. :( Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler woes
Hiya Colin, Are you in the UK? I have a spare one i could ship to you for £49.99 +PP :) Could do it over ebay if you wanted/have an account so that we both get paypal protection. On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Daniel Case danielcas...@gmail.comwrote: Hiya Colin, Are you in the UK? I have a spare one i could ship to you for £49.99 +PP :) Could do it over ebay if you wanted/have an account so that we both get paypal protection. On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.comwrote: I just want to get my Joggler story off my chest. It may make me feel better. I ordered one shortly after the initial price cut. Unfortunately by then they were out of stock but a few weeks later it arrived. I started it up and all seemed well. Off it went to download the latest software which appeared to go ok, but when it restarted it just sat there forever with the O2 logo and nothing else happened. I contacted their support team multiple times over the next couple of weeks while they attempted to sort it out. Meanwhile I got Ubuntu up and running on USB with only minor issues. Eventually O2 decided that I should return the unit and they would replace it. Even though I did not really need the built in s/w working I decided to do this in case I ever wanted to sell it, if my planned Ubuntu requirement did not come to fruition (running my weather station). I returned it and a few days later instead of a replacement I got an email saying that they had refunded my money. OK, I thought, it is back on offer at £49.99 so I can just order a new one. Unfortunately by this time it was out of stock and they were no longer accepting orders. All my local O2 stores were out of stock also. I rang sales but they are not accepting orders by phone either, and the girl I spoke to said she was not sure that there would be any more in. It is now approaching the end of the offer period and I do not know whether I will ever get one. I wish I had not sent it back now, but it is a bit late. :( Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ~DanielC -- ~DanielC -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler running UNR
On 17 April 2010 23:54, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote: ... Errrm, OSK works fine, Im using OnBoard now, no problems. Just worked once accessibility was enabled in the menu editor. Kris, could you describe in a bit more detail what to do to get the on screen keyboard running, for one who is not sure what to enable where? Imagine I know nothing and you will be starting at the right point. Many thanks Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler running UNR
No problem. I'll just boot my pc now. Won't be a min. Kris Douglas, Sent from my HTC Hero On Apr 25, 2010 9:39 AM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: On 17 April 2010 23:54, Kris Douglas krisdoug...@gmail.com wrote: ... Errrm, OSK works fine, Im using OnBoard now, no problems. Just worked once accessibility was e... Kris, could you describe in a bit more detail what to do to get the on screen keyboard running, for one who is not sure what to enable where? Imagine I know nothing and you will be starting at the right point. Many thanks Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubu... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler Remote Desktop sharing
On 24/04/10 17:09, Colin Law wrote: Hi I am trying to get remote desktop sharing working with my O2 Joggler running Karmic UNE. I had to install vino and it works in the sense that I can connect, see the screen, move and click the mouse and type things, but the screen does not seem to be updating properly, sometimes it does not update when the joggler display changes. Has anyone successfully used vino on the joggler? I have seen freenx mentioned as an alternative, again has anyone tried it? It seems a little more complex to setup so I am just checking whether anyone has already tried before I give it a go. Perhaps there is another better alternative? Colin FreeNX is good, but it'll give you a separate X session rather than a session to the desktop running on the Joggler screen. I use FreeNX to occasionally connect to remote servers as it compresses what it sends and gives much better performance than say VNC when using a slow link. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler Remote Desktop sharing
FreeNX is good, but it'll give you a separate X session rather than a session to the desktop running on the Joggler screen. Snip In the FreeNX client you can specify a shadow session which joins the currently running X session. Not tried this with the joggler, but i use this for my desktop at work... P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler Remote Desktop sharing
On 25 April 2010 15:18, paul morgan-roach roa...@roachy.net wrote: FreeNX is good, but it'll give you a separate X session rather than a session to the desktop running on the Joggler screen. Snip In the FreeNX client you can specify a shadow session which joins the currently running X session. Not tried this with the joggler, but i use this for my desktop at work... It sounds like it is worth giving a go. It will not be for a couple of weeks though as I have things to do (other than playing with the joggler that is). I will report when I have tried it. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler Remote Desktop sharing
On 25/04/10 15:18, paul morgan-roach wrote: FreeNX is good, but it'll give you a separate X session rather than a session to the desktop running on the Joggler screen. Snip In the FreeNX client you can specify a shadow session which joins the currently running X session. Not tried this with the joggler, but i use this for my desktop at work... P Ahh I wasn't aware of this, I stand corrected. Actually that is a really good feature, I'll have a play later on. :-) Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Joggler Remote Desktop sharing
Hi I am trying to get remote desktop sharing working with my O2 Joggler running Karmic UNE. I had to install vino and it works in the sense that I can connect, see the screen, move and click the mouse and type things, but the screen does not seem to be updating properly, sometimes it does not update when the joggler display changes. Has anyone successfully used vino on the joggler? I have seen freenx mentioned as an alternative, again has anyone tried it? It seems a little more complex to setup so I am just checking whether anyone has already tried before I give it a go. Perhaps there is another better alternative? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler Remote Desktop sharing
On 24 April 2010 17:09, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: I am trying to get remote desktop sharing working with my O2 Joggler running Karmic UNE. I had to install vino and it works in the sense that I can connect, see the screen, move and click the mouse and type things, but the screen does not seem to be updating properly, sometimes it does not update when the joggler display changes. Has anyone successfully used vino on the joggler? I have seen freenx mentioned as an alternative, again has anyone tried it? It seems a little more complex to setup so I am just checking whether anyone has already tried before I give it a go. Perhaps there is another better alternative? This is almost certain due to the fact that UNR has a compiz-style (but not compiz) user interface which VNC has trouble with. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
HI I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works fine. In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding idle=halt to Grub.cfg. I can't find the file to edit. Can anyone help? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 13:30 +0100, Colin Law wrote: HI I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works fine. In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding idle=halt to Grub.cfg. I can't find the file to edit. Can anyone help? grub.cfg is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg However, this is an automatically generated file and I wouldn't update it directly. It is generated by the files that are in /etc/grub.d and uses the configuration file /etc/default/grub. There's a great online tutorial[1] if you want to have a go at customising grub. [1] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
On 22 April 2010 14:44, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 13:30 +0100, Colin Law wrote: HI I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works fine. In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding idle=halt to Grub.cfg. I can't find the file to edit. Can anyone help? grub.cfg is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg No it isn't, not on this image. That is what confused me. The only thing there is grubenv. Colin However, this is an automatically generated file and I wouldn't update it directly. It is generated by the files that are in /etc/grub.d and uses the configuration file /etc/default/grub. There's a great online tutorial[1] if you want to have a go at customising grub. [1] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
- Original message - On 22 April 2010 14:44, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 13:30 +0100, Colin Law wrote: HI I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works fine. In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding idle=halt to Grub.cfg. I can't find the file to edit. Can anyone help? grub.cfg is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg No it isn't, not on this image. That is what confused me. The only thing there is grubenv. Is there anything that could give you a hint in grubenv? Alternatively do any of the scripts in /etc/grub.d have any hint as to where the file is? Colin However, this is an automatically generated file and I wouldn't update it directly. It is generated by the files that are in /etc/grub.d and uses the configuration file /etc/default/grub. There's a great online tutorial[1] if you want to have a go at customising grub. [1] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: HI I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works fine. In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding idle=halt to Grub.cfg. I can't find the file to edit. Can anyone help? From discussion on this previously on the list, I think we concluded that the issue is most likely related to the powersaving of the audio chipset. That the audio chipset driver (ALSA) is not able to resume when the kernel decides to put the system in power saving mode. The workaround would be to indicate to ALSA not to enter in powersaving at all. The problem solution would be to contact the alsa-devel mailing list and ask for some help on this issue. See more for both at http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com/msg23128.html Daniel Case (from this list) sent an e-mail to alsa-devel, http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html but sadly there have been no reply. I do not own a Joggler (though I would really love to) so I can only give you guidance on how to solve. One way to solve the problem within this list would be to get the source code of the Joggler (see http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html ) and example the Linux kernel source code (includes ALSA). Then, identify the version of the kernel, grab the official stock Linux kernel from www.kernel.org, and perform a 'diff -r linus_kernel joggler_kernel' between the two directories (with source code). Any differences in the ALSA subdirectories would be changes that Joggler (OpenPeak) did to get sound working. These should be a few lines of changes, which should be easy to update to the latest Linux kernel. You can post these changes to the list. For a similar situation with audio driver support, see http://simos.info/blog/archives/984 Simos -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
Does 'locate grub.cfg' tell you where the file is? Otherwise, try the find command. I've only tried the telnet hack on my Joggler so far - it didn't work for me. I'm putting together a UNR usb stick now, to give that a go. On 4/22/10, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: HI I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works fine. In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding idle=halt to Grub.cfg. I can't find the file to edit. Can anyone help? From discussion on this previously on the list, I think we concluded that the issue is most likely related to the powersaving of the audio chipset. That the audio chipset driver (ALSA) is not able to resume when the kernel decides to put the system in power saving mode. The workaround would be to indicate to ALSA not to enter in powersaving at all. The problem solution would be to contact the alsa-devel mailing list and ask for some help on this issue. See more for both at http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com/msg23128.html Daniel Case (from this list) sent an e-mail to alsa-devel, http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html but sadly there have been no reply. I do not own a Joggler (though I would really love to) so I can only give you guidance on how to solve. One way to solve the problem within this list would be to get the source code of the Joggler (see http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html ) and example the Linux kernel source code (includes ALSA). Then, identify the version of the kernel, grab the official stock Linux kernel from www.kernel.org, and perform a 'diff -r linus_kernel joggler_kernel' between the two directories (with source code). Any differences in the ALSA subdirectories would be changes that Joggler (OpenPeak) did to get sound working. These should be a few lines of changes, which should be easy to update to the latest Linux kernel. You can post these changes to the list. For a similar situation with audio driver support, see http://simos.info/blog/archives/984 Simos -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Sent from my mobile device -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
HI I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works fine. In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding idle=halt to Grub.cfg. I can't find the file to edit. Can anyone help? Colin Joggler uses .efi instead of BIOS to boot. If you're booting from USB stick check the boot.nsh file. It should look like fs1: cd \efi\grub grub You're likely to find grub.cfg in the same folder as the grub.efi bootloader application. In this case it's at /etc/grub/grub.cfg Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg
You're likely to find grub.cfg in the same folder as the grub.efi bootloader application. In this case it's at /etc/grub/grub.cfg Sorry, that was a typo, it should be efi not etc (so you'll find it at /efi/grub/grub.cfg) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Joggler running UNR
Hi, I have got the Joggler running with sound and it seems to work really well, thanks very much for the info on how to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix. I still have the keyboard attached via a USB hub. How do you enable an on screen keyboard? I have managed to get onboard (Which is a on screen keyboard) to flash up and then appear to close. I tried Gok but that didn't seem to work properly either. I have the on screen keyboard on the X login though. Thanks, Toby. -- -- Toby Satchell BSc (hons) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler running UNR
Hi, I have got the Joggler running with sound and it seems to work really well, thanks very much for the info on how to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix. I still have the keyboard attached via a USB hub. How do you enable an on screen keyboard? I have managed to get onboard (Which is a on screen keyboard) to flash up and then appear to close. I tried Gok but that didn't seem to work properly either. I have the on screen keyboard on the X login though. Thanks, Toby. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Nice - Which instructions were you using? Also, do you have the touchscreen working too? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler running UNR
Heyy Chris I set up a JogglerWiki a while back, http://www.jogglerwiki.info The UNR instructions are here: http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix Touchscreen does work, however an onscreen keyboard is still a work in progress. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have got the Joggler running with sound and it seems to work really well, thanks very much for the info on how to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix. I still have the keyboard attached via a USB hub. How do you enable an on screen keyboard? I have managed to get onboard (Which is a on screen keyboard) to flash up and then appear to close. I tried Gok but that didn't seem to work properly either. I have the on screen keyboard on the X login though. Thanks, Toby. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Nice - Which instructions were you using? Also, do you have the touchscreen working too? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ~Daniel -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler running UNR
I have got the Joggler running with sound and it seems to work really well, thanks very much for the info on how to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix. I still have the keyboard attached via a USB hub. How do you enable an on screen keyboard? Thanks, Toby. Nice - Which instructions were you using? Also, do you have the touchscreen working too? Chris I used the instructions from the link below. http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix I have also been reading through bits linked from here the link below: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler Thanks, Toby. -- -- Toby Satchell BSc (hons) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler running UNR
On 17 April 2010 21:04, Toby Satchell tsatch...@gmail.com wrote: I have got the Joggler running with sound and it seems to work really well, thanks very much for the info on how to install Ubuntu Netbook Remix. I still have the keyboard attached via a USB hub. How do you enable an on screen keyboard? Thanks, Toby. Nice - Which instructions were you using? Also, do you have the touchscreen working too? Chris I used the instructions from the link below. http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix I have also been reading through bits linked from here the link below: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler Thanks, Toby. Errrm, OSK works fine, Im using OnBoard now, no problems. Just worked once accessibility was enabled in the menu editor. -- Kris Douglas, NODE Computer Systems Web Hosting, Design and Server Administration, Technical Support Computer Construction T. 02030518469 M. 07728574285 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
