[ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Colin Law
HI

I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in
http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works
fine.  In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding
idle=halt to Grub.cfg.  I can't find the file to edit.  Can anyone
help?

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Bruno Girin
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 13:30 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
 HI
 
 I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in
 http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works
 fine.  In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
 it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding
 idle=halt to Grub.cfg.  I can't find the file to edit.  Can anyone
 help?

grub.cfg is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg

However, this is an automatically generated file and I wouldn't update
it directly. It is generated by the files that are in /etc/grub.d and
uses the configuration file /etc/default/grub. There's a great online
tutorial[1] if you want to have a go at customising grub.

[1] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html

Bruno



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Colin Law
On 22 April 2010 14:44, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 13:30 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
 HI

 I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in
 http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works
 fine.  In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
 it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding
 idle=halt to Grub.cfg.  I can't find the file to edit.  Can anyone
 help?

 grub.cfg is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg

No it isn't, not on this image.  That is what confused me.  The only
thing there is grubenv.

Colin


 However, this is an automatically generated file and I wouldn't update
 it directly. It is generated by the files that are in /etc/grub.d and
 uses the configuration file /etc/default/grub. There's a great online
 tutorial[1] if you want to have a go at customising grub.

 [1] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html

 Bruno



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Bruno Girin

- Original message -
 On 22 April 2010 14:44, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 13:30 +0100, Colin Law wrote:
   HI
  
   I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in
   http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works
   fine.  In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
   it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding
   idle=halt to Grub.cfg.  I can't find the file to edit.  Can anyone
   help?
 
  grub.cfg is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg

 No it isn't, not on this image.  That is what confused me.  The only
 thing there is grubenv.

Is there anything that could give you a hint in grubenv? Alternatively do any 
of the scripts in /etc/grub.d have any hint as to where the file is?



 Colin

 
  However, this is an automatically generated file and I wouldn't update
  it directly. It is generated by the files that are in /etc/grub.d and
  uses the configuration file /etc/default/grub. There's a great online
  tutorial[1] if you want to have a go at customising grub.
 
  [1] http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
 
  Bruno
 
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Simos Xenitellis
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 HI

 I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in
 http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works
 fine.  In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
 it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding
 idle=halt to Grub.cfg.  I can't find the file to edit.  Can anyone
 help?

From discussion on this previously on the list, I think we concluded that
the issue is most likely related to the powersaving of the audio chipset.
That the audio chipset driver (ALSA) is not able to resume when the
kernel decides
to put the system in power saving mode. The workaround would be to indicate
to ALSA not to enter in powersaving at all. The problem solution would be
to contact the alsa-devel mailing list and ask for some help on this issue.
See more for both at
http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com/msg23128.html

Daniel Case (from this list) sent an e-mail to alsa-devel,
http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html
but sadly there have been no reply.

I do not own a Joggler (though I would really love to) so I can only give you
guidance on how to solve.

One way to solve the problem within this list would be to get the
source code of the Joggler
(see http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html
)
and example the Linux kernel source code (includes ALSA).
Then, identify the version of the kernel, grab the official stock
Linux kernel from www.kernel.org,
and perform a 'diff -r linus_kernel joggler_kernel' between the two
directories (with source code). Any differences
in the ALSA subdirectories would be changes that Joggler (OpenPeak)
did to get sound working.
These should be a few lines of changes, which should be easy to update
to the latest Linux kernel.
You can post these changes to the list.

For a similar situation with audio driver support, see
http://simos.info/blog/archives/984

Simos

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Neil Greenwood
Does 'locate grub.cfg' tell you where the file is? Otherwise, try the
find command.

I've only tried the telnet hack on my Joggler so far - it didn't work
for me. I'm putting together a UNR usb stick now, to give that a go.

On 4/22/10, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 HI

 I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in
 http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works
 fine.  In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
 it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding
 idle=halt to Grub.cfg.  I can't find the file to edit.  Can anyone
 help?

 From discussion on this previously on the list, I think we concluded that
 the issue is most likely related to the powersaving of the audio chipset.
 That the audio chipset driver (ALSA) is not able to resume when the
 kernel decides
 to put the system in power saving mode. The workaround would be to indicate
 to ALSA not to enter in powersaving at all. The problem solution would be
 to contact the alsa-devel mailing list and ask for some help on this issue.
 See more for both at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com/msg23128.html

 Daniel Case (from this list) sent an e-mail to alsa-devel,
 http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html
 but sadly there have been no reply.

 I do not own a Joggler (though I would really love to) so I can only give
 you
 guidance on how to solve.

 One way to solve the problem within this list would be to get the
 source code of the Joggler
 (see
 http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2010-April/026774.html
 )
 and example the Linux kernel source code (includes ALSA).
 Then, identify the version of the kernel, grab the official stock
 Linux kernel from www.kernel.org,
 and perform a 'diff -r linus_kernel joggler_kernel' between the two
 directories (with source code). Any differences
 in the ALSA subdirectories would be changes that Joggler (OpenPeak)
 did to get sound working.
 These should be a few lines of changes, which should be easy to update
 to the latest Linux kernel.
 You can post these changes to the list.

 For a similar situation with audio driver support, see
 http://simos.info/blog/archives/984

 Simos

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Chris Rowson
 HI

 I have picked up the flash image from dysentry referenced in
 http://www.joggler.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33t=235 and it works
 fine.  In http://www.jogglerwiki.info/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix
 it is suggested the the crackling sound can be fixed by adding
 idle=halt to Grub.cfg.  I can't find the file to edit.  Can anyone
 help?

 Colin


Joggler uses .efi instead of BIOS to boot. If you're booting from USB stick
check the boot.nsh file. It should look like

fs1:
cd \efi\grub
grub

You're likely to find grub.cfg in the same folder as the grub.efi bootloader
application. In this case it's at /etc/grub/grub.cfg

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joggler crackling, idle=halt in Grub.cfg

2010-04-22 Thread Chris Rowson

 You're likely to find grub.cfg in the same folder as the grub.efi
 bootloader application. In this case it's at /etc/grub/grub.cfg


Sorry, that was a typo, it should be efi not etc (so you'll find it at
/efi/grub/grub.cfg)

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