Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Pope
2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
> I've already signed up for an account, I just can't be bothered to enter
> my login details every time I login.  I'd have thought it would just
> remember the details in the application itself (like how Network Manager
> remembers my wireless network key).
>

You shouldn't need to enter your details every boot. If you do then
it's either a bug or there is a problem at the server side. I know
that they have had issues with the server side in the past which
resulted in people being asked to sign in again.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Pope
2009/10/27 John Levin :
> What tools are these? And are they available for Jaunty, if not
> installed by default? OS X has something similar (the name escapes me
> atm) which has saved my proverbial bacon before.
>

gnome-disk-utility. I don't believe it's in Jaunty, only karmic
onwards. It was developed by Red Hat.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Alan Pope
2009/10/27 Daniel Drummond :
> This is due to the inclusion of drive monitoring tools in Karmic.  They
> weren't present in Jaunty, which is why you only found out when you
> installed Karmic.  I've had a warning up about one of my drives, but it
> is pretty much brand new, and hasn't been used much.  Looking at the
> report it gave me makes me think it isn't on it's last legs, but the
> values being reported by the hard drive are not very accurate.
>

It now no longer nags you about disk failure in the way it used to.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread John Levin
On 27/10/2009 12:31, Daniel Drummond wrote:

>>
> This is due to the inclusion of drive monitoring tools in Karmic.  They
> weren't present in Jaunty, which is why you only found out when you
> installed Karmic.  I've had a warning up about one of my drives, but it
> is pretty much brand new, and hasn't been used much.  Looking at the
> report it gave me makes me think it isn't on it's last legs, but the
> values being reported by the hard drive are not very accurate.
>

What tools are these? And are they available for Jaunty, if not 
installed by default? OS X has something similar (the name escapes me 
atm) which has saved my proverbial bacon before.

Best

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread John Levin
On 27/10/2009 10:20, etali wrote:
> John Levin wrote:
>> On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu
>> version hasn't got online "out of the box" for me. Very disappointing.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
> I've only just subscribed to this list.  How long ago did you download
> your Karmic install?  I've been testing Karmic on a spare box and had
> tons of problems getting online with the previous betas, but yesterday I
> downloaded Karmic Final (testing), and it seems to have fixed all my
> problems.
>
>

I was using the release candidate, both for my Lenovo laptop and as a vm 
image.

John



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> 2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
>>
>>> One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an
>>> Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this
>>> popping up every time?
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You could remove Ubuntu One from the list of Startup Applications, or
>> remove ubuntu-one completely from the system (using Synaptic or
>> whatever). Otherwise you could sign up for an Ubuntu One account and
>> take advantage of the free 2GB backup/sync space!
>>
>>
> I've already signed up for an account, I just can't be bothered to enter
> my login details every time I login.  I'd have thought it would just
> remember the details in the application itself (like how Network Manager
> remembers my wireless network key).
>
> Ahh well, I'll look at disabling it at start up.
>
> Rob
>

Actually this sounds like a bug I remember from a while back. I've had
a quick search on Launchpad but I haven't found the bug I remember
(which is a little annoying) but IIRC it was fixable. It was either
the Launchpad cookie not being set correctly for the OpenID login (so
you need to delete the cookies for launchpad and ubuntuone from
Firefox) or the keyring entry not being updated, so delete the
UbuntuOne token from Accessories, Password and Encryption Keys.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
>   
>> One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an
>> Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this
>> popping up every time?
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> 
>
> You could remove Ubuntu One from the list of Startup Applications, or
> remove ubuntu-one completely from the system (using Synaptic or
> whatever). Otherwise you could sign up for an Ubuntu One account and
> take advantage of the free 2GB backup/sync space!
>
>   
I've already signed up for an account, I just can't be bothered to enter 
my login details every time I login.  I'd have thought it would just 
remember the details in the application itself (like how Network Manager 
remembers my wireless network key).

Ahh well, I'll look at disabling it at start up.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Daniel Drummond
Rob Beard wrote:
> Sean Miller wrote:
>   
>> I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
>> hard drive is dying.
>>
>> Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>   
>> 
> Surely it's good to know so you can make sure you have up to date 
> backups.  I've just had a 1TB hard drive fail on me, luckily I've 
> managed to get it running again to get the important stuff off of it, 
> but I didn't have any pre-warnings, and I can't afford the cost of 
> professional data recovery so if the drive dies, I'm stuffed unless I 
> have a recent backup.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>   
This is due to the inclusion of drive monitoring tools in Karmic.  They 
weren't present in Jaunty, which is why you only found out when you 
installed Karmic.  I've had a warning up about one of my drives, but it 
is pretty much brand new, and hasn't been used much.  Looking at the 
report it gave me makes me think it isn't on it's last legs, but the 
values being reported by the hard drive are not very accurate.

On the other hand I *may* have been sold a drive that has been used 
before, in which case I'm a little annoyed.  :-S

Either way just because Jaunty doesn't report the problem, doesn't mean 
it isn't there.  You can disable it if you want to in Karmic.

Dan

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
> One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an
> Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this
> popping up every time?
>
> Rob
>
>

You could remove Ubuntu One from the list of Startup Applications, or
remove ubuntu-one completely from the system (using Synaptic or
whatever). Otherwise you could sign up for an Ubuntu One account and
take advantage of the free 2GB backup/sync space!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Sean Miller wrote:
> I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
> hard drive is dying.
>
> Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.
>
> Sean
>
>   
Surely it's good to know so you can make sure you have up to date 
backups.  I've just had a 1TB hard drive fail on me, luckily I've 
managed to get it running again to get the important stuff off of it, 
but I didn't have any pre-warnings, and I can't afford the cost of 
professional data recovery so if the drive dies, I'm stuffed unless I 
have a recent backup.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Rob Beard
Matt Daubney wrote:
> I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
> RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
> performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
> my laptop. 
>
> If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
> release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.
>
> -Matt Daubney
>   
Same here.  Only big problem I had was with Flash but after a bit of 
Googling I found a fix for that.

I'd say since the Alphas (I think I used Alpha 4 or 5 first) it is 
getting progressively quicker and prettier.  When the full version is 
released I'm going to give my laptop a complete reinstall and probably 
go completely over to ext4 too.

One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an 
Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this 
popping up every time?

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rowson
>
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:13:52 +, Chris Rowson
>  wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
> >>> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
> >>> Leopard.
> >>>
> >>> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
> >>> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
> >>> claims to be able to touch the net.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >>>
> >>> John
> >
> > I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that
> > this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted
> before
> > Thursday.
> >
> > Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
> machines
> > I
> > tested it on. :-(
> >
> > Chris
>
> I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
> RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
> performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
> my laptop.
>
> If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
> release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.
>
> -Matt Daubney



I notice that the DNS / potential IPv6 bug has been reported and has loads
of activity against it. Nothing seems to be happening though.

For one laptop after the network / graphics / CPU power management all went
wrong I kinda got a bit fed up lol!

I might sit this release out...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
etali wrote:
> John Levin wrote:
>> On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:
>>   
>> I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu 
>> version hasn't got online "out of the box" for me. Very disappointing.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>   
> I've only just subscribed to this list.  How long ago did you download 
> your Karmic install?  I've been testing Karmic on a spare box and had 
> tons of problems getting online with the previous betas, but yesterday I 
> downloaded Karmic Final (testing), and it seems to have fixed all my 
> problems.
> 

For some reason, I've been having trouble with DNS resolution since
rebooting onto the RC. I'm having to run "sudo dhclient" manually, to
force my computer to get an IP address, and load the nameservers.

Might be worth a shot...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread etali
John Levin wrote:
> On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:
>   
>>
>
> I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu 
> version hasn't got online "out of the box" for me. Very disappointing.
>
> John
>
>
>   
I've only just subscribed to this list.  How long ago did you download 
your Karmic install?  I've been testing Karmic on a spare box and had 
tons of problems getting online with the previous betas, but yesterday I 
downloaded Karmic Final (testing), and it seems to have fixed all my 
problems.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Nick
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 09:29 +, Matt Daubney wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:13:52 +, Chris Rowson
>  wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
> >>> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
> >>> Leopard.
> >>>
> >>> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
> >>> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
> >>> claims to be able to touch the net.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
> >>>
> >>> TIA
> >>>
> >>> John
> > 
> > I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that
> > this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted
> before
> > Thursday.
> > 
> > Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
> machines
> > I
> > tested it on. :-(
> > 
> > Chris
> 
> I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
> RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
> performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
> my laptop. 
> 
> If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
> release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.
> 
> -Matt Daubney
> 
> 
+ 1 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread John Levin
On 27/10/2009 08:47, LeeGroups wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>> I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad
>> that this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is
>> sorted before Thursday.
>>
>> Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
>> machines I tested it on. :-(
> On the other hand, I've installed Karmic on one laptop, a Dell Latitude
> D351, a couple of years old I think.
> It installed without any issues, found the wireless card, had a little
> moan about lack of open source drivers and installed a closed source one.
> Everything works, 64bit too. The only thing I had to do manually was
> download 64bit Flash and unzip it to the right directory.
> Superb.
>
> My only gripe, is that the top toolbar icons look a bit, err, dated...
>
>
>

I've now gone back to Jaunty. This is the first time that any Ubuntu 
version hasn't got online "out of the box" for me. Very disappointing.

John


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Matt Daubney


On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:32:49 +, Sean Miller 
wrote:
> I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
> hard drive is dying.
> 
> Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.
> 
> Sean

That's one thing I'd definatley want to know! Make sure your backups are
upto date, and use smartmon to find out what exactley is wrong with it.
Just because something doesn't say there's a problem, doesn't mean it'll go
away!

-Matt Daubney


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Sean Miller
I will only install Karmic again if it promises me it won't tell me my
hard drive is dying.

Jaunty has never done, and if it is dying I'd honestly rather not know.

Sean

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Matt Daubney

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:13:52 +, Chris Rowson
 wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
>>> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
>>> Leopard.
>>>
>>> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
>>> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
>>> claims to be able to touch the net.
>>>
>>> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> John
> 
> I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that
> this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted
before
> Thursday.
> 
> Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both
machines
> I
> tested it on. :-(
> 
> Chris

I've been running Karmic since about Alpha 5 and had very few problems. The
RC (on the 3 machines I'm running anyway) seems to be quite stable. The
performance improvements are quite startling, especially the boot time on
my laptop. 

If you have found some problems, make sure you report bugs! The next
release is an LTS so should be by far more stable on release.

-Matt Daubney


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread LeeGroups



>  
> I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad 
> that this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is 
> sorted before Thursday.
>
> Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both 
> machines I tested it on. :-(
On the other hand, I've installed Karmic on one laptop, a Dell Latitude 
D351, a couple of years old I think.
It installed without any issues, found the wireless card, had a little 
moan about lack of open source drivers and installed a closed source one.
Everything works, 64bit too. The only thing I had to do manually was 
download 64bit Flash and unzip it to the right directory.
Superb.

My only gripe, is that the top toolbar icons look a bit, err, dated...



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-26 Thread Chris Rowson
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
>> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
>> Leopard.
>>
>> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
>> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
>> claims to be able to touch the net.
>>
>> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> John

I also had similar problems. Disabled IPv6 in Firefox. It's very bad that
this bug is present so close to release. I hope that this is sorted before
Thursday.

Personally I have found Karmic to be pretty much unusable on both machines I
tested it on. :-(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-26 Thread John Levin
On 26/10/2009 20:54, Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
> 2009/10/26 John Levin:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
>> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
>> Leopard.
>>
>> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
>> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
>> claims to be able to touch the net.
>>
>> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> John
>>
>
> Reboot, press ESC to bring up the GRUB menu, press "e" to edit the
> kernel line, add "ipv6.disable=1" (no quotes) to the end of the line
> that ends "quiet splash". Press Ctrl-X to boot.
>
> Congrats, you've just disabled IPV6 globally - is that any better?
>

Many thanks for that.

I can now get on the web with firefox, but synaptic is still not finding 
any repositories. Do I have to disable ipv6 somewhere else as well?

TIA

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/26 John Levin :
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
> Leopard.
>
> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
> claims to be able to touch the net.
>
> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
>
> TIA
>
> John
>

Reboot, press ESC to bring up the GRUB menu, press "e" to edit the
kernel line, add "ipv6.disable=1" (no quotes) to the end of the line
that ends "quiet splash". Press Ctrl-X to boot.

Congrats, you've just disabled IPV6 globally - is that any better?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-26 Thread James Milligan
Have you installed the Guest Additions correctly?

Proxy/Static IP?

James

John Levin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my 
> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow 
> Leopard.
>
> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get 
> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test 
> claims to be able to touch the net.
>
> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
>
> TIA
>
> John
>
>   


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[ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-26 Thread John Levin
Hi,

I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my 
Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow 
Leopard.

It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get 
anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test 
claims to be able to touch the net.

Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?

TIA

John

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