Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-06 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:22:16PM +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
> On 04/05/12 19:59, Dave Morley wrote:
> >You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
> >clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.
> 
> um, do be careful not to accidentally overshoot and upgrade to
> Quantal Quetzal! upgrade-manager -d will show releases in
> development, which might not be what you are after.

Not when configured to show only LTS releases, which is the default if
(as the OP) you're running 10.04 LTS; in that case you'll get those
listed in http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts-development,
i.e. -d => 12.04.

Upgrades to 12.04 will become available to 10.04 users by default (i.e.
without -d) when 12.04.1 is released.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Pete Smout

On 04/05/12 22:39, Alan Pope wrote:

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On 04/05/12 12:28, Keith Burnett wrote:

Hello Alan and all

So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical
support contract.

How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to
appear in software update?



Yup. It will appear soon. Usually around 12.04.1 which is scheduled
for mid July. I asked around and there's no known bugs in the upgrade,
so you could upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04 now, but it's safer
to wait.



Hi,

thanks for the info in the process of backing up some important bits, 
will atempt sys upgrade tomorrow, after running apt-get install 
ubuntu-desktop^


will report on list any issues (hopefully none :) ) I encounter unless 
easily solved (lost bookmarks, passwords etc)


Regards

Pete Smout




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Pope
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On 04/05/12 12:28, Keith Burnett wrote:
> Hello Alan and all
> 
> So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical
> support contract.
> 
> How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to
> appear in software update?
> 

Yup. It will appear soon. Usually around 12.04.1 which is scheduled
for mid July. I asked around and there's no known bugs in the upgrade,
so you could upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04 now, but it's safer
to wait.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Andy Braben
On 4 May 2012 20:28, Keith Burnett  wrote:

> Hello Alan and all
>
> So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical support
> contract.
>
> How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to appear in
> software update?
>
> Cheers
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> From: Alan Bell
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS
> upgrade
> Sent: 4 May 2012 20:22
>
> On 04/05/12 19:59, Dave Morley wrote:
> > You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
> > clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.
> um, do be careful not to accidentally overshoot and upgrade to Quantal
> Quetzal! upgrade-manager -d will show releases in development, which
> might not be what you are after.
>
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I believe that update-manager -d will take you to the next version / next
LTS version based on the version you are running, so I don't think there is
any danger of hitting Quantal  unless you hit update-manager -d on Precise.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Keith Burnett
Hello Alan and all

So suppose I had a number of 10.04 desktops but no Canonical support contract.

How would I upgrade to 12.04? Just wait for the LTS option to appear in 
software update?

Cheers
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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade
Sent: 4 May 2012 20:22

On 04/05/12 19:59, Dave Morley wrote:
> You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
> clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.
um, do be careful not to accidentally overshoot and upgrade to Quantal 
Quetzal! upgrade-manager -d will show releases in development, which 
might not be what you are after.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Alan Bell

On 04/05/12 19:59, Dave Morley wrote:

You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.
um, do be careful not to accidentally overshoot and upgrade to Quantal 
Quetzal! upgrade-manager -d will show releases in development, which 
might not be what you are after.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Andy Braben
On 4 May 2012 19:59, Dave Morley  wrote:

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> On 04/05/12 19:48, Pete Smout wrote:
> > Hi, I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop
> > / server) and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now),
> > yet the graphical update manager is not informing me that an
> > upgrade is possible even though I have it set to show LTS versions
> > only.
> >
> > If I set it to 'normal releases' it shows 10.10 as available but
> > no mention of the 11's or the new LTS. When switched back to show
> > LTS versions only it still shows 10.10 as being available?
> >
> > Is this normal?
> >
> > Please note if I wish I can do a dist upgrade via teminal I know
> > but less knowledgeable(?!?) users who are relatively new to the
> > LINUX world may be unaware / scared of this way of doing it.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
> clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.


I believe 12.04.1 will show in update manager when set to show LTS versions
only.

10.10 will show as the next version, upgrades jumping versions except LTS
to LTS are not supported, so 11.04 and 11.10 will not be shown.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Dave Morley
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On 04/05/12 19:48, Pete Smout wrote:
> Hi, I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop
> / server) and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now),
> yet the graphical update manager is not informing me that an
> upgrade is possible even though I have it set to show LTS versions
> only.
> 
> If I set it to 'normal releases' it shows 10.10 as available but
> no mention of the 11's or the new LTS. When switched back to show
> LTS versions only it still shows 10.10 as being available?
> 
> Is this normal?
> 
> Please note if I wish I can do a dist upgrade via teminal I know
> but less knowledgeable(?!?) users who are relatively new to the
> LINUX world may be unaware / scared of this way of doing it.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
You can do "update-manager -d" However I would wait till there is a
clear upgrade path, or do a fresh install to get around it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Kris Douglas
On 4 May 2012 19:55, Anton Kanishchev  wrote:
> I dont know if this would work but would burning a dvd of 12.04 lts and
> mounting it on your machine not allow you to update anyway???
>
>
> On 4 May 2012 19:48, Pete Smout  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop / server)
>> and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now), yet the graphical
>> update manager is not informing me that an upgrade is possible even though I
>> have it set to show LTS versions only.
>>
>> If I set it to 'normal releases' it shows 10.10 as available but no
>> mention of the 11's or the new LTS. When switched back to show LTS versions
>> only it still shows 10.10 as being available?
>>
>> Is this normal?
>>
>> Please note if I wish I can do a dist upgrade via teminal I know but less
>> knowledgeable(?!?) users who are relatively new to the LINUX world may be
>> unaware / scared of this way of doing it.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Pete


Hello, open a terminal and type "update-manager -d" without quotes.

This should give you access to the distribution update button.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Anton Kanishchev
I dont know if this would work but would burning a dvd of 12.04 lts and
mounting it on your machine not allow you to update anyway???

On 4 May 2012 19:48, Pete Smout  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop / server)
> and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now), yet the graphical
> update manager is not informing me that an upgrade is possible even though
> I have it set to show LTS versions only.
>
> If I set it to 'normal releases' it shows 10.10 as available but no
> mention of the 11's or the new LTS. When switched back to show LTS versions
> only it still shows 10.10 as being available?
>
> Is this normal?
>
> Please note if I wish I can do a dist upgrade via teminal I know but less
> knowledgeable(?!?) users who are relatively new to the LINUX world may be
> unaware / scared of this way of doing it.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Pete
>
>
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[ubuntu-uk] Lucid Update Manager not informing Me of LTS upgrade

2012-05-04 Thread Pete Smout

Hi,
I have 1 remaining machine to upgrade to 12.04 (my main desktop / 
server) and it is running 10.04 lucid (fully updated as of now), yet the 
graphical update manager is not informing me that an upgrade is possible 
even though I have it set to show LTS versions only.


If I set it to 'normal releases' it shows 10.10 as available but no 
mention of the 11's or the new LTS. When switched back to show LTS 
versions only it still shows 10.10 as being available?


Is this normal?

Please note if I wish I can do a dist upgrade via teminal I know but 
less knowledgeable(?!?) users who are relatively new to the LINUX world 
may be unaware / scared of this way of doing it.


Kind regards

Pete


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