Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-18 Thread pmgazz



On 16/09/10 22:53, Grant Sewell wrote:

O


   I'm sure the BBC have thoroughly tested it in all versions of
   everything available to have come up with this statement.


   
Umm, well that's not exactly what they said lol - I'd already 
established that it didn't work on Lucid and figured it out via trial 
and error, discussion on forums and checking bug reports before emailing 
BBC to ask them to sort it out. After pointing it out on their forum and 
emailing them when I got no reply (and no doubt lots of other people 
complained too), BBC doesn't say anything about Lucid but now lists 
Ubuntu versions up to Karmic on their website as compatible. Apparently 
it also works on Suse.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-18 Thread pmgazz



You can install 32 bit air on 10.04, even 64-bit. Essentially, you need
to download the .bin (not the .deb) version.

   
It's really easy to install Air onto Lucid, as I understand it, problem 
is the iPlayer doesn't work with the version of Air in the repos. You 
might be able to sort it out you have a couple of afternoons free but I 
don't at the mo ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-17 Thread Glen Mehn
  On 16/09/2010 18:19, Tony Pursell wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote:
>> Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit
>> browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine.
>>
>>
>> Steve
> It seems that what you cannot do is download programs because that needs
> Air and Air does not install on Lucid. I.e you can only watch programs
> streamed in your browser.
>
>
You can install 32 bit air on 10.04, even 64-bit. Essentially, you need 
to download the .bin (not the .deb) version.

I use it for tweetdeck and iplayer-- though my iplayer often hangs when 
downloading.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/how-to-install-adobe-air-in-ubuntu-10-10-64bit/

(there are other similar suggestions)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Grant Sewell
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:03:25 +0100
pmgazz wrote:

> 
> On 16/09/10 18:48, Alan Bell wrote:
> >
> > The adobe air iplayer app works for me on Maverick, pretty sure I
> > have it on a Lucid box too. Works on Maverick in 32 bit and in 64
> > bit.
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> Nu-uh, I emailed BBC and they said only works up to Karmic.
> 
> Paula

  I'm sure the BBC have thoroughly tested it in all versions of
  everything available to have come up with this statement.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Tony Pursell
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:21 +0100, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
> flash doesn't work properly at all on mine, how did you get it to
> work?
> 
> On 16 September 2010 18:19, Tony Pursell 
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote:
> > Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works,
> 64bit
> > browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> 
> 
> It seems that what you cannot do is download programs because
> that needs
> Air and Air does not install on Lucid. I.e you can only watch
> programs
> streamed in your browser.
> 
> Tony
> 

What I had was it just kept telling me to install a new version, even
after I had downloaded and installed it.  Finally I removed a plugin
folder, and its contents, in my home directory.  I can't quite remember
where it was. Probably under ~/.adobe.

Tony






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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
silly bbc

On 16 September 2010 19:03, pmgazz  wrote:

>
> On 16/09/10 18:48, Alan Bell wrote:
>
>
> The adobe air iplayer app works for me on Maverick, pretty sure I have
> it on a Lucid box too. Works on Maverick in 32 bit and in 64 bit.
>
> Alan.
>
>
>  Nu-uh, I emailed BBC and they said only works up to Karmic.
>
> Paula
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz


On 16/09/10 18:48, Alan Bell wrote:


The adobe air iplayer app works for me on Maverick, pretty sure I have
it on a Lucid box too. Works on Maverick in 32 bit and in 64 bit.

Alan.
   

Nu-uh, I emailed BBC and they said only works up to Karmic.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Bell
On 16/09/10 13:46, pmgazz wrote:
> I had a similar heart-searching around Adobe Air - I work with
> non-profits for whom fundraising is core - most funders issue
> badly-constructed pdf forms and trying to fill these in with Evince is
> still a work in progress. I can manage to do it because I know Evince
> fairly well and what it can and can't do and don't mind working around
> it - my clients were having total nervous breakdowns.
>
> Getting rid of Adobe's ghastly, bloated and tentacled reader was a
> major plus in moving to Ubuntu for me ;)  However, my clients really
> really weren't coping. I now put Acroread onto Ubuntu Desktops where
> people need to deal with pdf forms. Hate it, but there it is.
>
> And, until I upgraded to 10.04 and BBC iPlayer didn't, I used to
> install Air (grumbling all the way) so I can run the iPlayer on my
> desktop. I'm really committed to Free Software but I'm not a hermit ;)
>
> By the way, is there something we could (collectively) do to hassle
> the BCC to sort out the iPlayer for Lucid (and Maverick - or is it
> fixed on Maverick? I haven't had time to install it yet).
>
> Paula
The adobe air iplayer app works for me on Maverick, pretty sure I have
it on a Lucid box too. Works on Maverick in 32 bit and in 64 bit.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
This may be of interest:

http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/adobe-flash-player-square-102-64bit.html
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz



Don't understand, Lucid64 install, flash works (10.1.82.76) and BBC iPlayer
works (Air not installed) what am I missing?


 

I mean the Desktop version, the browser version works OK.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
On 16 September 2010 18:21, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:

> flash doesn't work properly at all on mine, how did you get it to work?
>
>
> On 16 September 2010 18:19, Tony Pursell wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote:
>> > Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit
>> > browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine.
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve
>>
>> It seems that what you cannot do is download programs because that needs
>> Air and Air does not install on Lucid. I.e you can only watch programs
>> streamed in your browser.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
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Must of got it installed before it was withdrawn, other than that dunno.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
flash doesn't work properly at all on mine, how did you get it to work?

On 16 September 2010 18:19, Tony Pursell wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote:
> > Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit
> > browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine.
> >
> >
> > Steve
>
> It seems that what you cannot do is download programs because that needs
> Air and Air does not install on Lucid. I.e you can only watch programs
> streamed in your browser.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Tony Pursell
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 18:13 +0100, Steve Fisher wrote:
> Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit
> browser (Chromium) and iPlayer works fine.
> 
> 
> Steve

It seems that what you cannot do is download programs because that needs
Air and Air does not install on Lucid. I.e you can only watch programs
streamed in your browser.

Tony




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
Well that answers part of it, but not why mine still works, 64bit browser
(Chromium) and iPlayer works fine.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/000/6b3af6c9.html

On 16 September 2010 17:48, Steve Fisher  wrote:

> Don't understand, Lucid64 install, flash works (10.1.82.76) and BBC iPlayer
> works (Air not installed) what am I missing?
>
> Steve
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Steve Fisher
Don't understand, Lucid64 install, flash works (10.1.82.76) and BBC iPlayer
works (Air not installed) what am I missing?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I currently don't like adobe because of the lack of x64 support for flash >
no web games/movies

On 16 September 2010 13:46, pmgazz  wrote:

>  I had a similar heart-searching around Adobe Air - I work with non-profits
> for whom fundraising is core - most funders issue badly-constructed pdf
> forms and trying to fill these in with Evince is still a work in progress. I
> can manage to do it because I know Evince fairly well and what it can and
> can't do and don't mind working around it - my clients were having total
> nervous breakdowns.
>
> Getting rid of Adobe's ghastly, bloated and tentacled reader was a major
> plus in moving to Ubuntu for me ;)  However, my clients really really
> weren't coping. I now put Acroread onto Ubuntu Desktops where people need to
> deal with pdf forms. Hate it, but there it is.
>
> And, until I upgraded to 10.04 and BBC iPlayer didn't, I used to install
> Air (grumbling all the way) so I can run the iPlayer on my desktop. I'm
> really committed to Free Software but I'm not a hermit ;)
>
> By the way, is there something we could (collectively) do to hassle the BCC
> to sort out the iPlayer for Lucid (and Maverick - or is it fixed on
> Maverick? I haven't had time to install it yet).
>
> Paula
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[ubuntu-uk] MS vs. OO - and Adobe!

2010-09-16 Thread pmgazz
I had a similar heart-searching around Adobe Air - I work with 
non-profits for whom fundraising is core - most funders issue 
badly-constructed pdf forms and trying to fill these in with Evince is 
still a work in progress. I can manage to do it because I know Evince 
fairly well and what it can and can't do and don't mind working around 
it - my clients were having total nervous breakdowns.


Getting rid of Adobe's ghastly, bloated and tentacled reader was a major 
plus in moving to Ubuntu for me ;)  However, my clients really really 
weren't coping. I now put Acroread onto Ubuntu Desktops where people 
need to deal with pdf forms. Hate it, but there it is.


And, until I upgraded to 10.04 and BBC iPlayer didn't, I used to install 
Air (grumbling all the way) so I can run the iPlayer on my desktop. I'm 
really committed to Free Software but I'm not a hermit ;)


By the way, is there something we could (collectively) do to hassle the 
BCC to sort out the iPlayer for Lucid (and Maverick - or is it fixed on 
Maverick? I haven't had time to install it yet).


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