[ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
Ok same old dead topic i know. Im looking to buy a house and obviously my first thoughts in this new house are connectivity. Basically I want to use my pc as hub for all my entertainment. It will be stored in a seperate room where it will be connected to 26 moniter doing pc things but i also want to beam the media into the main living room where a bigger tv will reside. Naturally i want to do this without the aide of wires. Im thinking connect up an xbox1 to a tv and beam across the media from my ubuntu pc to my xbox. But my old xbox doesnt have wifi (it does have media centre). Or maybe that has some kind of wifi built in! I then want to use my G1 Android phone to control everything. Like a remote. I know there is an OS (in linux) that does all this and more but thats more of the software side of things im looking more of the hardware issues. ps my pc currently doesnt have wifi so that would be the first thing to look at! pps im so excited at the prospects of this! :) -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
Hi, I have a similar set up to the one you want. I have an Ubuntu box sharing folders using SAMBA, connected to a wired network, along with an old Xbox with XBMC. There's not much else to it. I'm not sure if there is anything like a wireless remote for a G1. However the Xbox does have a python interpreter installed so you could write your own. Hardware wise the old Xbox doesn't come with wireless. You can't use a USB wireless dongle unless you install something like Linux for the Xbox, but then XBMC won't work. You'd also have to hack the dongle to work with the Xbox's USB ports (which are the controller ports). There are ethernet--wireless adapters out there (http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=19624wysiwyg=10) but they are pretty expensive. Just get a long ethernet cable and be done with it! Or maybe use one of the ethernet-over-power things (http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/default_ShopGroup.asp?ShopGroupID=61Alt=Yes). You're still stuck with the G1 bit, but I'd reccomend getting a Xbox remote control from ebay or something. XBMC has been designed to use it well. Good luck. Ciaran On 3/12/09, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Ok same old dead topic i know. Im looking to buy a house and obviously my first thoughts in this new house are connectivity. Basically I want to use my pc as hub for all my entertainment. It will be stored in a seperate room where it will be connected to 26 moniter doing pc things but i also want to beam the media into the main living room where a bigger tv will reside. Naturally i want to do this without the aide of wires. Im thinking connect up an xbox1 to a tv and beam across the media from my ubuntu pc to my xbox. But my old xbox doesnt have wifi (it does have media centre). Or maybe that has some kind of wifi built in! I then want to use my G1 Android phone to control everything. Like a remote. I know there is an OS (in linux) that does all this and more but thats more of the software side of things im looking more of the hardware issues. ps my pc currently doesnt have wifi so that would be the first thing to look at! pps im so excited at the prospects of this! :) -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
On 12/03/2009 09:04, javadayaz wrote: Ok same old dead topic i know. Im looking to buy a house and obviously my first thoughts in this new house are connectivity. Basically I want to use my pc as hub for all my entertainment. It will be stored in a seperate room where it will be connected to 26 moniter doing pc things but i also want to beam the media into the main living room where a bigger tv will reside. Naturally i want to do this without the aide of wires. Im thinking connect up an xbox1 to a tv and beam across the media from my ubuntu pc to my xbox. But my old xbox doesnt have wifi (it does have media centre). Or maybe that has some kind of wifi built in! I then want to use my G1 Android phone to control everything. Like a remote. I know there is an OS (in linux) that does all this and more but thats more of the software side of things im looking more of the hardware issues. ps my pc currently doesnt have wifi so that would be the first thing to look at! pps im so excited at the prospects of this! :) -- Javad You have a couple of options for connecting the XBOX. Probably the easiest without running cables (which is what I did for future proofing) is to get a couple of Powerline Ethernet adaptors which basically plug into the mains and have an ethernet socket in them. You'll need at least two to create a network. You can then either plug these into an ethernet switch and from the switch into the XBOX ethernet port or directly from the Powerline ethernet adaptor into the XBOX. With regards to adding wifi on your PC, do you really need wifi? Have you thought about broadband? You might find it's easier enough to plug your PC into your router if you can get away with it (of course this depends if you can put your router near your PC). If you can't plug your PC directly into your router (say it's in a different room) then you should be able to plug in a USB Wifi adaptor or PCI Wifi card (others on here will probably be able to advise you what works and what doesn't, I know my old Netgear WG111 USB adaptor does work out of the box). If you wanted to connect your XBOX via wifi then you'd need a wireless access point which can connect to an existing wireless network. I managed this for a friend by flashing his Buffalo router with the OpenWRT firmware and then getting it to bridge to his existing wireless network although I'd say it wasn't dead easy the first time round. There may be other wifi access points which do the job easier. Another thought which might be easier, if you can put your router next to or near your XBOX then you could plug the XBOX directly into that and then as you say add Wifi to your PC. That way the XBOX will be able to go through the router's wireless connection. With regards to the Android though, not sure how to do this as I haven't got one. Someone else might be able to advise. I did something similar although I did it pre-wireless so I ended up running some CAT5 cables up to the loft and put a server and switch in the loft. If you're buying your own house and it needs redecorating and you're handy with DIY then you may be able to put the cables in the walls neatly (this is what I'm planning on doing when I redecorate with the help of my dad who is good at DIY - I'm hopeless at it!). Saying that though I guess it may be better to go for CAT6 cable for future proofing. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Ciaran Mooney wrote: Hi, I have a similar set up to the one you want. I have an Ubuntu box sharing folders using SAMBA, connected to a wired network, along with an old Xbox with XBMC. There's not much else to it. I'm not sure if there is anything like a wireless remote for a G1. However the Xbox does have a python interpreter installed so you could write your own. Hardware wise the old Xbox doesn't come with wireless. You can't use a USB wireless dongle unless you install something like Linux for the Xbox, but then XBMC won't work. You'd also have to hack the dongle to work with the Xbox's USB ports (which are the controller ports). There are ethernet--wireless adapters out there (http://www.purelygadgets.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=19624wysiwyg=10) but they are pretty expensive. Just get a long ethernet cable and be done with it! Or maybe use one of the ethernet-over-power things (http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/default_ShopGroup.asp?ShopGroupID=61Alt=Yes). You're still stuck with the G1 bit, but I'd reccomend getting a Xbox remote control from ebay or something. XBMC has been designed to use it well. Good luck. Ciaran On 3/12/09, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Ok same old dead topic i know. Im looking to buy a house and obviously my first thoughts in this new house are connectivity. Basically I want to use my pc as hub for all my entertainment. It will be stored in a seperate room where it will be connected to 26 moniter doing pc things but i also want to beam the media into the main living room where a bigger tv will reside. Naturally i want to do this without the aide of wires. Im thinking connect up an xbox1 to a tv and beam across the media from my ubuntu pc to my xbox. But my old xbox doesnt have wifi (it does have media centre). Or maybe that has some kind of wifi built in! I then want to use my G1 Android phone to control everything. Like a remote. I know there is an OS (in linux) that does all this and more but thats more of the software side of things im looking more of the hardware issues. ps my pc currently doesnt have wifi so that would be the first thing to look at! pps im so excited at the prospects of this! :) -- Javad You could use powerline adapters to send your network through your electrical wiring. No messy cables across the floor and, in my experience, a much more reliable connection than using wireless. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
These are all very good ideas and no doubt i will experiment with them. Indeed i have the option of keeping the xbox upstairs in the spare room and beam it across to the tv ( i only wanted to put the xbox in the living room so that it acts as a media centre)... would that still work? About the G1, theres already an app out there called Gmote which turns the phone into a wifi remote control. it works well with the pc (havent tried it yet myself). 2009/3/12 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 12/03/2009 09:04, javadayaz wrote: Ok same old dead topic i know. Im looking to buy a house and obviously my first thoughts in this new house are connectivity. Basically I want to use my pc as hub for all my entertainment. It will be stored in a seperate room where it will be connected to 26 moniter doing pc things but i also want to beam the media into the main living room where a bigger tv will reside. Naturally i want to do this without the aide of wires. Im thinking connect up an xbox1 to a tv and beam across the media from my ubuntu pc to my xbox. But my old xbox doesnt have wifi (it does have media centre). Or maybe that has some kind of wifi built in! I then want to use my G1 Android phone to control everything. Like a remote. I know there is an OS (in linux) that does all this and more but thats more of the software side of things im looking more of the hardware issues. ps my pc currently doesnt have wifi so that would be the first thing to look at! pps im so excited at the prospects of this! :) -- Javad You have a couple of options for connecting the XBOX. Probably the easiest without running cables (which is what I did for future proofing) is to get a couple of Powerline Ethernet adaptors which basically plug into the mains and have an ethernet socket in them. You'll need at least two to create a network. You can then either plug these into an ethernet switch and from the switch into the XBOX ethernet port or directly from the Powerline ethernet adaptor into the XBOX. With regards to adding wifi on your PC, do you really need wifi? Have you thought about broadband? You might find it's easier enough to plug your PC into your router if you can get away with it (of course this depends if you can put your router near your PC). If you can't plug your PC directly into your router (say it's in a different room) then you should be able to plug in a USB Wifi adaptor or PCI Wifi card (others on here will probably be able to advise you what works and what doesn't, I know my old Netgear WG111 USB adaptor does work out of the box). If you wanted to connect your XBOX via wifi then you'd need a wireless access point which can connect to an existing wireless network. I managed this for a friend by flashing his Buffalo router with the OpenWRT firmware and then getting it to bridge to his existing wireless network although I'd say it wasn't dead easy the first time round. There may be other wifi access points which do the job easier. Another thought which might be easier, if you can put your router next to or near your XBOX then you could plug the XBOX directly into that and then as you say add Wifi to your PC. That way the XBOX will be able to go through the router's wireless connection. With regards to the Android though, not sure how to do this as I haven't got one. Someone else might be able to advise. I did something similar although I did it pre-wireless so I ended up running some CAT5 cables up to the loft and put a server and switch in the loft. If you're buying your own house and it needs redecorating and you're handy with DIY then you may be able to put the cables in the walls neatly (this is what I'm planning on doing when I redecorate with the help of my dad who is good at DIY - I'm hopeless at it!). Saying that though I guess it may be better to go for CAT6 cable for future proofing. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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XBMC has a web page built into it that can be used as a remote. So you could connect your android to the wirless network and then use that to control the xbox. I haven't used this for a long time though as it was a bit rubbish - the official xbox remote was much better. I don't know about Gmote -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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If you look on the android market place there is an application called gMote which let's you control windows, mac and even linux over wifi, this may be what your looking for from the remote side. Can't really help with the xbox connectivity since I have never used one other than to play games. On Mar 12, 2009 10:22 AM, danattwood danattw...@googlemail.com wrote: XBMC has a web page built into it that can be used as a remote. So you could connect your android to the wirless network and then use that to control the xbox. I haven't used this for a long time though as it was a bit rubbish - the official xbox remote was much better. I don't know about Gmote -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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cables are a strict no as my evil has striclty instructed that she is sick of the cables. So i could place the xbox in a spare room with the pc and have another plug adapter thing connected to the tv. would that work? Maybe there are tv's available that have wifi already built into them! ? 2009/3/12 Ross Woodruff rawoodruf...@googlemail.com If you look on the android market place there is an application called gMote which let's you control windows, mac and even linux over wifi, this may be what your looking for from the remote side. Can't really help with the xbox connectivity since I have never used one other than to play games. On Mar 12, 2009 10:22 AM, danattwood danattw...@googlemail.com wrote: XBMC has a web page built into it that can be used as a remote. So you could connect your android to the wirless network and then use that to control the xbox. I haven't used this for a long time though as it was a bit rubbish - the official xbox remote was much better. I don't know about Gmote -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.c. .. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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apart from rewiring i dont see how else those cables can be truly hidden. And i dont wana be one of those people who when they show off their hd to their friends they dont actually have the hd content to back it up so its going to have to be able to play at least a good quality of content! I would probably think the house electric wires are probably better built for that! 2009/3/12 Michael Holloway mich...@thedarkwinter.com On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:02 +, javadayaz wrote: cables are a strict no as my evil has striclty instructed that she is sick of the cables. I had that problem, the solution was 2 part. 1. Get trunking and do the cable properly so that they are hidden. 2. Make sure there is lots of goodies on the media centre for her :) I currently has a Netgear EVA8000 media centre, connected over 100MBit lan cable. It streams the data from my NAS box in another room. On HD video it struggles. This could be anything from the processing power of the Netgear, to the disk read speed of the NAS, to the limit of the LAN connection. I suspect the LAN is the problem. I would therefore suggest that you look at making the best connections to avoid this problem. Fixed cable first, then AC network, and then only resort to wireless. Cheers, Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Hi, Having the XMBC a distance from the TV itself could be an issue. Although there are those TV broadcasting things (http://www.digisender.net/wireless-tech.php) where you plug in an adapter into say a set-top box and it broadcastds over RF to the reciever plugged into the TV. The link is to a fancy one with IR capabilities, I'm sure there are cheaper ones that just broadcast the sound and video and thats it. I'm thinking that the ethernet-over-power is your best option, with the XBMC hidden from sight in the lounge somewhere. Behind the TV? CIarán On 3/12/09, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: apart from rewiring i dont see how else those cables can be truly hidden. And i dont wana be one of those people who when they show off their hd to their friends they dont actually have the hd content to back it up so its going to have to be able to play at least a good quality of content! I would probably think the house electric wires are probably better built for that! 2009/3/12 Michael Holloway mich...@thedarkwinter.com On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:02 +, javadayaz wrote: cables are a strict no as my evil has striclty instructed that she is sick of the cables. I had that problem, the solution was 2 part. 1. Get trunking and do the cable properly so that they are hidden. 2. Make sure there is lots of goodies on the media centre for her :) I currently has a Netgear EVA8000 media centre, connected over 100MBit lan cable. It streams the data from my NAS box in another room. On HD video it struggles. This could be anything from the processing power of the Netgear, to the disk read speed of the NAS, to the limit of the LAN connection. I suspect the LAN is the problem. I would therefore suggest that you look at making the best connections to avoid this problem. Fixed cable first, then AC network, and then only resort to wireless. Cheers, Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 12/03/2009 09:53, javadayaz wrote: These are all very good ideas and no doubt i will experiment with them. Indeed i have the option of keeping the xbox upstairs in the spare room and beam it across to the tv ( i only wanted to put the xbox in the living room so that it acts as a media centre)... would that still work? How do you mean beam it over? If you mean using one of those Audio/Video extenders then yes it would work but you'd also have to turn the XBOX on (or leave it on) and control XBMC via the web interface (in fact you should be able to do this from the G1). Saying that though, XBOX consoles are cheap now, I've got about 3 of them (2 soft modded, 1 solder modded) and they work lovely as media players. Personally if it was me I'd put the XBOX in the living room and control it with an XBOX DVD remote control (again these are cheap nowadays from places like Gamestation). About the G1, theres already an app out there called Gmote which turns the phone into a wifi remote control. it works well with the pc (havent tried it yet myself). Ahh I see. I haven't got a G1 so I couldn't comment on if it's any good or how easy it is to use. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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well i have the xbox remote so it would definately be easier to control the xbox that way.! Although i dont think the xbox could really handle HD anyway! 2009/3/12 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk On 12/03/2009 09:53, javadayaz wrote: These are all very good ideas and no doubt i will experiment with them. Indeed i have the option of keeping the xbox upstairs in the spare room and beam it across to the tv ( i only wanted to put the xbox in the living room so that it acts as a media centre)... would that still work? How do you mean beam it over? If you mean using one of those Audio/Video extenders then yes it would work but you'd also have to turn the XBOX on (or leave it on) and control XBMC via the web interface (in fact you should be able to do this from the G1). Saying that though, XBOX consoles are cheap now, I've got about 3 of them (2 soft modded, 1 solder modded) and they work lovely as media players. Personally if it was me I'd put the XBOX in the living room and control it with an XBOX DVD remote control (again these are cheap nowadays from places like Gamestation). About the G1, theres already an app out there called Gmote which turns the phone into a wifi remote control. it works well with the pc (havent tried it yet myself). Ahh I see. I haven't got a G1 so I couldn't comment on if it's any good or how easy it is to use. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 12/03/2009 11:13, Michael Holloway wrote: On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:02 +, javadayaz wrote: cables are a strict no as my evil has striclty instructed that she is sick of the cables. I had that problem, the solution was 2 part. 1. Get trunking and do the cable properly so that they are hidden. 2. Make sure there is lots of goodies on the media centre for her :) That's what I'm planning on doing, I have cables running down the walls but we're going to redecorate the house this year and my dad being a decorator is helping (in return for me fixing his PC :-). I like the idea that putting in cabling will at least future proof me for when I eventually upgrade my network to Gigabit. With regards to goodies that my other half likes, well I'm working on that, she likes Ultrastar and I see there is a Linux version so that's one of the killer apps that the Media Centre PC will have on it when I get it built up. I currently has a Netgear EVA8000 media centre, connected over 100MBit lan cable. It streams the data from my NAS box in another room. On HD video it struggles. This could be anything from the processing power of the Netgear, to the disk read speed of the NAS, to the limit of the LAN connection. I suspect the LAN is the problem. What sort of HD content is it? I stream HD content from my server over a 100Mbit connection via Samba and it tends to work fine (although it's only 720p as that is all my TV supports). I would therefore suggest that you look at making the best connections to avoid this problem. Fixed cable first, then AC network, and then only resort to wireless. Agreed. From experience I have found wireless to be fine for standard definition content and audio but no use for HD video and at least going down the cabling option, once it's done it should in theory support Gigabit ethernet and possibly faster in the future? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 12/03/2009 11:42, javadayaz wrote: well i have the xbox remote so it would definately be easier to control the xbox that way.! Although i dont think the xbox could really handle HD anyway! Yep you're right. Doesn't matter so much though if you don't have a HDTV. If you do then maybe you'd be worth looking at a HD media extender like the Popcorn Hour which is currently about £200 (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=177495partner=froogle). It was recently reviewed in Linux format and it does a whole load of different formats plus has an interface for an internal hard drive (and Ethernet) or maybe you could look at building a MythTV box to plug into the TV (you'd be looking at about £200 to £300 depending on what kit you get). I was lucky enough to be given a bare boxes small form factor HP PC for exactly this. Just need to get a CPU and hard drive for it (oh and a couple of Freeview sticks). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Rob Beard wrote: snip If you want to play HD content over power line ethernet you'd probably find you'd have to go for something like the 200MBit adaptors which are more expensive as you generally don't get the quoted speed. IIRC my friend's 85Mbit adaptors got a real speed of around 18MBit. In the future though hopefully Netgear will be releasing their network over TV coax adaptors though which use standard TV/FM coax cables although they'll be a bit pricey - http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ Rob My powerline adapters are 85mbit and only do around 20. SD content streams fine, but going to 720p stutters pretty badly. I haven't even bothered trying 1080p content. I'm not sure what real life speeds are likely to be using 200mbit adapters but I'm willing to bet it's substantially below the rated speed. Has anyone got any experience using 200mbit powerline adapters? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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Hi, The XBMC can't decode HD content, but it does upscale SD to HD if you want to have a pseudo-HD experience on your nice HD telly. Ciarán On 3/12/09, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.com wrote: Rob Beard wrote: snip If you want to play HD content over power line ethernet you'd probably find you'd have to go for something like the 200MBit adaptors which are more expensive as you generally don't get the quoted speed. IIRC my friend's 85Mbit adaptors got a real speed of around 18MBit. In the future though hopefully Netgear will be releasing their network over TV coax adaptors though which use standard TV/FM coax cables although they'll be a bit pricey - http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ Rob My powerline adapters are 85mbit and only do around 20. SD content streams fine, but going to 720p stutters pretty badly. I haven't even bothered trying 1080p content. I'm not sure what real life speeds are likely to be using 200mbit adapters but I'm willing to bet it's substantially below the rated speed. Has anyone got any experience using 200mbit powerline adapters? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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On 12/03/2009 11:25, javadayaz wrote: apart from rewiring i dont see how else those cables can be truly hidden. Speaking to my dad about the same thing, he advised me I've have to put in a conduit in the wall (so cut out a bit of plaster), put the cabling in and plaster over it (IIRC he said about putting something over the cable before plastering it. Not really ideal if you've just redecorated. The only reason I'm getting away with it is because we're redecorating and at the moment we're in the process of stripping wallpaper. And i dont wana be one of those people who when they show off their hd to their friends they dont actually have the hd content to back it up so its going to have to be able to play at least a good quality of content! I would probably think the house electric wires are probably better built for that! Well the XBOX won't really play HD content, it's just not really up to the job of doing it properly which is a shame really as I really do like XBMC (yes I know it's available for Linux Windows although if I was putting a PC in I'd put MythTV or Windows Media Center on it instead). If you want to play HD content over power line ethernet you'd probably find you'd have to go for something like the 200MBit adaptors which are more expensive as you generally don't get the quoted speed. IIRC my friend's 85Mbit adaptors got a real speed of around 18MBit. In the future though hopefully Netgear will be releasing their network over TV coax adaptors though which use standard TV/FM coax cables although they'll be a bit pricey - http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:02 +, javadayaz wrote: cables are a strict no as my evil has striclty instructed that she is sick of the cables. I had that problem, the solution was 2 part. 1. Get trunking and do the cable properly so that they are hidden. 2. Make sure there is lots of goodies on the media centre for her :) I currently has a Netgear EVA8000 media centre, connected over 100MBit lan cable. It streams the data from my NAS box in another room. On HD video it struggles. This could be anything from the processing power of the Netgear, to the disk read speed of the NAS, to the limit of the LAN connection. I suspect the LAN is the problem. I would therefore suggest that you look at making the best connections to avoid this problem. Fixed cable first, then AC network, and then only resort to wireless. Cheers, Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
What sort of HD content is it? I stream HD content from my server over a 100Mbit connection via Samba and it tends to work fine (although it's only 720p as that is all my TV supports). http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/ The 720p works fine The 1080p keeps having to buffer. My TV also only only supports 720p. I used the 1080p to benchmark. Now I know I don't need to bother upgrading to fullHD yet :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
How good is the upscaling feature though? 2009/3/12 Ciaran Mooney general.moo...@googlemail.com Hi, The XBMC can't decode HD content, but it does upscale SD to HD if you want to have a pseudo-HD experience on your nice HD telly. Ciarán On 3/12/09, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.com wrote: Rob Beard wrote: snip If you want to play HD content over power line ethernet you'd probably find you'd have to go for something like the 200MBit adaptors which are more expensive as you generally don't get the quoted speed. IIRC my friend's 85Mbit adaptors got a real speed of around 18MBit. In the future though hopefully Netgear will be releasing their network over TV coax adaptors though which use standard TV/FM coax cables although they'll be a bit pricey - http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/29/netgears-coax-ethernet-adapter-up-for-pre-order/ Rob My powerline adapters are 85mbit and only do around 20. SD content streams fine, but going to 720p stutters pretty badly. I haven't even bothered trying 1080p content. I'm not sure what real life speeds are likely to be using 200mbit adapters but I'm willing to bet it's substantially below the rated speed. Has anyone got any experience using 200mbit powerline adapters? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
Hi, I have no idea, I only have a old bog standard CRT SD TV. (m acronyms.) I just know it can do it. http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/index.php/t400249.html Some opinions on the topic. Ciarán -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
Another option is to ditch the xbox and get something like the popcorn hour (http://www.popcornhour.com/onlinestore/) which as an optional wireless dongle. It also supports full HD so you could fit a hard drive into it and copy over HD from the network to play - although obviously coping over the content would take a while. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Query about connecting a Ubuntu pc and an xbox
i think weve established that there is no way of getting true HD through any of these methods! 2009/3/12 Ciaran Mooney general.moo...@googlemail.com Hi, I have no idea, I only have a old bog standard CRT SD TV. (m acronyms.) I just know it can do it. http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/index.php/t400249.html Some opinions on the topic. Ciarán -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
