Re: [ubuntu-uk] Question on fsck

2010-04-01 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 30 March 2010 13:32, Markie mark.curtis.1...@googlemail.com wrote:
[snip]
 Basically what I could deduce from the errors was that a file I had ftp-ed
 onto the machine yesterday was pointing to the same disc block as one of the
 gdm log files.


This can happen sometimes when, for example, there's a power glitch
while the machine is writing the file to its disc.

 Fortunately I have a external USB with ubuntu installed so after making a
 note of which files were clashing, I booted from that and mounted the drive.
 I deleted one of the files (not the gdm log) and then unmounted to drive and
 run fsck against it choosing the y when prompted to fix. Now I can boot
 the machine normally off the internal hard drive.


You don't need to manually delete the file. fsck will do it for you.
And of the two, I would have deleted the log file! Depends how easily
you can get the other file back (or another copy of it anyway).

 I have some questions on this;

 1. How could two files ever point to one disc block?

Answered above.

 2. If I faced this error where would boot time fsck errors be written to?

They normally get written to the screen while the machine is booting.
They might also get written to a log file, but I'm not sure.

 3. Which logs would show any errors such as this so I could check before
 finding out on next boot I had a problem?

As far as I know, you don't find out about disc/filesystem problems
until you get the error message. Some people swear by SMART
monitoring, but Google wrote a report to say that it was fairly
unreliable at predicting disc failures (both false-positives (saying a
disc will fail when it keeps working for a significant time) and
false-negatives (saying the disc is fine, then it goes bang a
millisecond later))! They had a reasonably large number of disc drives
that they analysed for the report too.


Cofion/Regards,
Neil.

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[ubuntu-uk] Question on fsck

2010-03-30 Thread Markie
Hi All,

This is also posted on ubuntuforums, I wonder if someone on this mailing
list might also be able to give me some information as this has worried me
slightly

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1442534

*I booted my regular machine today and it failed to boot complaining it was
unable to mount the disc and threw me out to a root prompt. So I tried
booting into the failsafe kernel and it gave me some more detailed messages
from fsck.

Basically what I could deduce from the errors was that a file I had ftp-ed
onto the machine yesterday was pointing to the same disc block as one of the
gdm log files.

Fortunately I have a external USB with ubuntu installed so after making a
note of which files were clashing, I booted from that and mounted the drive.
I deleted one of the files (not the gdm log) and then unmounted to drive and
run fsck against it choosing the y when prompted to fix. Now I can boot
the machine normally off the internal hard drive.

I have some questions on this;

1. How could two files ever point to one disc block?
2. If I faced this error where would boot time fsck errors be written to?
3. Which logs would show any errors such as this so I could check before
finding out on next boot I had a problem?*
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