Re: [ubuntu-uk] Routine Admin...

2007-07-11 Thread Mark Harrison
Thanks to all who've replied.

The apticron package that Alan recommends looks just the ticket!

Regards,

Mark



Alan Pope wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:27:40AM +0100, Mark Harrison wrote:
>   
>> - how often do you run apt*
>> 
>
> On servers I install apticron which emails me automagically when updates are 
> available. I also use apt-listchanges to let me know what has changed in 
> those packages. 
>
>   
>> - do you rely on the file system itself to manage disk fragmentation, or 
>> are there specific tools you use
>> 
>
> General consensus is that so long as the filesystem isn't very full, you 
> don't need to bother with defragging.
>
>   
>> - do you rely Apache to manage its own logs, or do you prune old ones 
>> (how often)
>>
>> 
>
> I use logrotate to automatically gzip and rotate logs.
>
> Cheers,
> Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Routine Admin...

2007-07-11 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mark,

On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:27:40AM +0100, Mark Harrison wrote:
> - how often do you run apt*

On servers I install apticron which emails me automagically when updates are 
available. I also use apt-listchanges to let me know what has changed in 
those packages. 

> - do you rely on the file system itself to manage disk fragmentation, or 
> are there specific tools you use

General consensus is that so long as the filesystem isn't very full, you 
don't need to bother with defragging.

> - do you rely Apache to manage its own logs, or do you prune old ones 
> (how often)
> 

I use logrotate to automatically gzip and rotate logs.

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Routine Admin...

2007-07-11 Thread Kris Marsh
On 7/11/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This question is particularly aimed at server admin, but
> desktop-specifics would be good.
>
> If you're running an Ubuntu box, what "routine admin" do you perform
>
> - how often do you run apt*
> - do you rely on the file system itself to manage disk fragmentation, or
> are there specific tools you use
> - do you rely Apache to manage its own logs, or do you prune old ones
> (how often)
>
> ... and so on, and so on.
>
>
> At the moment, I run a cluster of four servers, using a cunning method
> called "ad hoc management" :-) I'd like to tighten up what we're doing
> (not least so I can hand over that kind of operational stuff to someone
> else :-) )
>
> M.
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Might be worth installing logwatch - it emails you relevant syslog messages.

Kris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Routine Admin...

2007-07-11 Thread Nik Butler
Mark Harrison wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This question is particularly aimed at server admin, but 
> desktop-specifics would be good.
>
> If you're running an Ubuntu box, what "routine admin" do you perform
>
> - how often do you run apt*
>   
I run the apt update automagically every week.
> - do you rely on the file system itself to manage disk fragmentation, or 
> are there specific tools you use
>   
Theres no real need to do this since  
http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
> - do you rely Apache to manage its own logs, or do you prune old ones 
> (how often)
>   
SyslogD and Cron should do the pruning but you might want to run a 
scheduled grep to seek key phrases and move those logs for later 
inspection I assume your sending all logs to one central log server ?


> ... and so on, and so on.
>   
Yes theres lots some intuitive, some process driven, all planned and 
considered. I guess it comes down to personality and mind set as to the 
approach though.


Nik


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[ubuntu-uk] Routine Admin...

2007-07-11 Thread Mark Harrison
Hi all,

This question is particularly aimed at server admin, but 
desktop-specifics would be good.

If you're running an Ubuntu box, what "routine admin" do you perform

- how often do you run apt*
- do you rely on the file system itself to manage disk fragmentation, or 
are there specific tools you use
- do you rely Apache to manage its own logs, or do you prune old ones 
(how often)

... and so on, and so on.


At the moment, I run a cluster of four servers, using a cunning method 
called "ad hoc management" :-) I'd like to tighten up what we're doing 
(not least so I can hand over that kind of operational stuff to someone 
else :-) )

M.

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