Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
I presume that there isn't a Scribus add-in that allows for direct import of FP files circumnavigating the need for all this file format changing? Addmitedly I've done a quick Google and can't find anything. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 14 June 2007 21:09 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft Publisher. Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Can anyone help? Thanks, M. -- I'm not sure if this will help but could they run Publisher and OOo or Scribus on Windows and select everything on the page, copy it and paste it into OOo? Other than that, they could try using something like PDF Creator on Windows which as far as I know will export into EPS/PS format. Even if it doesn't, you should be able to use something like pdf2ps to convert the document into PS format which can then be imported (hopefully) into Scribus and then copied and pasted into OOo. I think PDF creator also has the option to create PNG/JPG/BMP/TIF etc files, so if all else fails they could get the whole page as an image which can easily be imported into OOo. I went down the PDF2PS route the other day. I was after a high quality logo for the company I work for. Luckily I found a PDF copy of a business card which I was able to convert to PDF, import into Scribus and then copy and paste into Inkscape to make an SVG version. Looked great when it was finally imported into OOo, much better than the JPG copies that were available to me. Hope this helps anyway. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
On 14/06/07, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft Publisher. Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Can anyone help? Thanks, M. -- I'm not sure if this will help but could they run Publisher and OOo or Scribus on Windows and select everything on the page, copy it and paste it into OOo? Other than that, they could try using something like PDF Creator on Windows which as far as I know will export into EPS/PS format. Even if it doesn't, you should be able to use something like pdf2ps to convert the document into PS format which can then be imported (hopefully) into Scribus and then copied and pasted into OOo. I think PDF creator also has the option to create PNG/JPG/BMP/TIF etc files, so if all else fails they could get the whole page as an image which can easily be imported into OOo. I went down the PDF2PS route the other day. I was after a high quality logo for the company I work for. Luckily I found a PDF copy of a business card which I was able to convert to PDF, import into Scribus and then copy and paste into Inkscape to make an SVG version. Looked great when it was finally imported into OOo, much better than the JPG copies that were available to me. Hope this helps anyway. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ As a newbie. I think that OOo will do all your relations want because Draw is so well integrated with Writer. But you'll have to explain the mysteries of how the curser changes for what you want to do - it's not obvioius and took me many days to fathom it out completely. I don't think you need scribus at an elemenetary level - it holds out no attractions for me above Writer/Draw in OOo. Robin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Robin Menneer wrote: . I don't think you need scribus at an elemenetary level - it holds out no attractions for me above Writer/Draw in OOo. Robin Well you can keep your options open with this set of software. Do it in Writer/Draw and if you need more DTP import into Scribus. Scribus imports from Draw and Writer very nicely. You can even do most of your text formattting in writer and import to Scribus. I think these programs work well together and are a LOT cheaper than MSOffice with MS Publisher. :-) The money you save on upgrades alone would buy you a PC in a few years :-) Eddie -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Robin Menneer wrote: As a newbie. I think that OOo will do all your relations want because Draw is so well integrated with Writer. But you'll have to explain the mysteries of how the curser changes for what you want to do - it's not obvioius and took me many days to fathom it out completely. I don't think you need scribus at an elemenetary level - it holds out no attractions for me above Writer/Draw in OOo. Robin I'd agree with that, although I have used Scribus in the past, generally OOo Draw does most of I want. I've downloaded a trial of Publisher 2007 (on my other half's laptop) so I'll have a play and see if copying and pasting from Publisher to OOo works or not. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft Publisher. Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Can anyone help? Thanks, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Hi Matthew, On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:56:13PM +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: They use Microsoft Publisher. Use or Used? Could they use Scribus under Linux? Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Do they need to use publisher specifically? Can they do a one-time conversion of their old stuff to PDF and create new content in scribus? http://www.pdfonline.com/ can convert publisher files to pdf for free. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Alan, On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:10:15 +, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew, On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:56:13PM +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: They use Microsoft Publisher. Use or Used? Could they use Scribus under Linux? They could use scribus but they won't make the jump until they can take their content with them! Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Do they need to use publisher specifically? Can they do a one-time conversion of their old stuff to PDF and create new content in scribus? Only if they can edit the PDFs afterwards. Basically they do a lot of work for their local churches and other charity organisations, all of which seem to have fallen into the It's Microsoft AND it's cheap[0]...It MUST be good!! - if the content can bhe converted into anything else that is editable or importable into scribus or similar, then that would be great, but until then, they just won't switch... :o( http://www.pdfonline.com/ can convert publisher files to pdf for free. It's worth a look, Matt. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) [0] well, it's reasonably cheap anyway... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
On 14/06/07, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. A google search came up with http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=354001 which offers the following advice opening the page in publisher and saving as an EMF (Enhanced [w]indows [M]eta [F]ile) and then using OOo draw Peter -- Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth. Emperor of Rome Marcus Aurelius -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: snip Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Can anyone help? Will MS Pub run under Wine? (Just a thought - I don't know the answer!) -- Diana -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Hi Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Only if they can edit the PDFs afterwards. PDF really isn't geared up to that kind of thing. You can make modifications, but it is a pain and is usually pretty limited. Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canonical.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
It seems Publisher is well known for this From 'http://blogs.msdn.com/jeff_bell/archive/2006/08/14/700473.aspx' If you have a recent copy of Publisher - Publisher 2002/XP, Publisher 2003 or Publisher 2007 - you should be able to open all Microsoft Publisher files that come your way. If you collaborate with someone using an older version of Publisher, such as Publisher 2000 or Publisher 98, then you will want to Save As the appropriate older format for their system. If you are co-editing a Publisher document with someone else, then you will both need copies of Publisher. We recognize that there are times when you want to share an electronic version of, for example, a brochure or a catalog. To support this, Publisher 2007, plus a free add-in from Microsoft, enable saving to PDF, The wonders of proprietary file formats! As Scribus comes in Windows and Linux why not convert everybody to Scribus? :-) Not only is it free - upgrades are free too - take a look at Scribus 1.3.4. , very nice! Also have you tried making a PS/EPS file from Publisher and Importing to Scribus? Another option is saving as HTML opening in Ooo saving in Open doc Format then importing to Scribus. Howerver I know from bitter experience that 'MS HTML' contains a lot of gibberish that shouldn't be there and needed to be trimmed out when I saved as HTML from Word then opened in Ooo. Hope you find a way :-) Eddie Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 12:56 +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft Publisher. Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Can anyone help? Thanks, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Lug-Master (http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk), Dad (http://www.helpmeimadad.com/), Ubuntu User( http://www.ubuntu.com/) You could use both publisher and scribus/OOo draw, slowly making the change. Carry on using publisher for the pubs you've already got, but make all new ones in scribus/OOo draw :) that way, you'll eventually have everything in scribus/OOo. -- Alec Wright -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Alan, On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:10:15 +, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew, On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 12:56:13PM +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: They use Microsoft Publisher. Use or Used? Could they use Scribus under Linux? They could use scribus but they won't make the jump until they can take their content with them! Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Do they need to use publisher specifically? Can they do a one-time conversion of their old stuff to PDF and create new content in scribus? Only if they can edit the PDFs afterwards. Basically they do a lot of work for their local churches and other charity organisations, all of which seem to have fallen into the It's Microsoft AND it's cheap[0]...It MUST be good!! Maybe its time to tell them about monopolies and vendor lock in, and the various consequences of this. I was in the queue at the local colledge enrolement enquiries event this afternoon. The two people in front of me wanted photo editing. They found they would need Photoshop (elements) on their home PCs - which they realised was expensive (for them). The course tutor had no open source offerings, and did not mention it anyway. :-( I gave them an opensource Free Software information Leaflet, which cheered them up a bit.. :-) An IT tutor upstairs was very happy to accept some information too - which would be given to students soon (after the exams). The information was 7.04 Ubuntu desktop CD, Copy of audio stream of BBC's OpenSource broadcast (April) copy of video stream of current BBC Click (includes Ubuntu and Mark Shuttleworth interview), Popey's updating ubuntu screencast example, a few amusing Get Firefox clips, and some other docs. Good luck with your persuading! -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Searching for a Killer App
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi all, I've managed to convince my parents that Ubuntu is for them (My mum just got a new laptop with Vista and Office 2007 and thinks that it is completely unintuitive!) however there is one issue. They use Microsoft Publisher. Whilst there are many tools out there that will act as a replacement, I am unable to find a program that will load and save MS Pub files. Can anyone help? Thanks, M. -- I'm not sure if this will help but could they run Publisher and OOo or Scribus on Windows and select everything on the page, copy it and paste it into OOo? Other than that, they could try using something like PDF Creator on Windows which as far as I know will export into EPS/PS format. Even if it doesn't, you should be able to use something like pdf2ps to convert the document into PS format which can then be imported (hopefully) into Scribus and then copied and pasted into OOo. I think PDF creator also has the option to create PNG/JPG/BMP/TIF etc files, so if all else fails they could get the whole page as an image which can easily be imported into OOo. I went down the PDF2PS route the other day. I was after a high quality logo for the company I work for. Luckily I found a PDF copy of a business card which I was able to convert to PDF, import into Scribus and then copy and paste into Inkscape to make an SVG version. Looked great when it was finally imported into OOo, much better than the JPG copies that were available to me. Hope this helps anyway. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
