Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-09 Thread George MacLeod
We bought one of these here at work on spec as they looked like a good
deal...they're rubbish and virtually no good for anything at all.

Seoras

2008/5/9 Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I think the issue is that they haven't updated their configurator...
 clearly the MPC-L is a different beast, running XUbuntu etc.  rather than
 Mandrake (sic)

 Pretty useless site, anyway.

 Sean

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-09 Thread George MacLeod
Hi,
Perhaps I was a bit harsh the machines have their uses although they were no
good for us. The main problems we found were that they're very underpowered
and slow and the graphics weren't that great. Having said that if you don't
mind a slow boot and just use it for the web etc. they're OK plus they are
very small and have a low power consumption. I also think someone mentioned
that they are only available to the public sector and this is correct we got
one from Viglen to try out but normally they would supply in bulk to
Universities and schools etc.

Seoras

2008/5/9 Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:15 AM, George MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 We bought one of these here at work on spec as they looked like a good
 deal...they're rubbish and virtually no good for anything at all.


 Care to elaborate?

 Sean


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-09 Thread Matthew Wild
Anyone have experience with the Linutop device (
http://www.linutop.com/linutop2/index.en.html )? I am thinking of
getting one for a low-power machine. Right now I need something simple
that will allow me to set up a webcam with motion detection, and I am
thinking of this :)

Matthew

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:11 PM, George MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 Perhaps I was a bit harsh the machines have their uses although they were no
 good for us. The main problems we found were that they're very underpowered
 and slow and the graphics weren't that great. Having said that if you don't
 mind a slow boot and just use it for the web etc. they're OK plus they are
 very small and have a low power consumption. I also think someone mentioned
 that they are only available to the public sector and this is correct we got
 one from Viglen to try out but normally they would supply in bulk to
 Universities and schools etc.

 Seoras


 2008/5/9 Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:15 AM, George MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   We bought one of these here at work on spec as they looked like a good
 deal...they're rubbish and virtually no good for anything at all.
 
 
  Care to elaborate?
 
  Sean
 
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-09 Thread Matthew Wild
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Matthew Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone have experience with the Linutop device (
  http://www.linutop.com/linutop2/index.en.html )? I am thinking of
  getting one for a low-power machine. Right now I need something simple
  that will allow me to set up a webcam with motion detection, and I am
  thinking of this :)

  Matthew



I do wish Gmail's default wasn't to attempt to trick you into top-posting :(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-09 Thread Kris Douglas
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Matthew Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone have experience with the Linutop device (
 http://www.linutop.com/linutop2/index.en.html )? I am thinking of
 getting one for a low-power machine. Right now I need something simple
 that will allow me to set up a webcam with motion detection, and I am
 thinking of this :)

 Matthew

 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:11 PM, George MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 Perhaps I was a bit harsh the machines have their uses although they were no
 good for us. The main problems we found were that they're very underpowered
 and slow and the graphics weren't that great. Having said that if you don't
 mind a slow boot and just use it for the web etc. they're OK plus they are
 very small and have a low power consumption. I also think someone mentioned
 that they are only available to the public sector and this is correct we got
 one from Viglen to try out but normally they would supply in bulk to
 Universities and schools etc.

 Seoras


 2008/5/9 Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:15 AM, George MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
   We bought one of these here at work on spec as they looked like a good
 deal...they're rubbish and virtually no good for anything at all.
 
 
  Care to elaborate?
 
  Sean
 
 
 
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Aria.co.uk stock some tracking network cams that have a web interface,
a lot cheaper than the linutop..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-09 Thread Adam Bagnall
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 20:28 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:
 On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Matthew Wild [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Anyone have experience with the Linutop device (
  http://www.linutop.com/linutop2/index.en.html )? I am thinking of
  getting one for a low-power machine. Right now I need something simple
  that will allow me to set up a webcam with motion detection, and I am
  thinking of this :)
 
  Matthew
 
The linutop 2 looks identical to the viglen. I'm guessing they're identical 
although they could just be using the same case.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Javad Ayaz
i smell a torrents machine thingy..lol

2008/5/8 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Just been reading The Register about a new MSI Mini-ITX based PC that
 that's being released for about £235.  Reading through the comments,
 someone posted this...


 http://www.viglen.co.uk/viglen/Products_Services/Product_Range/Product_file.aspx?eCode=XUBUMBCLType_Info=DescriptionType=DesktopsGUID=22166764417

 It doesn't say exactly what spec it is but it does have a 40GB hard
 drive, 4 x USB2 ports and it comes preinstalled with Xubuntu.  I can
 only assume it has something like an AMD Geode or VIA C7 CPU in there.

 Still for £99 it's a really good price and would make a lovely little
 Linux box that as show on the site can be mounted on the back of a TFT
 monitor.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Adam Bagnall
Rob Beard wrote:
 Just been reading The Register about a new MSI Mini-ITX based PC that
 that's being released for about £235.  Reading through the comments,
 someone posted this...

 http://www.viglen.co.uk/viglen/Products_Services/Product_Range/Product_file.aspx?eCode=XUBUMBCLType_Info=DescriptionType=DesktopsGUID=22166764417

 It doesn't say exactly what spec it is but it does have a 40GB hard 
 drive, 4 x USB2 ports and it comes preinstalled with Xubuntu.  I can 
 only assume it has something like an AMD Geode or VIA C7 CPU in there.

 Still for £99 it's a really good price and would make a lovely little
 Linux box that as show on the site can be mounted on the back of a TFT
 monitor.

 Rob

   
Looks about the same size as that aleutia pc, i.e. it can be monitor 
mounted, but with an included 40gb hdd rather than running from a cf 
card and half the price. Tasty indeed.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Rob Beard
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 i smell a torrents machine thingy..lol
 

Yep, no doubt you can upgrade the hard drive and memory, and with USB2 
on there it would probably happily run a big external hard drive and 
printer.

Just what I need for my new printer/scanner/copier.  I was a bit wrong 
on the price though, it's £99 plus VAT  delivery, so no doubt nearer to 
about £130.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Adam Bagnall
James Grabham wrote:
 I smell server

 On 5/8/08, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Javad Ayaz wrote:
 
 i smell a torrents machine thingy..lol

   
 Yep, no doubt you can upgrade the hard drive and memory, and with USB2
 on there it would probably happily run a big external hard drive and
 printer.

 Just what I need for my new printer/scanner/copier.  I was a bit wrong
 on the price though, it's £99 plus VAT  delivery, so no doubt nearer to
 about £130.

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Just poking about on their site you can order one here. 
http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063
 
Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links 
says it comes with XP?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Gavin Ford
On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote:
 Just poking about on their site you can order one here. 
 http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063
  
 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links 
 says it comes with XP?

A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away from 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread James Grabham
And upgrade from 40GB to 80GB for £0.00

still comes to over £99 though

On 5/8/08, Gavin Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote:
 Just poking about on their site you can order one here.
 http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063

 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links
 says it comes with XP?

 A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Adam Bagnall
Gavin Ford wrote:
 On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote:
   
 Just poking about on their site you can order one here. 
 http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063
  
 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links 
 says it comes with XP?
 

 A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away from 
 Windows.

   
Even removing everything I can to make it cheaper I still can't get it 
to £99+vat+del. Maybe that's for bulk orders only as their site seems 
mainly geared towards the public sector.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Rob Beard
Adam Bagnall wrote:
 Gavin Ford wrote:
 On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote:
   
 Just poking about on their site you can order one here. 
 http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063
  
 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links 
 says it comes with XP?
 
 A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away 
 from Windows.

   
 Even removing everything I can to make it cheaper I still can't get it 
 to £99+vat+del. Maybe that's for bulk orders only as their site seems 
 mainly geared towards the public sector.
 

Just had another look at their web site and found this...

http://www.viglen.co.uk/webmail/5star-offers.html

It says to call 'your account manager'.  Might be worth a call to them 
to see how much a single unit is on it's own.  My guess though if it's 
going to be nearer £200, a MiniITX based PC might work out cheaper.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small low powered Linux box running Xu buntu for £99

2008-05-08 Thread Rob Beard
Adam Bagnall wrote:
 Gavin Ford wrote:
 On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 08:27:35PM +0100, Adam Bagnall wrote:
   
 Just poking about on their site you can order one here. 
 http://www.viglen.co.uk/devportal/std/storefront/qna.asp?part_no=MPCWEBecode=XUBUMPCLsector=firstpass=1guid=22084573063
  
 Click the information link and it says 256mb RAM but the order links 
 says it comes with XP?
 
 A Mandrake Linux CD is priced at -£45, so you can save by upgrading away 
 from Windows.

   
 Even removing everything I can to make it cheaper I still can't get it 
 to £99+vat+del. Maybe that's for bulk orders only as their site seems 
 mainly geared towards the public sector.
 

Cheapest I managed to get it was £175.  £20 delivery seems very steep 
for something so small!

Oh well, maybe it isn't such a great offer after all. :(

Rob


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