Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
Sorry for the late reply. You may want to take a look at sonar linux and the accessible computing foundation. From: Penelope Stowe Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] . Re: Twin DVD drives not mounting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Vinux is going to be the best you get if you want something purely Ubuntu based using Unity. Whatever derivative of Ubuntu that uses Gnome 3 may also work as the Gnome Accessibility team is much larger & active than anything we've ever been able to gather for Ubuntu. I attempted to get life into the Ubuntu Accessibility Team several years ago, but when my own health became too poor for me to run things, it disappeared again. As far as I know, there's still only one person, Luke Yelavich, actively working on Ubuntu accessibility coding & it's not what he gets to work on (he's a Canonical employee, but does much of the accessibility work on his own time). As of several years ago, Luke was planning on using Vinux to test work for all accessibility features so it may be better than you expect. Despite the inactivity as an overall team, you may want to post some of your questions/feedback to the Ubuntu Accessibility mailing list ( ubuntu-accessibil...@lists.ubuntu.com ). It's actually still somewhat active & there are users who can answer some of your questions specific to how to maximize accessibility and feedback in general. Several of the users also use other Linux distros so may be able to help you look at what distros might work better for you. Vinux has its own list, but I don't have the address at hand. Unfortunately, Windows and MacOS are far ahead of Linux when it comes to operating system accessibility, at the moment. I don't know about Android (I've heard mixed reviews on accessibility & don't use it myself), but iOS is also substantially better. The problems catching up mostly come from lack of people working on it & different things that are harder to create in an open source environment (trying to get a large enough open source database to use for voice dictation, for example). I think accessibility is one aspect where the idea of scratching your own itch hurts projects; accessibility features don't become someone's itch until they or someone they know needs them. With Ubuntu, specifically, it can be difficult for volunteers to be able access/work on the code before a release comes out. The work I tried to do with the accessibility team was more about community, trying to get more people interested in contributing (in a variety of ways), & creating tools to make it easier for developers to understand what needs people with a variety of impairments needed. I do think eventually Ubuntu & other Linux distros will improve their accessibility to at least become equal with Windows & MacOS (there was a time when Ubuntu/Gnome was actually slightly ahead in some ways). I just don't know whether that'll happen in 3 years or 10. In the meantime you have to figure out what will work best for you. Good luck! Penelope On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:59 AM, David Goldsbrough wrote: > Many thanks for all the contributions to date. I have learnt a great > deal from these and my further researches. > > When it comes to LUG I tried to involve myself years ago but sadly I > live too far away in Wiltshire to involve myself with that one which > is largely defunct now I think and the ones nearer to me in Somerset > don't seem to be too active either. In any case I cannot drive now > due to my vision issues. I am now in my early 60s and have vast IT > experience including a former HP-UX systems administrator - quite some years > ago now. > > Back to the problem. I failed myself here. My initial problem was my > failing eyesight. I tried a few things in Ubuntu including screen > readers, magnifiers etc but with little satisfaction. Then I came > across Vinux distro and thought I would give it a whirl. I downloaded > the ISO onto the machine previously stated and tried to burn it to DVD ROM. > > This is when I discovered the 2 drives were not working yet they were > fine in Windows. I have then spent too much time trying to fix this > rather than my original problem! > > The funny thing is I don't expect the distro to be much better than I > have already tried. Sadly, I have found windows much better when it > comes to making changes to mouse pointers/cursors and ones which don't > only work inside a browser. And my android tablet is much better > again enabling me to do voice to text input and using gestures. IMHO > Linux has a long way to go to catch up with android/windows when it comes to > assistive features. > > -- -- ubuntu-uk mailing list ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk End of ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 125, Issue 17 ** -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk htt
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
David, Whereabouts do you live? Is there a local Linux User Group in your area? There are lots of people in the community who would love to help you out and might be able to do things to assist you in many ways. Obviously, don't give too much personal info away in an open mailing list like this, but you should definitely consider getting yourself to a local LUG meet-up and let some of the eager, local Linux nerds help you out. That's what they are there for! Perhaps in future, you could even contribute back, utilise your experiences and possibly help out in some of the open-source accessibility projects. A while ago, when listening to one of the Linux podcasts, I heard a fascinating and encouraging interview about an Ubuntu-based (I think) distro, which champions accessibility and feeds back into upstream accessibility projects. Anyone reading this: Help me out here; was this the Ubuntu Podcast? What was this distro? Who'd like to help out David? Thanks to all, Rich. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
LIam is right, you have to check that your hardware is correctly installed. The subject line 'Twin DVD drives not mounting' is not really correct. The drives themselves are not 'mounted'. It's the DVD or CD put into the drive that is mounted. with a udf or ISO9600 file system on them. And that is usually done automatically. The drives have to be 'detected' at boot time, as does all the hardware. Run the command: sudo lshw This will show if the hardware is detected. The bit in my lshw listing that shows it is: *-scsi:1 physical id: 3 logical name: scsi1 capabilities: emulated *-cdrom description: DVD-RAM writer product: DVD-RAM GHC0N vendor: HL-DT-ST physical id: 0.0.0 bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0 logical name: /dev/cdrom logical name: /dev/cdrw logical name: /dev/dvd logical name: /dev/dvdrw logical name: /dev/sr0 version: MA00 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc because its SATA. If its PATA, it may be different. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
On 20 September 2015 at 14:04, David Goldsbrough wrote: > Now the floppy drive entry is really weird as the system does not have one! You may not; millions do. I still did on my machines when I lived in the UK - dual drives (3.5" and 5.25") in one of them. Also, you could plug in a USB floppy drive at any time, if you so wished. As for the DVD drives: are they PATA or SATA? If they're PATA, check their jumper settings. I have a suspicion you might have them both set to "CSEL", which means "cable select". Master and slave are set at bootup according to which drive is on the end of the cable and which is in the middle. This is not very reliable and while it might work with Windows, it might not with Linux. You should also check if you are running the latest BIOS version for your motherboard. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Cell/Mobiles: +44 7939-087884 (UK) • +420 702 829 053 (ČR) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
I have tried what some contributors have said. Just to answer some questions and issues raised. I am trying to get my system to recognise (mount) my twin DVD drives. My research had led me to believe that a cure would be to place entries in /etc/fstab but that has not worked. I am using 14.04 LTS and I installed it from a DVD ISO image I had lying around along with other distros. I installed it alongside my windows vista and yes I can boot into either through GRUB. Deleting the 2 entries I made in /etc/fstab plus the ref to the floppy disk drive, then rebooting had no effect. Placing a pre burnt DVD drive had no effect and syslog showed nothing as far as I could see. (My vision is really too bad at the moment) At this stage do you think I should be changing /proc/mount instead. I have a vague recollection that when booting /etc/fstab is not even consulted. Maybe I should just give up for now until my vision improves hopefully. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
On 20 September 2015 at 13:04, David Goldsbrough wrote: > ... > It was > then I discovered my previous installation had not recognised my twin DVD > drives as I was unable to burn the ISO image after download. If you remove the extra fstab entries and reboot and plug in an already burnt dvd does it work? If not does anything appear in syslog when you plug it in? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
Hi David I'm not a big expert on these things. Here are a few ideas. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. First of all. I must say that I'm not sure what your problem is. You don't usually need an entry in fstab to mount DVDs. On my PC a pre-recorded CD or DVD just gets mounted automatically and an entry for /dev/sr0 appears in /etc/mtab (the mounted file systems). For a blank disk, I get a prompt to ask me what to do with it - e.g. to launch CC/DVD Creator. Most removable media will mount automatically and appear in the Launcher. Your floppy drive entry seems to be rubbish. I would just remove it, if you don't have a floppy drive. I'm using standard Ubuntu 15.04. What are you using? And how did you install it? Are you dual booting with Vista, for instance? Tony On 20 September 2015 at 13:04, David Goldsbrough wrote: > About 2 months ago I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a win vista machine that > was lying a little idle. One reason for this was the large screen attached > to it and my failing eyesight at the time. I now know that was a little > futile of a reason. > My eyesight deteriorated significantly afterwards to the point of having > an op to reattach my retina and I am now on the long recovery path. I have > been experimenting with all sorts of accessibility aids with little success > and lots of frustration. > I explored Ubuntu like distros aimed at those with poor eyesight. It was > then I discovered my previous installation had not recognised my twin DVD > drives as I was unable to burn the ISO image after download. Early > research suggested an edit to /etc/fstab might cure the problem so i added > two lines. See this:- > > Myfstab > # etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a > # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices > # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). > # > # > # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation > UUID=76577e65-1d5c-4447-8e5a-df0b3df73d0c / ext4 > errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation > UUID=76bf638d-db15-4c38-a1ec-659b5b5fd5dd noneswap > sw 0 0 > /dev/frw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > /dev/sr1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > > Now the floppy drive entry is really weird as the system does not have > one! The hard drive is a SATA drive. > If I insert USB stick the system picks it up and I can see files. The DVD > drives work OK in Win Vista . Indeed I can boot from them before GRUB and > the MBR kicks in. > Any help to fix would be most appreciated. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
Hi David, To find out what drives are connected you should type, in terminal (whichever type you're using) ' *sudo blkid*' and that should come up with something like... pooky2483@pooky2483-Kubuntu-1404-LTS:~$ *sudo blkid* /dev/sda1: UUID="a4cc9e70-36d1-4dcd-ad90-ec5c2aaf4b51" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sda2: UUID="718377f7-8759-44ad-888d-e0fb3f91c5e4" TYPE="swap" /dev/sda5: UUID="b670b54e-542b-43fe-9329-f620887acaa1" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sda6: LABEL="Drive5" UUID="127a7d9d-be7b-4ec8-9a05-661dd763d9e6" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Drive1" UUID="d5e1db61-b980-4624-801c-e0546b288b8f" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sdc1: LABEL="Drive3" UUID="3211899a-4095-4d76-8d34-70c534d52374" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sdi1: LABEL="EXT-01" UUID="70364fca-b0a2-4058-a976-1bd435e101a5" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sdj1: LABEL="EXT-02" UUID="e59d54c9-6b03-4788-94aa-ef1adb4ad2dd" TYPE="ext4" /dev/sdk1: LABEL="EXT-03" UUID="07056c2f-ff73-45b6-b633-8fee8eda675e" TYPE="ext4" pooky2483@pooky2483-Kubuntu-1404-LTS:~$ This is my 'fstab' (Sorry it's a bit messy) # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation UUID=a4cc9e70-36d1-4dcd-ad90-ec5c2aaf4b51 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda2 during installation UUID=718377f7-8759-44ad-888d-e0fb3f91c5e4 noneswap sw 0 0 # # # /dev/sdb1 /media/Drive1 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # UUID=d5e1db61-b980-4624-801c-e0546b288b8f ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 /dev/sdc1 /media/Drive3 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # UUID=3211899a-4095-4d76-8d34-70c534d52374 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 /dev/sda6 /media/Drive5 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # UUID=127a7d9d-be7b-4ec8-9a05-661dd763d9e6 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # 4TbHd /dev/sdi1 /media/EXT-01 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # UUID=70364fca-b0a2-4058-a976-1bd435e101a5 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # 3TbHd X 2 /dev/sdj1 /media/EXT-02 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 /dev/sdk1 /media/EXT-03 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # # # # /dev/sda1: UUID="a4cc9e70-36d1-4dcd-ad90-ec5c2aaf4b51" TYPE="ext4" # /dev/sda2: UUID="718377f7-8759-44ad-888d-e0fb3f91c5e4" TYPE="swap" # /dev/sda5: UUID="b670b54e-542b-43fe-9329-f620887acaa1" TYPE="ext4" # /dev/sda6: LABEL="Drive5" UUID="127a7d9d-be7b-4ec8-9a05-661dd763d9e6" TYPE="ext4" # /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Drive1" UUID="d5e1db61-b980-4624-801c-e0546b288b8f" TYPE="ext4" # /dev/sdc1: LABEL="Drive3" UUID="3211899a-4095-4d76-8d34-70c534d52374" TYPE="ext4" # /dev/sdi1: LABEL="EXT-01" UUID="70364fca-b0a2-4058-a976-1bd435e101a5" TYPE="ext4" # /dev/sdj1: LABEL="EXT-02" UUID="e59d54c9-6b03-4788-94aa-ef1adb4ad2dd" TYPE="ext4" # /dev/sdk1: LABEL="EXT-03" UUID="07056c2f-ff73-45b6-b633-8fee8eda675e" TYPE="ext4" # # /dev/sdd1 /media/Drive4 ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0 # /dev/sdc /media/Win-Storage ntfs-3g defaults,user,locale=en_GB.utf8 0 0 # # /dev/sdk1: LABEL="EXT-03" UUID="70364fca-b0a2-4058-a976-1bd435e101a5" TYPE="ext4" Also, my motherboard does not have a floppy drive port, I'm using an ASUS M578L-M/USB3. Hope this helps. p.s. I was a WinXP user until a friend showed me the error of my ways and introduced me to Ubuntu 11.10. I have since moved to Kubuntu and currently using 14.04LTS. Pete On 20/09/15 13:04, David Goldsbrough wrote: > > About 2 months ago I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a win vista machine > that was lying a little idle. One reason for this was the large > screen attached to it and my failing eyesight at the time. I now know > that was a little futile of a reason. > My eyesight deteriorated significantly afterwards to the point of > having an op to reattach my retina and I am now on the long recovery > path. I have been experimenting with all sorts of accessibility aids > with little success and lots of frustration. > I explored Ubuntu like distros aimed at those with poor eyesight. It > was then I discovered my previous installation had not recognised my > twin DVD drives as I was unable to burn the ISO image after download. > Early research suggested an edit to /etc/fstab might cure the problem > so i added two lines. See this:- > > Myfstab > # etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a > # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices > # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). > # > # > # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation > UUID=76577e65-1d5c-4447-8e5a-df0b3df73d0c / ext4 > errors=remount-ro 0 1 > # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation > UUID=76bf638d-db15-4c38-a1ec-659b5b5fd5dd noneswap > sw 0 0 > /dev/frw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 > /dev/sr1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto
[ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
About 2 months ago I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on a win vista machine that was lying a little idle. One reason for this was the large screen attached to it and my failing eyesight at the time. I now know that was a little futile of a reason. My eyesight deteriorated significantly afterwards to the point of having an op to reattach my retina and I am now on the long recovery path. I have been experimenting with all sorts of accessibility aids with little success and lots of frustration. I explored Ubuntu like distros aimed at those with poor eyesight. It was then I discovered my previous installation had not recognised my twin DVD drives as I was unable to burn the ISO image after download. Early research suggested an edit to /etc/fstab might cure the problem so i added two lines. See this:- Myfstab # etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5). # # # / was on /dev/sda5 during installation UUID=76577e65-1d5c-4447-8e5a-df0b3df73d0c / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation UUID=76bf638d-db15-4c38-a1ec-659b5b5fd5dd noneswap sw 0 0 /dev/frw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 /dev/sr1 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0 Now the floppy drive entry is really weird as the system does not have one! The hard drive is a SATA drive. If I insert USB stick the system picks it up and I can see files. The DVD drives work OK in Win Vista . Indeed I can boot from them before GRUB and the MBR kicks in. Any help to fix would be most appreciated. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
