Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
thanks, Solved! The problem was that PartitionMagic had renumbered the partitions, so that grub's menu.lst did not match reality. using a live cd, I did thus: * open terminal * $sudo grub * grub>find /boot/grub/stage1 * grub says> hd0,5 * grub>quit * mount the disk via the file browser (click it) * back to terminal * cd /media/disk/boot/grub * sudo gedit menu.lst * change hd0,6 to hd0,5 (commands from memory, but should be enough for you to figure out if you run into the same dark alley) This follows the advice I saw in many forums, but most cases reported grub wouldn't start at all. If that happens, you might need to reinstall it. Since this was not my situation, I assumed the advice didn't apply. The problem was that although grub loaded, and could boot windows, and all partitions where there, their numbers had changed and didn't match the descriptors in menu.lst. HT dark otter for pointing me in the right direction. Still have the other machine, but that seems like a tougher nut. Anyone know of a good Ubuntu service lab in central London? - Yishay 2008/7/18 Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Are the Ubuntu partitions still there and working, Yishay? > > Try booting into a Live CD and see... there should be three I believe; > one for swap, one for boot and one for the rest. > > If they are your issue is probably that the grub.lst now refers to the > wrong partition... if it's a dual boot I'd expect it to be (hd0,1) > with Windows on (hd0,0) but no experience of having used > PartitionMagic or idea of what it's done to your install. > > What was it that your friend was trying to do with PartitionMagic? > That might give us some clues. > > Sean > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- ___ Yishay Mor, Researcher, London Knowledge Lab http://www.lkl.ac.uk/people/mor.html http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=yishaym%40gmail.com +44-20-7837 x5737 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
Are the Ubuntu partitions still there and working, Yishay? Try booting into a Live CD and see... there should be three I believe; one for swap, one for boot and one for the rest. If they are your issue is probably that the grub.lst now refers to the wrong partition... if it's a dual boot I'd expect it to be (hd0,1) with Windows on (hd0,0) but no experience of having used PartitionMagic or idea of what it's done to your install. What was it that your friend was trying to do with PartitionMagic? That might give us some clues. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
I got an error 17 after re-partitioning. I can't guarantee that this is the case on yours but mine was because the number of the partition with ubuntu on changed becasue of the partitioning (according to the info I read error 17 means it can't find the operating system). Because the number of the partition was different grub couldn't find it's menu.lst etc. I booted up puppy linux and managed to fix it by re-installing grub on the HD (from in puppy) and (also in puppy) changing the menu.lst to relfect ubuntu's new location. As I say, can't guarantee it will work for you, but it did when I got error 17. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
to be fair, if you get any amount of support with the box, its worth your $20 I'm stuck with two Ubuntu laptops which won't boot (well, they boot windows - just to make add insult). On one, I had a power failure mid-upgrade and lost home, on the other someone tried re-partitioning with PratitionMagic, and left me with grub err 17. I'm willing to pay way over $20 for someone to fix them. And believe me, I've been to the forums. 2008/7/17 SteveM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I chose to purchase a retail boxed Suse from Amazon for (then) about > > 60 uk pounds and was pleased with what I received. It included CDs, > > DVD, two paperback manuals and 60 days support from Novell. > > I saw the boxed Suse in PCWorld and bought it out of curiosity. You > cannot underestimate how useful those manuals were :-) > > -- > SteveM > > Linux User #290313 > http://counter.li.org > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- ___ Yishay Mor, Researcher, London Knowledge Lab http://www.lkl.ac.uk/people/mor.html http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=yishaym%40gmail.com +44-20-7837 x5737 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I chose to purchase a retail boxed Suse from Amazon for (then) about > 60 uk pounds and was pleased with what I received. It included CDs, > DVD, two paperback manuals and 60 days support from Novell. I saw the boxed Suse in PCWorld and bought it out of curiosity. You cannot underestimate how useful those manuals were :-) -- SteveM Linux User #290313 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:48 AM, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Several years ago, when I was a weary Windows user wanting to dig an > escape tunnel to the free world, I did know about downloading free but > I was uncomfortable about it. Funnily enough, this popped up at the top of my Ubuntu folder in gmail: "Full Ubuntu DVD only £6 - linux-magazine.co.uk - Plus 2 additional full distro DVDs Don't waste time downloading Linux!" Oh, the almighty and all-knowing Google. Josh -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
I agree, Alan. My first distro was actually Lycoris (formerly Redmond Linux) which was one of the first attempts to make a "Windows-esque distro"... soon my near neighbour Martin "Santa Claus" Wheeler was on my doorstep with a SuSE box set which he sold me for £15, siting that the manuals were worth that alone. Never really liked SuSE much and eventually settled for Red Hat 9. Had never managed to get certain things working, though, and that used to really bug me. One day at a LUG meeting somebody brought along a copy of Warty Warthog and we tried installing on my laptop - remarkably everything worked out of the box, which blew me away! I also discovered I preferred Gnome to KDE and have never looked back. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
Michael Rimicans wrote: > Just been reading this on that fine source of information, The Register: > > http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/10/ubuntu_best_buy_amazon > > > Apparently, Canonical have started selling Ubuntu for $20 in America via > Amazon and Bestbuy. It comes in a box, complete with documentation and > 60 days of support. Several years ago, when I was a weary Windows user wanting to dig an escape tunnel to the free world, I did know about downloading free but I was uncomfortable about it. I chose to purchase a retail boxed Suse from Amazon for (then) about 60 uk pounds and was pleased with what I received. It included CDs, DVD, two paperback manuals and 60 days support from Novell. In several months of free world experience, I then gained in confidence about what the fredom culture really meant, and I was happy to subsequently download for myself. it is easy to underestimate or even totally forget, the effect that the indoctrination of a product such as MS windows and the retail habit actually have. The 20$ Ubuntu Box is an excellent idea, including support as it does. If it had not been for the Suse box a few years ago I may not have been here now! -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
Michael Rimicans wrote: > Just been reading this on that fine source of information, The Register: > > http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/10/ubuntu_best_buy_amazon > > > Apparently, Canonical have started selling Ubuntu for $20 in America via > Amazon and Bestbuy. It comes in a box, complete with documentation and > 60 days of support. > > Comments? > > Well I think it's a good thing. I mean if someone saw Ubuntu in PC World and heard a bit about it and only had to spend say £20, if they got stuck then they could get the support they need to get up and running. I'd like to think though that after the 60 days, or during the 60 days they were pointed towards other avenues of support such as the official forums or local Ubuntu teams. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
Ubuntu is free as in freedom, not as in beer. Any of us could sell Ubuntu on CDs, box sets whatever - it's allowed. Great that Amazon and Canonical are promoting the OS together. Probably just what is needed to get that public awareness of it - many people think if something is free it's inferior. Personally if I was Canonical I'd sell it for more, in order to enhance its perceived "worth". A tenner doesn't sound much. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Michael Rimicans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just been reading this on that fine source of information, The Register: > Apparently, Canonical have started selling Ubuntu for $20 in America via > Amazon and Bestbuy. It comes in a box, complete with documentation and > 60 days of support. > > Comments? Sounds like a good deal. An excellent method of getting more visibility out in the market place. Hopefully they'll do the same in the UK and Europe. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
I probably spend a few quid in CD-R's as I keep loosing the ubuntu ones. Having a printed one is a benefit as it is distinguishable. Could this be the version for the non techies, due to the support provided? Great for parents etc. Mj On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:37 PM, James Grabham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great would be the best word - a tenner for a boxd version with a manual > and corporate support - bargain!! > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Michael Rimicans < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just been reading this on that fine source of information, The Register: >> >> http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/10/ubuntu_best_buy_amazon >> >> >> Apparently, Canonical have started selling Ubuntu for $20 in America via >> Amazon and Bestbuy. It comes in a box, complete with documentation and >> 60 days of support. >> >> Comments? >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ >> > > > > -- > Mr JE Grabham > jgrabham.co.nr > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
Great would be the best word - a tenner for a boxd version with a manual and corporate support - bargain!! On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Michael Rimicans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just been reading this on that fine source of information, The Register: > > http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/10/ubuntu_best_buy_amazon > > > Apparently, Canonical have started selling Ubuntu for $20 in America via > Amazon and Bestbuy. It comes in a box, complete with documentation and > 60 days of support. > > Comments? > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > -- Mr JE Grabham jgrabham.co.nr -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Michael Rimicans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just been reading this on that fine source of information, The Register: > > http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/10/ubuntu_best_buy_amazon > > > Apparently, Canonical have started selling Ubuntu for $20 in America via > Amazon and Bestbuy. It comes in a box, complete with documentation and > 60 days of support. > > Comments? There's nothing wrong with marketing it, they already sell fancy, boxed and documented copies on their website, why not expand? It's more money for canonical, more resources for us :) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu for $20
Just been reading this on that fine source of information, The Register: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2008/07/10/ubuntu_best_buy_amazon Apparently, Canonical have started selling Ubuntu for $20 in America via Amazon and Bestbuy. It comes in a box, complete with documentation and 60 days of support. Comments? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
