Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They will, I've asked them before about it. It'll have an American power supply, so you'll need a converter (or to buy a compatible one from ebay or somewhere...). I couldn't be bothered with the hassle, so decided not to bother, but if they ever start supplying the UK officially, they'll be number one on my list... The power supplies are, I think, 110-240V so all you actually need is one of those £2 or similar adaptor plugs that you see in chemists/airports etc. so I wouldn't necessarily get put off by the fact it's a US power supply at all. But I'm not convinced about savings - Tesco, for instance, will do you an HP Pavilion Dual Core laptop with Vista installed for £379.99 boasting 2GB of RAM (the $699 one in the states - which works out almost exactly the same price as the Tesco HP, only has 1GB), NVIDIA graphics (that's an extra $125 on the states one), 120GB hard drive (again, extra) etc... and that's before you take into account the duty to be paid on US imports, delivery charges, difficulty in getting the thing back to the manufacturers if it goes wrong etc. etc. Up until recently hardware compatability was an issue but I've not recently had any great issues with onboard wireless in Ubuntu and sound, graphics etc. are all well supported. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnathon Tinsley wrote: It'll have an American power supply And, presumably, an American keyboard (no Pound Sterling symbol on the 3 key, for example, and the double-quotes relocated elsewhere). If you're a touch typist, steer well clear of importing laptops unless you're sure you'll get a UK keyboard. This is always a bit of a trial... do you get used to the US layout, in which case the keyboard matches what appears on screen, or set up Ubuntu to use a UK layout despite the fact the keyboard says something different... US isn't that hard to get used to, to be honest... not as bad as the German (QWERTZ) or French (AZERTY) which is a complete headtrip... was on a course in Munich for 2 weeks and never got used to the former at all... I can switch pretty much between US and UK intuitively these days... it's not that many keys in different places. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
German here... http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~tphillip/german-keyboard-a.jpg French here... http://www.lehman.cuny.edu/faculty/hoffmann/itc/techteach/keyboard/keybfr.gif Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
2008/5/10 Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline I bought Dell's entry-level laptop last year (then, the 6400N) with Feisty pre-installed. Worked flawlessly; and upgraded to Gutsy without a hitch. Dell are currently selling these: http://tinyurl.com/34fctn The laptops look as though they come with Gutsy. Should upgrade OK in the normal way. I've been very happy with my Dell laptop - solid, reliable, and the cheap one seems good value for money. I'd buy another if I needed a laptop. Only thing to mention is that Dell partitions the disk rather idiosyncratically. If you want a classic partitioning scheme - e.g. '/' + 'swap' + '/home' - you're going to have to reinstall Ubuntu on the Dell. And in that case, you might want to consider other options, where you'd have to install the OS yourself anyway. But, of course, you can be confident with the Dells that the hardware will work, even if you do reinstall. HTH Mac Hi all Would the Dell Inspiron 1525 upgrade to Hardy without any problem? ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com tu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ukhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- --- London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
2008/5/10 Michael G Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com http://www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com The guys at LUGradio did a review of the dell one, the XPS M1330 and seemed very chuffed with it. http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1~oid=uk~en~202~may_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315~~http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1%7Eoid=uk%7Een%7E202%7Emay_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315%7E%7E There is also efficientpc http://efficientpc.co.uk/laptops/anubis/ And an American company (not sure about the shipping costs) http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=28 --Hi there thanks for your help- is Gutsy what I should be asking for- not Hardy? Sorry I'm so ignorant- also I looked for the XPS M1330 and it seemed to only have Windows on it. --- London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
2008/5/11 Andrew Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Really useful website-an you tell me what Linux (modified Xandros)is 2008/5/10 Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline I bought Dell's entry-level laptop last year (then, the 6400N) with Feisty pre-installed. Worked flawlessly; and upgraded to Gutsy without a hitch. Dell are currently selling these: http://tinyurl.com/34fctn The laptops look as though they come with Gutsy. Should upgrade OK in the normal way. I've been very happy with my Dell laptop - solid, reliable, and the cheap one seems good value for money. I'd buy another if I needed a laptop. Only thing to mention is that Dell partitions the disk rather idiosyncratically. If you want a classic partitioning scheme - e.g. '/' + 'swap' + '/home' - you're going to have to reinstall Ubuntu on the Dell. And in that case, you might want to consider other options, where you'd have to install the OS yourself anyway. But, of course, you can be confident with the Dells that the hardware will work, even if you do reinstall. HTH Mac http://www.linuxpreloaded.com/ May help you to fins a good source for a GNU/Linux pre-installed laptop. :) Hope it helps. -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- --- London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
Quoting London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/5/10 Michael G Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com http://www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com The guys at LUGradio did a review of the dell one, the XPS M1330 and seemed very chuffed with it. http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1~oid=uk~en~202~may_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315~~http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1%7Eoid=uk%7Een%7E202%7Emay_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315%7E%7E There is also efficientpc http://efficientpc.co.uk/laptops/anubis/ And an American company (not sure about the shipping costs) http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=28 --Hi there thanks for your help- is Gutsy what I should be asking for- not Hardy? Sorry I'm so ignorant- also I looked for the XPS M1330 and it seemed to only have Windows on it. --- London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com http://dell.co.uk/ubuntu I am pretty sure system76 won't ship outside of the states. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/5/10 Michael G Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com http://www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com The guys at LUGradio did a review of the dell one, the XPS M1330 and seemed very chuffed with it. http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1~oid=uk~en~202~may_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315~~http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1330?c=ukl=ens=dhscs=ukdhs1%7Eoid=uk%7Een%7E202%7Emay_xpsnb_m1330_ubuntu_n05x3315%7E%7E There is also efficientpc http://efficientpc.co.uk/laptops/anubis/ And an American company (not sure about the shipping costs) http://system76.com/index.php?cPath=28 --Hi there thanks for your help- is Gutsy what I should be asking for- not Hardy? Sorry I'm so ignorant- also I looked for the XPS M1330 and it seemed to only have Windows on it. --- London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com http://dell.co.uk/ubuntu I am pretty sure system76 won't ship outside of the states. Mj They will, I've asked them before about it. It'll have an American power supply, so you'll need a converter (or to buy a compatible one from ebay or somewhere...). I couldn't be bothered with the hassle, so decided not to bother, but if they ever start supplying the UK officially, they'll be number one on my list... Kind Regards, Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
Johnathon Tinsley wrote: It'll have an American power supply And, presumably, an American keyboard (no Pound Sterling symbol on the 3 key, for example, and the double-quotes relocated elsewhere). If you're a touch typist, steer well clear of importing laptops unless you're sure you'll get a UK keyboard. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline The m1330 is a nice, compact notebook, which has got a lot of positive reviews. It depends on what you are looking for in a notebook, I think that a 13 inch is about as large as is conveniently portable, although still much less than something such as the EEE or the tiny sony things. Mj I have an M1330, for other stuff.. (an inspiron as my main) The build quality is exceptional. Well recommended. I enquired with Dell about a month ago about the M1330 with Ubuntu preloaded. It seems that they don't supply it any more, instead favouring the Inspiron 1525. However, that may have changed in the month since I contacted them. Adam -- http://www.monkeez.org PGP key: 0x7111B833 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
Quoting Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline Hi Caroline, I bought this Dell Inspiron 1525 (the basic model) about a month ago. It came with Gutsy pre-installed. I agree with Mac's comments about the partitioning: it came with 4 partitions 1. a click-through license application that only appears the first time you boot, 2. a copy of the Dell-specific Ubuntu ISO image, for re-installing, 3. the root partition, 4. the swap partition. The only minor niggle I've noticed so far is that I can't enable Compiz. I've only tried once though, and I didn't look for what the error message was. Other than that, it's a very nice machine. Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Dell do a couple, the inspiron as mentioned above, and the XPSm1330. From spending about ten minutes playing with a 1525, they seem to be much better than the older inspirons, in terms of build quality. Some of the previous ones have been pretty skanky. The m1330 is a nice, compact notebook, which has got a lot of positive reviews. It depends on what you are looking for in a notebook, I think that a 13 inch is about as large as is conveniently portable, although still much less than something such as the EEE or the tiny sony things. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 9:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Neil Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 4:45 PM, London School of Puppetry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline Hi Caroline, I bought this Dell Inspiron 1525 (the basic model) about a month ago. It came with Gutsy pre-installed. I agree with Mac's comments about the partitioning: it came with 4 partitions 1. a click-through license application that only appears the first time you boot, 2. a copy of the Dell-specific Ubuntu ISO image, for re-installing, 3. the root partition, 4. the swap partition. The only minor niggle I've noticed so far is that I can't enable Compiz. I've only tried once though, and I didn't look for what the error message was. Other than that, it's a very nice machine. Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Dell do a couple, the inspiron as mentioned above, and the XPSm1330. From spending about ten minutes playing with a 1525, they seem to be much better than the older inspirons, in terms of build quality. Some of the previous ones have been pretty skanky. The m1330 is a nice, compact notebook, which has got a lot of positive reviews. It depends on what you are looking for in a notebook, I think that a 13 inch is about as large as is conveniently portable, although still much less than something such as the EEE or the tiny sony things. Mj I have an M1330, for other stuff.. (an inspiron as my main) The build quality is exceptional. Well recommended. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England And Northern Ireland -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline London School of Puppetry www.londonschoolofpuppetry.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline I bought Dell's entry-level laptop last year (then, the 6400N) with Feisty pre-installed. Worked flawlessly; and upgraded to Gutsy without a hitch. Dell are currently selling these: http://tinyurl.com/34fctn The laptops look as though they come with Gutsy. Should upgrade OK in the normal way. I've been very happy with my Dell laptop - solid, reliable, and the cheap one seems good value for money. I'd buy another if I needed a laptop. Only thing to mention is that Dell partitions the disk rather idiosyncratically. If you want a classic partitioning scheme - e.g. '/' + 'swap' + '/home' - you're going to have to reinstall Ubuntu on the Dell. And in that case, you might want to consider other options, where you'd have to install the OS yourself anyway. But, of course, you can be confident with the Dells that the hardware will work, even if you do reinstall. HTH Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] a new laptop
2008/5/10 Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED]: London School of Puppetry wrote: Hi there I am about to buy a new laptop- I was told that Dell do one with Hardy Heron already installed. Is this ok, oe should I get one with nothing then put HH onto it. I suppose this is just -- -basic advice I need. Caroline I bought Dell's entry-level laptop last year (then, the 6400N) with Feisty pre-installed. Worked flawlessly; and upgraded to Gutsy without a hitch. Dell are currently selling these: http://tinyurl.com/34fctn The laptops look as though they come with Gutsy. Should upgrade OK in the normal way. I've been very happy with my Dell laptop - solid, reliable, and the cheap one seems good value for money. I'd buy another if I needed a laptop. Only thing to mention is that Dell partitions the disk rather idiosyncratically. If you want a classic partitioning scheme - e.g. '/' + 'swap' + '/home' - you're going to have to reinstall Ubuntu on the Dell. And in that case, you might want to consider other options, where you'd have to install the OS yourself anyway. But, of course, you can be confident with the Dells that the hardware will work, even if you do reinstall. HTH Mac http://www.linuxpreloaded.com/ May help you to fins a good source for a GNU/Linux pre-installed laptop. :) Hope it helps. -- Andrew Alexander Barber -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
