Re: [ubuntu-uk] have to start gnome-panel manualy after upgrade to jaunty

2009-06-18 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/6/15 thirstyh2o thirsty...@gmail.com:
 On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:00:42 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
 You could try creating a new user on the machine and see if that works.
 If so, try deleting/renaming the .gnome2 and .gnome2_private hidden
 directories in your home directory, then logging back in. This will lose
 any customisations you've made to Gnome, but should also get rid of the
 bad setting that is preventing the panel from running.

 Well, I did not try creating a new user but I did tried deleting the
 folders you suggest, and some others too. E.g. I tried deleting .conf
 and .gconf too.

 I did not helped.

 So, for now, as I already mentioned, the problem is fixed by explicitly
 entering gnome-panel in the list of Startup Applications applet.

 This way I am happy Jaunty user (though I'm not really much excited by
 it).

 The only thing that bothers me is a question:Why?  What's the heck is
 wrong?.

 The gnome-panel has been starting in Hardy, it started just fine after
 intermediate upgrade to Intrepid and then all at a sudden it stopped
 starting after, without this rather smooth, upgrade to Jaunty.

I would definitely try creating another user. There might well be
another configuration directory that is causing the problem.

Cofion,
Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] have to start gnome-panel manualy after upgrade to jaunty

2009-06-15 Thread thirstyh2o
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:00:42 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:

 Tried to run [gnome-panel ] but it still dies when I close the
 terminal. 

Sorry, my bad. The above is definitely less then clear. Here is what I 
meant to say.  

I wanted to run the gnome-terminal process at the background, then close 
all programs and restart the session.  Before doing this, I selected 
Automatically remember running application when logging out in Startup 
Application applet.

The idea was to fix the problem by forcing the system remembering its 
state. 

Well, all it remembered was the terminal being run, but not its child 
process certainly. So, this did not work.

And BTW, ask me why I mentioned this at all? I do not know. :-)  Now, I 
see that it just obscures the matter. Sorry, again.

 You could try creating a new user on the machine and see if that works.
 If so, try deleting/renaming the .gnome2 and .gnome2_private hidden
 directories in your home directory, then logging back in. This will lose
 any customisations you've made to Gnome, but should also get rid of the
 bad setting that is preventing the panel from running.

Well, I did not try creating a new user but I did tried deleting the 
folders you suggest, and some others too. E.g. I tried deleting .conf 
and .gconf too. 

I did not helped.

So, for now, as I already mentioned, the problem is fixed by explicitly 
entering gnome-panel in the list of Startup Applications applet.

This way I am happy Jaunty user (though I'm not really much excited by 
it).  

The only thing that bothers me is a question:Why?  What's the heck is 
wrong?. 

The gnome-panel has been starting in Hardy, it started just fine after 
intermediate upgrade to Intrepid and then all at a sudden it stopped 
starting after, without this rather smooth, upgrade to Jaunty.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] have to start gnome-panel manualy after upgrade to jaunty

2009-06-14 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/6/13 thirstyh2o thirsty...@gmail.com:
 Need your help folks,

 I upgraded my laptop from Hardy to Intrepid and then to Jaunty yesterday.

 The problem is that gnome-panel never starts upon boot. Executing
 [killall -v gnome-panels] reports no process killed.

 Tried to run [gnome-panel ] but it still dies when I close the terminal.
 There are seemingly not helpful warnings produced in console:

If you're running this command from a terminal then closing the
terminal, it is expected behaviour for the gnome-panel process to be
killed when the terminal process is killed.

The gnome-panel process will receive a HUP (hangup) signal when the
terminal process is killed. Running it in the background does not stop
this signal from killing the gnome-panel process.

Try running [nohup gnome-panel] or maybe [nohup gnome-panel ] - don't
know if you need to put it in the background or not, I have a feeling
that nohup might already do that.

As you can maybe guess from my description above and the name of the
command, nohup means that the child process ignores the HUP signal and
keeps running. I think the details are slightly more complicated than
that, but that's the gist of the command.

HTH

Cofion/Regards,
Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] have to start gnome-panel manualy after upgrade to jaunty

2009-06-14 Thread Neil Greenwood
2009/6/14 Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com:
 2009/6/13 thirstyh2o thirsty...@gmail.com:
 Need your help folks,

 I upgraded my laptop from Hardy to Intrepid and then to Jaunty yesterday.

 The problem is that gnome-panel never starts upon boot. Executing
 [killall -v gnome-panels] reports no process killed.

 Tried to run [gnome-panel ] but it still dies when I close the terminal.
 There are seemingly not helpful warnings produced in console:

 If you're running this command from a terminal then closing the
 terminal, it is expected behaviour for the gnome-panel process to be
 killed when the terminal process is killed.

 The gnome-panel process will receive a HUP (hangup) signal when the
 terminal process is killed. Running it in the background does not stop
 this signal from killing the gnome-panel process.

 Try running [nohup gnome-panel] or maybe [nohup gnome-panel ] - don't
 know if you need to put it in the background or not, I have a feeling
 that nohup might already do that.

 As you can maybe guess from my description above and the name of the
 command, nohup means that the child process ignores the HUP signal and
 keeps running. I think the details are slightly more complicated than
 that, but that's the gist of the command.

 HTH

 Cofion/Regards,
 Neil.


Sorry, I've just realised that that suggestion doesn't solve your problem!

You could try creating a new user on the machine and see if that
works. If so, try deleting/renaming the .gnome2 and .gnome2_private
hidden directories in your home directory, then logging back in. This
will lose any customisations you've made to Gnome, but should also get
rid of the bad setting that is preventing the panel from running.

Let us know if you have any more questions, or don't understand
something I've written or something that happens when you try these
instructions.

Cofion,
Neil.

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