[ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo?
hi everyone been having LOTS of issues with my newly built pc - runs smoothly most of the time, but does really random things: freezes for no reason, compiz dying for no visible reason etc, and it's taken to booting up in just under 10 minutes if I'm lucky. 4-core processor, 2GB ram, 1GB graphics memory etc - not something I'd expect to happen on a system of that spec. Or am I just being naive and expecting too much? :P Anyway, I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from source, like you would with gentoo (I think that's right), where every package installs itself to work with your hardware perfectly... or does that completely defy the idea of ubuntu? Thanks :D === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P attachment: smiley-10.pngattachment: smiley-1.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues relating to drivers that are causing the instability. As to the Installing Ubuntu like Gentoo thing I have absolutely no idea, but I suspect not. Mj Quoting Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi everyone been having LOTS of issues with my newly built pc - runs smoothly most of the time, but does really random things: freezes for no reason, compiz dying for no visible reason etc, and it's taken to booting up in just under 10 minutes if I'm lucky. 4-core processor, 2GB ram, 1GB graphics memory etc - not something I'd expect to happen on a system of that spec. Or am I just being naive and expecting too much? :P Anyway, I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from source, like you would with gentoo (I think that's right), where every package installs itself to work with your hardware perfectly... or does that completely defy the idea of ubuntu? Thanks :D === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues relating to drivers that are causing the instability. As to the Installing Ubuntu like Gentoo thing I have absolutely no idea, but I suspect not. Mj Quoting Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi everyone been having LOTS of issues with my newly built pc - runs smoothly most of the time, but does really random things: freezes for no reason, compiz dying for no visible reason etc, and it's taken to booting up in just under 10 minutes if I'm lucky. 4-core processor, 2GB ram, 1GB graphics memory etc - not something I'd expect to happen on a system of that spec. Or am I just being naive and expecting too much? :P Anyway, I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from source, like you would with gentoo (I think that's right), where every package installs itself to work with your hardware perfectly... or does that completely defy the idea of ubuntu? Thanks :D === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P Your best bet would probably be to installer ubuntu-server, then install the packages manually for a _similar_ method to gentoo... but I don't really see much point. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIB04mauMjEM4rxIQRAo9xAJ4tKtuUugSI78C7aw5V5dEmQT/fsgCfco1i kvpDR8gnylijYvQnFfs+r8Q= =DMEm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 14:18 +0100, andylockran wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure this isn't a hardware issue? Could it be overheating/a drive DOA? What components are you using, as there may be issues relating to drivers that are causing the instability. As to the Installing Ubuntu like Gentoo thing I have absolutely no idea, but I suspect not. Mj Quoting Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi everyone been having LOTS of issues with my newly built pc - runs smoothly most of the time, but does really random things: freezes for no reason, compiz dying for no visible reason etc, and it's taken to booting up in just under 10 minutes if I'm lucky. 4-core processor, 2GB ram, 1GB graphics memory etc - not something I'd expect to happen on a system of that spec. Or am I just being naive and expecting too much? :P Anyway, I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from source, like you would with gentoo (I think that's right), where every package installs itself to work with your hardware perfectly... or does that completely defy the idea of ubuntu? Thanks :D === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P Your best bet would probably be to installer ubuntu-server, then install the packages manually for a _similar_ method to gentoo... but I don't really see much point. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIB04mauMjEM4rxIQRAo9xAJ4tKtuUugSI78C7aw5V5dEmQT/fsgCfco1i kvpDR8gnylijYvQnFfs+r8Q= =DMEm -END PGP SIGNATURE- Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too (don't know if that's posisble :/). During bootup, shutdown, hibernate, suspend and resume from either of those, it dumps data - in the syslog it says it did that for the best part of 8 minutes. The graphics card thermometer says it's fine, peaking at 50 degrees, which I guess is alright? Don't think I've got a processor thermometer, or at least not one that it recognises. Andy: no, I can't see the point in that either, as I'd just end up with the same thing wouldn't I? Just wondered if there was a process similar that I could use, as I'm pretty sure the hardware is alright (apart from the ram). Cheers === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :-P attachment: smiley-10.pngattachment: smiley-9.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too (don't know if that's posisble ). If the ram is damaged if can cause lots of random problems. I've found that it's always worth running memtest on any new PC to check that the ram is okay. Do you have a live CD handy? There's an option in the menu to allow you to run memtest - I'd advise letting it run overnight to see if it comes up with any errors. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too (don't know if that's posisble ). If the ram is damaged if can cause lots of random problems. I've found that it's always worth running memtest on any new PC to check that the ram is okay. Do you have a live CD handy? There's an option in the menu to allow you to run memtest - I'd advise letting it run overnight to see if it comes up with any errors. I did actually run a memtest for almost a whole day, passing 8 times with no errors, but it wasn't on a live cd, it was from the grub boot menu - would that make any difference? I can't test the broken ram because the motherboard won't even boot - luckily Aria have already authorised the RMA-ing of the ram though. I'll give it another go later. I currently don't have the internet in my room, so I'm moving the whole pc to another room so I can update. I came to the conclusion that possibly I have particularly buggy/unstable updates, so maybe updating it might help. It did seem to run alright before my last update :/ Thanks === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :-P attachment: smiley-10.pngattachment: smiley-9.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too (don't know if that's posisble ). If the ram is damaged if can cause lots of random problems. I've found that it's always worth running memtest on any new PC to check that the ram is okay. Do you have a live CD handy? There's an option in the menu to allow you to run memtest - I'd advise letting it run overnight to see if it comes up with any errors. I did actually run a memtest for almost a whole day, passing 8 times with no errors, but it wasn't on a live cd, it was from the grub boot menu - would that make any difference? I can't test the broken ram because the motherboard won't even boot - luckily Aria have already authorised the RMA-ing of the ram though. That's the same memtest. I'd forgotten it was on the grub boot menu as well - I don't dual boot so don't get to see it very often! If the ram currently in the PC passed when you ran memtest before then it should be fine. Can you post some of the errors from the syslog somewhere for us to look at? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:45 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 15:18 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt: there's the possibilty that there's a problem with the ram - one chip was bad, so I can't even use it, but the other might be damaged a bit too (don't know if that's posisble ). If the ram is damaged if can cause lots of random problems. I've found that it's always worth running memtest on any new PC to check that the ram is okay. Do you have a live CD handy? There's an option in the menu to allow you to run memtest - I'd advise letting it run overnight to see if it comes up with any errors. I did actually run a memtest for almost a whole day, passing 8 times with no errors, but it wasn't on a live cd, it was from the grub boot menu - would that make any difference? I can't test the broken ram because the motherboard won't even boot - luckily Aria have already authorised the RMA-ing of the ram though. That's the same memtest. I'd forgotten it was on the grub boot menu as well - I don't dual boot so don't get to see it very often! If the ram currently in the PC passed when you ran memtest before then it should be fine. Can you post some of the errors from the syslog somewhere for us to look at? yup... just about to boot my pc on the net, so I'll be back in about 20 minutes :P === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :-P attachment: smiley-10.png-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On 17 Apr 2008, at 14:01, Farran wrote: snip Anyway, I was wondering if it's possible to install ubuntu from source, like you would with gentoo (I think that's right), where every package installs itself to work with your hardware perfectly... or does that completely defy the idea of ubuntu? Gentoo is a source distribution and as such compiles each individual package on your system using CFLAGS that (so the theory goes) milk the most performance out of your specific hardware (of course finding the correct CFLAGS can be a frustrating exercise for a user). Ubuntu is a binary distribution so you have packages that have been compiled using CFLAGS that the developers have selected. These are normally the best choice for the WIDEST range of hardware. With a machine of your spec I very much doubt that the packages are the problem and as others have suggested I would check your hardware. Regards Huw-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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... it also reckons I have no updates, but it's been at least two months since I last went on the net :/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too large. Not been moderated yet: I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI approved nVidia memory 1024mb SLI nVidia 8600GTS graphics card Intel core 2 duo q6600 G0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R motherboard That makes sense I suppose, so it's most likely the ram. Here's some of the syslog attached, as I have no idea what's necessary, so I'll give you the last bootup. Sorry it's so long, as I'm not sure when it crashed (again). Thanks === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On 17/04/2008, Farran Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too large. Not been moderated yet: I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI approved nVidia memory 1024mb SLI nVidia 8600GTS graphics card Intel core 2 duo q6600 G0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R motherboard That makes sense I suppose, so it's most likely the ram. If that ram pasted memtest then it should be fine, so it's most likely some other piece of hardware. Here's some of the syslog attached, as I have no idea what's necessary, so I'll give you the last bootup. Sorry it's so long, as I'm not sure when it crashed (again). Please don't send huge files to the list! Stick it up online somewhere, like pastebin.ubuntu.com and email the link instead. As for not having any reported updates, what happens when you try 'apt-get update' on the command line? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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- Farran Lee wrote: ... it also reckons I have no updates, but it's been at least two months since I last went on the net :/ Open a terminal, and run sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade -y That will check for updates, and upgrade them (without asking if you really want to upgrade them). I wouldn't reccomend you run this on a hardy box (I always check what is going to get updated...) but apart from that it should be fine. Kind Regards, Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:27 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: Farran wrote: I did actually run a memtest for almost a whole day, passing 8 times with no errors Therefore I would strongly suspect your CPU is overheating. When most modern CPUs overheat, they automatically slow themselves down to avoid permanent damage. When the PC crashes, immediately reboot into BIOS and check the CPU temperature. A typical temperature would be in the 45-55c range. Anything over 55c may or may not mean you have a problem. Anything approaching 70c is very suspicious. Over 70c may cause permanent damage in the long run. Try booting up with the case open and check that the CPU fan is rotating and is not obstructed. Also check the airflow through the case (eg. dust lumps accumulating in the front or back grilles), and check the airflow through the PSU (many machines rely on the PSU fan to suck air through the case). If your BIOS supports overclocking, check that it is using non-overclocked settings. Again, if your BIOS supports CPU fan speed settings, check that the BIOS CPU fan setting isn't on super-slow. Or, just reset your BIOS to factory defaults - the take off and nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure option. If you replace/re-fit your CPU fan, ensure you use some silicone grease to get a good heat transfer contact between the CPU and the heatsink (but don't coat everything with grease, that'll prevent airflow - only the bit where the CPU touches the heatsink). Most CPU fans come with a sticky pad of grease already fitted, but if yours has worn thin, buy a tiny tube of silicone grease from Maplins or similar for about 2 quid. If the fan or heatsink is gunked up, use a screwdriver to unscrew the fan from the heatsink before cleaning. If the fan is gunked up, consider replacing the whole CPU+heatsink anyway, no matter how well you clean it (since the fan blades will most likely be unbalanced now). As Matt said, it's most likely either overheating, or the hard drive is knackered. It's difficult to check the hard drive without wiping the data already on it, so the best thing to do is to eliminate RAM and overheating first. Clattering noises or excessive whine sounds are symptoms of knackered hard drives, but not always. To test the drive without wiping it, find a spare second-hand drive, disconnect your original drive, and install Ubuntu on the spare drive. If the spare drive works much better than the original, your original is dying. Next I'd consider your graphics card. If you have a non-onboard graphics card, try replacing it with a known-good spare. Also consider overheating on the graphics card. Finally, if everything else is fine, then your motherboard is probably b0rked, sorry (rare, but I have seen it happen twice in 20 years). -- Andrew Oakley Johnathon: just realised I hadn't tried command line. have now and it's in progress :D thanks Andrew: All 3 fans work, BIOS is set to optimised defaults (as of this morning), and ALL the hardware is new (Christmas) bar 2 cd drives and a floppy. I've hunted around online a bit and lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. Graphics card is nVidia 8600GTS 1024mb memory, peak temperature around 50 degrees. Cheers === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 16:21 +0100, Lucy wrote: On 17/04/2008, Farran Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this just now but it wouldn't go through because the file was too large. Not been moderated yet: I'm back, that was a lot quicker than I expected. Okay, spec: 2GB OCZ SLI approved nVidia memory 1024mb SLI nVidia 8600GTS graphics card Intel core 2 duo q6600 G0 Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R motherboard That makes sense I suppose, so it's most likely the ram. If that ram pasted memtest then it should be fine, so it's most likely some other piece of hardware. Here's some of the syslog attached, as I have no idea what's necessary, so I'll give you the last bootup. Sorry it's so long, as I'm not sure when it crashed (again). Please don't send huge files to the list! Stick it up online somewhere, like pastebin.ubuntu.com and email the link instead. As for not having any reported updates, what happens when you try 'apt-get update' on the command line? sorry, didn't realise :/ here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7295/ === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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- Farran Lee wrote: sorry, didn't realise :/ here's the pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7295/ From the looks of that (and I've not had too much practise looking at logs) there's a lot of ata exceptions... which makes me think harddrive... might be worth stress testing your hard-drive... There are utilities you can use to do that on the Ultimate Boot CD (as well as scan for viruses, stress-test your cpu and ram...) thinking about it, might be worth stress-testing your cpu as well. (Be CAREFUL with stress testers.) You can get a copy of the UBCD here: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ HTH, Johnathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Andrew Oakley wrote: Finally, if everything else is fine, then your motherboard is probably b0rked, sorry (rare, but I have seen it happen twice in 20 years). I'm pretty sure the last motherboard I had died. It would take many attempts to boot up (it would spin up the CD drives over and over again before booting). Then recently it stopped booting altogether. I replaced it with a new motherboard, and now everything is fine. Tom -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Farran Lee wrote: lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. Update the motherboard BIOS, and if it still won't play, swap it out for a spare motherboard and see if that fixes it. Of course, I'm saying this as someone aged 37 with a shed full of obsolete PC spares I can delve through; the only worry being whether the mice have eaten/pooed-on anything important (clue: never keep chicken food and electronics in the same shed). If you're 15 and have just bought your first... everything... then you're probably going to have to make friends with someone who can lend you a spare. By spare I mean they won't mind if you break it. Do NOT disassemble your best mate's very expensive, and only, PC and then discover that your PSU subtly fries every motherboard it comes into contact with. I recommend joining your local Linux User Group and finding someone with their own shed full of spares nearby! http://lug.org.uk -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:44 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: Farran Lee wrote: lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. Update the motherboard BIOS, and if it still won't play, swap it out for a spare motherboard and see if that fixes it. Of course, I'm saying this as someone aged 37 with a shed full of obsolete PC spares I can delve through; the only worry being whether the mice have eaten/pooed-on anything important (clue: never keep chicken food and electronics in the same shed). If you're 15 and have just bought your first... everything... then you're probably going to have to make friends with someone who can lend you a spare. By spare I mean they won't mind if you break it. Do NOT disassemble your best mate's very expensive, and only, PC and then discover that your PSU subtly fries every motherboard it comes into contact with. I recommend joining your local Linux User Group and finding someone with their own shed full of spares nearby! http://lug.org.uk -- Andrew Oakley okay, will do :D actually I don't have any friends... that have anywhere full of 'spare' m/bs. Weird really :/ I'll RMA it if they'll accept, and if that doesn't work, I'll get a new one. got a separate /home partition, so if anything goes wrong, I can safely (I hope) reinstall it :D === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Farran: been there, done that. =) When I was 15 I single-handedly fried three motherboards because I failed to notice the dark spot on the video card that had just toasted. I swapped the video card out to test (didn't have a spare video card, but had a few spare mobos with AGP slots in them around). (that probably reveals how old I am now heh.) Be careful when diagnosing/testing! XuanYou Tan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Farran Lee Sent: 17 April 2008 17:48 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo? On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:44 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: Farran Lee wrote: lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. Update the motherboard BIOS, and if it still won't play, swap it out for a spare motherboard and see if that fixes it. Of course, I'm saying this as someone aged 37 with a shed full of obsolete PC spares I can delve through; the only worry being whether the mice have eaten/pooed-on anything important (clue: never keep chicken food and electronics in the same shed). If you're 15 and have just bought your first... everything... then you're probably going to have to make friends with someone who can lend you a spare. By spare I mean they won't mind if you break it. Do NOT disassemble your best mate's very expensive, and only, PC and then discover that your PSU subtly fries every motherboard it comes into contact with. I recommend joining your local Linux User Group and finding someone with their own shed full of spares nearby! http://lug.org.uk -- Andrew Oakley okay, will do :D actually I don't have any friends... that have anywhere full of 'spare' m/bs. Weird really :/ I'll RMA it if they'll accept, and if that doesn't work, I'll get a new one. got a separate /home partition, so if anything goes wrong, I can safely (I hope) reinstall it :D === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 19:52 +0100, Tan, Xuan wrote: Farran: been there, done that. =) When I was 15 I single-handedly fried three motherboards because I failed to notice the dark spot on the video card that had just toasted. I swapped the video card out to test (didn't have a spare video card, but had a few spare mobos with AGP slots in them around). (that probably reveals how old I am now heh.) Be careful when diagnosing/testing! XuanYou Tan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Farran Lee Sent: 17 April 2008 17:48 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] possible to install ubuntu like gentoo? On Thu, 2008-04-17 at 17:44 +0100, Andrew Oakley wrote: Farran Lee wrote: lots of people have had problems with the same motherboard. I'd call that a fairly massive hint, and other than hard drive failure, I'd say we're coming to the end of the list of possibilties. Update the motherboard BIOS, and if it still won't play, swap it out for a spare motherboard and see if that fixes it. Of course, I'm saying this as someone aged 37 with a shed full of obsolete PC spares I can delve through; the only worry being whether the mice have eaten/pooed-on anything important (clue: never keep chicken food and electronics in the same shed). If you're 15 and have just bought your first... everything... then you're probably going to have to make friends with someone who can lend you a spare. By spare I mean they won't mind if you break it. Do NOT disassemble your best mate's very expensive, and only, PC and then discover that your PSU subtly fries every motherboard it comes into contact with. I recommend joining your local Linux User Group and finding someone with their own shed full of spares nearby! http://lug.org.uk -- Andrew Oakley okay, will do :D actually I don't have any friends... that have anywhere full of 'spare' m/bs. Weird really :/ I'll RMA it if they'll accept, and if that doesn't work, I'll get a new one. got a separate /home partition, so if anything goes wrong, I can safely (I hope) reinstall it :D === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P hehe I'll watch out for that then was that a challenge? I'm sure I could beat that if I tried hard enough :P === Farran Lee I'm only 15 :P -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
