[ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread michaelweaver
How do I get my wireless connection in Ubuntu?
Dad has been trying to set up my BT Home Hub wireless router in order to
get a wireless connection on my laptop but he reckons you need the disk
to install a wireless connection and the disk needs to be run on every
computer and he is getting annoyed with me for saying otherwise as he
thinks it is the only way to install wireless. He says the connection I
have on my desktop is wired so how will my laptop pick up the wireless?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Nik Butler
Ive a client who has this working fine in Ubuntu , just look on the back
of the BT Home hub and look for the WEP key which is listed you need to
put this into your network connection for Wireless under ubuntu


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:44:37 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do I get my wireless connection in Ubuntu?
 Dad has been trying to set up my BT Home Hub wireless router in order to
 get a wireless connection on my laptop but he reckons you need the disk
 to install a wireless connection and the disk needs to be run on every
 computer and he is getting annoyed with me for saying otherwise as he
 thinks it is the only way to install wireless. He says the connection I
 have on my desktop is wired so how will my laptop pick up the wireless?

Michael, 

A few things:

1) As far as I am aware, you only need to install the BT wireless stuff from 
the CD if you are running windows.
2) On the HomeHub there will be either a WEP or WPA key.  If you have network 
manager installed, right click, then configure a wireless network and choose 
either WEP or WPA depending on the HomeHub settings.
3) If you have a HomeHub, you do not need to go through the desktop to connect, 
the HomeHub acts as a router and access point, you connect to the desktop and 
the internet VIA the HomeHub, not the other way around.

If possible, could you confirm exactly which disk your dad is using to install 
the wireless connections?

Thanks,

Matt.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

Bah, beaten to it... :o(

M.

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:50:33 +0100, Nik Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ive a client who has this working fine in Ubuntu , just look on the back
 of the BT Home hub and look for the WEP key which is listed you need to
 put this into your network connection for Wireless under ubuntu
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread michaelweaver
I Think it will be the disk that comes with the Router. i have both a
desktop PC and a laptop, the desktop runs Windows on the Internal hard
drive but has Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive. The Desktop does not
have a network card in it.
I have a wireless card for my laptop which I used for connecting at
Voxbar in Huddersfield or Jardins in Birstall where I attend a couple of
LUGs but there seemed to be a problem connecting at Voxbar the last time
I tried and Lindsay thinks there might be a problem with my Ralink card
because she said it flashed one time she looked at it and at that time
she had to pull out the card as she though it wasn picking up any
Network. There seemed to be a problem with the card trying to find the
Network even though it had settings for it so I may have to get a new
card anyway although my sister says she has a USB device which can
recieve wireless that does the same job as my card.

On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:51 +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:44:37 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How do I get my wireless connection in Ubuntu?
  Dad has been trying to set up my BT Home Hub wireless router in order to
  get a wireless connection on my laptop but he reckons you need the disk
  to install a wireless connection and the disk needs to be run on every
  computer and he is getting annoyed with me for saying otherwise as he
  thinks it is the only way to install wireless. He says the connection I
  have on my desktop is wired so how will my laptop pick up the wireless?
 
 Michael, 
 
 A few things:
 
 1) As far as I am aware, you only need to install the BT wireless stuff from 
 the CD if you are running windows.
 2) On the HomeHub there will be either a WEP or WPA key.  If you have network 
 manager installed, right click, then configure a wireless network and choose 
 either WEP or WPA depending on the HomeHub settings.
 3) If you have a HomeHub, you do not need to go through the desktop to 
 connect, the HomeHub acts as a router and access point, you connect to the 
 desktop and the internet VIA the HomeHub, not the other way around.
 
 If possible, could you confirm exactly which disk your dad is using to 
 install the wireless connections?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Matt.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:16:03 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I Think it will be the disk that comes with the Router. i have both a
 desktop PC and a laptop, the desktop runs Windows on the Internal hard
 drive but has Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive. The Desktop does not
 have a network card in it.
 I have a wireless card for my laptop which I used for connecting at
 Voxbar in Huddersfield or Jardins in Birstall where I attend a couple of
 LUGs but there seemed to be a problem connecting at Voxbar the last time
 I tried and Lindsay thinks there might be a problem with my Ralink card
 because she said it flashed one time she looked at it and at that time
 she had to pull out the card as she though it wasn picking up any
 Network. There seemed to be a problem with the card trying to find the
 Network even though it had settings for it so I may have to get a new
 card anyway although my sister says she has a USB device which can
 recieve wireless that does the same job as my card.

If the CD is the one with the router, you don't need it to get this to work 
under Linux.

Matt.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Tony Travis
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:16:03 +0100, michaelweaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I Think it will be the disk that comes with the Router. i have both a
 desktop PC and a laptop, the desktop runs Windows on the Internal hard
 drive but has Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive. The Desktop does not
 have a network card in it.

Hello, Michael.

Matt is right, you don't need any disk or CD to use the BT Home-hub: 
It's a self-contained DHCP server running Linux-derived code in ROM.

All you need to do is switch it on and connect an ethernet cable to it 
or read the SSID and WEP key off the back for Wireless. The easiest 
thing to do if you have Windows on your laptop is connect from there to 
make sure your WiFi interface is working, then try setting it up from 
Ubuntu. I use Wifi Radar under Ubuntu to search for wireless networks.

You should check that you can connect your laptop to the router with a 
wired connection if you can't detect a wireless signal. Login to the 
router using a web browser, and check which devices it detects. This is 
all very simple to do from Windows without installing *any* software, 
and is described in the instruction leaflet. The BT Home-hub is a very 
well thought out router, and I'm quite impressed by its capabilities.

What you install from the BT CD's is a truly AWFUL customised version of 
Micro$oft Internet Explorer and BT's 'help' system. Neither of which you 
actually need to use the router.

I suggest that you first try connecting to the Home hub with a wired 
connection from Windows using a web browser, and explore it's 
capabilities. Then try setting Wireless up under Windows first because 
you might otherwise spend a long time trying to get it to work under 
Linux without knowing if you have a network hardware problem or not.

Best wishes,

Tony.

 I have a wireless card for my laptop which I used for connecting at
 Voxbar in Huddersfield or Jardins in Birstall where I attend a couple of
 LUGs but there seemed to be a problem connecting at Voxbar the last time
 I tried and Lindsay thinks there might be a problem with my Ralink card
 because she said it flashed one time she looked at it and at that time
 she had to pull out the card as she though it wasn picking up any
 Network. There seemed to be a problem with the card trying to find the
 Network even though it had settings for it so I may have to get a new
 card anyway although my sister says she has a USB device which can
 recieve wireless that does the same job as my card.
 
 If the CD is the one with the router, you don't need it to get this to work 
 under Linux.
 
 Matt.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread ged
Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT 
wireless routers.
Is it really wep ?
It is my understanding that wep is well and truly broken-about 53 
seconds to be precise, may be even quicker now.
I obtained the Bt 2091 off ebay for a friend and that had a little 
security code wrote on the back.
Is it not useless?
If so can it be changed at all?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:11 +0100, ged wrote:
 Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT 
 wireless routers.
 Is it really wep ?

The _default_ is.

If you visit http://bthomehub.home/ once setup you can change it to WAP.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread LeeUKHA


 On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:11 +0100, ged wrote:
   
 Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT 
 wireless routers.
 Is it really wep ?
 

 The _default_ is.

 If you visit http://bthomehub.home/ once setup you can change it to WPA.
As Alan said the default is WEP, but it does WPA just fine :)

As to the 2091 it's fine my mate runs one. By default its locked to BT, 
so if you leave BT its junk.
However, it's been, err, fixed. A quick Google will reveal the new 
firmware...

As for the other poster, the HomeHub is a horrible little box...
In itself a cracking idea, wireless router, VOIP, DECT, Fusion, all 
rolled into one...
And then completely ruined by BT rubbish firmware... reboots, lockups, 
you name it
and locked to BT like the 2091... there is firmware to unlock it, but 
then the VOIP disappears too...
All very annoying... esp. so as it runs Linux and BT haven't fully 
complied with the GPL to release all the source...





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] setting up bt home hub in ubuntu

2007-06-12 Thread ged byrom
LeeUKHA wrote:
   
 On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 19:11 +0100, ged wrote:
   
 
 Just a polite enquiry about the WEP key wrote on the back of these BT 
 wireless routers.
 Is it really wep ?
 
   
 The _default_ is.

 If you visit http://bthomehub.home/ once setup you can change it to WPA.
 
 As Alan said the default is WEP, but it does WPA just fine :)

 As to the 2091 it's fine my mate runs one. By default its locked to BT, 
 so if you leave BT its junk.
 However, it's been, err, fixed. A quick Google will reveal the new 
 firmware...

   
Thanks for the replies. The 2091 I got on ebay was already unlocked.

Thanks again
   Ged.

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