Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
< snip > > When you say it won't restart, are you getting any error messages? Does > the Windows XP logo come up at all? There is no logo appearance and the message basically is complaining about there being no boot disc available and asking me to find one and try again. > > Do you get a blue screen with something like "INACCESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE" > written on it. No, no dreaded blue screen. > > You might also want to try pressing the F8 key at boot up (or keep > pressing it) and if a boot menu appears, look for an option to start in > Safe Mode. I don't think we have got that far. > > What make is the PC? (or is it one you've put together yourself?) It is one that I bought from World of Computers, I specified what I wanted and they made it up for me. The problem seems to be because I do not know the difference between SATA and any other type of hdd. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
norman wrote: > < snip > >> This may help: >> Just in case anyone else has this problem and doesn't want to spend an hour >> figuring it out... > > Thank you very much indeed that is very comprehensive but what if I have > no floppy disc dive? Many machines these days do not have floppy drives. > Also, where do the files you mentioned as being in the root directory > come from? > > Norman > > When you say it won't restart, are you getting any error messages? Does the Windows XP logo come up at all? Do you get a blue screen with something like "INACCESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE" written on it. You might also want to try pressing the F8 key at boot up (or keep pressing it) and if a boot menu appears, look for an option to start in Safe Mode. What make is the PC? (or is it one you've put together yourself?) Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
norman wrote: Okay ill stop rambling... my suggestion is to use the Ubuntu live CD and partition your hard-drive accordingly, and format all the partitions. but don't install Ubuntu. I would also suggest making a 200MB /boot partition at the beginning of the HDD. Then install Windows, check that it works, then install Ubuntu. That sounds good but how do I arrange for the 200MB /boot partition? Gparted is as good a tool as any for partitioning. Booting into the live CD there should be a menu entry labelled 'Partition Editor' under System > Administration. With this you should be able to delete any partitions on the disk and create new ones as you see fit. I would also recommend having a partition for /boot, it keeps your Grub installation separate no matter which OS you reinstall. You only need to create the partitions, assigning them appropriate mount points (/, /boot etc) is not necessary as this is handled by the Ubuntu installer. To answer your MBR question, yes the Ubuntu installer will overwrite a Windows bootloader if present on the MBR. Tom -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
< snip > > > This may help: > Just in case anyone else has this problem and doesn't want to spend an hour > figuring it out... Thank you very much indeed that is very comprehensive but what if I have no floppy disc dive? Many machines these days do not have floppy drives. Also, where do the files you mentioned as being in the root directory come from? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
I mean the one that came with the pc that has the sata drive? If you don't you will need to download it. This may help: Just in case anyone else has this problem and doesn't want to spend an hour figuring it out... If you are loading Windows XP onto a computer with a serial ATA (SATA) hard drive, you will have to manually load the SATA drivers. Copy the drivers from motherboard support CD *\DriverDisk\SATA\*.* into root directory of floppy disk. (i.e. root directory of floppy disk should contain \pide and \sata folders, txtsetup.oem, etc. files.) Then, boot system by Windows XP installation CD, when the message "Press F6 if you need to install a third party SCSI or RAID driver" shows up, press "F6". Then, press "S" to specify additional device when next screen pops up. Put the driver floppy disk you made in and press enter to continue. If the floppy disk is made successfully, the installation program will ask for selecting driver. Please then select "VIA Serial ATA RAID Controller(Windows XP)".) After SATA driver loaded and Windows XP can recognize the SATA HDD, you can continue to install Windows XP as usual. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of norman Sent: 29 November 2007 14:42 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it > That is due to you not having the sata driver installed. > > Do you have the original xp disk that came with the pc? Of course. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
< snip > > What does happen with windows install is that they have included a an > ingenious function called "PullOutHAIR" which makes it so that the > install only works when a randomly generated number matches another. What a wonderful name for a problem causer, I'd better be careful, I am nearly bald now. > > Okay ill stop rambling... my suggestion is to use the Ubuntu live CD and > partition your hard-drive accordingly, and format all the partitions. > but don't install Ubuntu. I would also suggest making a 200MB /boot > partition at the beginning of the HDD. Then install Windows, check that > it works, then install Ubuntu. That sounds good but how do I arrange for the 200MB /boot partition? > > I have done this on quite a few occasions... normally (touch wood) it > works! I am almost prepared to try anything and I'll touch wood if it is necessary. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
> That is due to you not having the sata driver installed. > > Do you have the original xp disk that came with the pc? Of course. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
That is due to you not having the sata driver installed. Do you have the original xp disk that came with the pc? Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of norman Sent: 29 November 2007 13:39 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it > What I suggest is to install windows xp, wipe the hard drive( are you > installing to the satat drive? If so you need the driver for the sata > device.) and start all over again. After xp works setup the dual boot. I am sorry Daniel but I am not quite sure what you mean. Yes I am installing to the SATA drive on which I have Ubuntu installed. My idea is that the Windows installation process will remove Ubuntu when it formats the drive and then continue to install XP. After that I would hope to install Ubuntu and thus get a dual boot system. I fail to see what you mean by a driver for the SATA device. My problem is that the XP process starts as it should do but stops part the way through and will not restart. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 13:39 +, norman wrote: > > What I suggest is to install windows xp, wipe the hard drive( are you > > installing to the satat drive? If so you need the driver for the sata > > device.) and start all over again. After xp works setup the dual boot. > > I am sorry Daniel but I am not quite sure what you mean. Yes I am > installing to the SATA drive on which I have Ubuntu installed. My idea > is that the Windows installation process will remove Ubuntu when it > formats the drive and then continue to install XP. After that I would > hope to install Ubuntu and thus get a dual boot system. I fail to see > what you mean by a driver for the SATA device. > > My problem is that the XP process starts as it should do but stops part > the way through and will not restart. > > Norman > > You shouldn't need a SATA driver (but sometimes you do) when you install windows. If you are using something like Silicon Image as a SATA RAID controller (even if you are not using RAID) then you will need a driver. In theory however, Windows wouldn't even detect the HDD in the first place when installing so i wouldn't worry about that. What does happen with windows install is that they have included a an ingenious function called "PullOutHAIR" which makes it so that the install only works when a randomly generated number matches another. Okay ill stop rambling... my suggestion is to use the Ubuntu live CD and partition your hard-drive accordingly, and format all the partitions. but don't install Ubuntu. I would also suggest making a 200MB /boot partition at the beginning of the HDD. Then install Windows, check that it works, then install Ubuntu. I have done this on quite a few occasions... normally (touch wood) it works! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
> What I suggest is to install windows xp, wipe the hard drive( are you > installing to the satat drive? If so you need the driver for the sata > device.) and start all over again. After xp works setup the dual boot. I am sorry Daniel but I am not quite sure what you mean. Yes I am installing to the SATA drive on which I have Ubuntu installed. My idea is that the Windows installation process will remove Ubuntu when it formats the drive and then continue to install XP. After that I would hope to install Ubuntu and thus get a dual boot system. I fail to see what you mean by a driver for the SATA device. My problem is that the XP process starts as it should do but stops part the way through and will not restart. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
What I suggest is to install windows xp, wipe the hard drive( are you installing to the satat drive? If so you need the driver for the sata device.) and start all over again. After xp works setup the dual boot. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of norman Sent: 29 November 2007 13:04 To: ubuntu-uk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] would you believe it Having decided to stop my attempts to have a 2 hdd setup and decided on dual booting instead I thought this would be dead easy. But is it ? Open the CD drive, pop in my Widows XP disc and start the setup procedure. Everything goes OK until we get to the bit that requires me to remove the disc from the 'a' drive. I take out the CD, system closes down and will not restart. Could it be that MBR causing problems again? I have now reinstalled Ubuntu and still do not have a dual boot setup. I shall be busy with Google this afternoon. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] would you believe it
Having decided to stop my attempts to have a 2 hdd setup and decided on dual booting instead I thought this would be dead easy. But is it ? Open the CD drive, pop in my Widows XP disc and start the setup procedure. Everything goes OK until we get to the bit that requires me to remove the disc from the 'a' drive. I take out the CD, system closes down and will not restart. Could it be that MBR causing problems again? I have now reinstalled Ubuntu and still do not have a dual boot setup. I shall be busy with Google this afternoon. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
