Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-25 Thread James Hooker
The Acer Aspire One looks pretty cool - Dabs says 1-2 Weeks away, very
good value for money in the netbook dept!

http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=55BHInMerch=1

Pete - Thanks for the good review of my LRL talk on your blog!:)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-24 Thread Matt Jones
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Compaq/HP seem pretty good - the widescreen HP Pavilion (15.4, 120GB
 h/drive, Vista Home Premium, 2GB memory etc.) that Tesco sells at
 about £370 seems to work well enough, including wi-fi.

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Not particularly portable though
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-24 Thread Matt Jones
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Matt Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Not particularly portable though

 I guess that could be argued, but it doesn't take that much more to
 lug around a 15.4 widescreen than a 14 does it?  And the size of the
 screen definitely helps productivity as you can get a decent
 resolution and multiple windows visible simultaneously.

 Guess it depends what he wants to do.

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13/14/15 inch laptops generally use the same resolution, 1280*800
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread James Grabham
I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything
else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350)

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with
 Vista  Ubuntu.  I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but
 I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard
 drive and a dual core CPU.

 I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop?

 I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13
 screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu.

 Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1
 screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350.

 The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to
 £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12
 to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc.

 Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would
 come close?

 I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300
 without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if
 it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without
 OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately).

 Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it
  at the sites I'm covering.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Jones
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with
 Vista  Ubuntu.  I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but
 I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard
 drive and a dual core CPU.

 I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop?

 I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13
 screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu.

 Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1
 screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350.

 The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to
 £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12
 to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc.

 Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would
 come close?

 I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300
 without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if
 it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without
 OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately).

 Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it
  at the sites I'm covering.

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One of the dell 1525's? Nice machines and available with Ubuntu, although it
probably is a bit big. The other option is the vostro 1310 from the business
range, which is one I am thinking of getting, as my laptop is not really a
laptop. Pentium 4's are not good for battery life!

It has a 13 widescreen, and starts from about £230 exvat. Ring Dell to
haggle on the upgrades!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Rob Beard
James Grabham wrote:
 I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything 
 else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350)


What wireless card do you have in there?

They're MiniPCI cards aren't they?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread alan c
Rob Beard wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with 
 Vista  Ubuntu.  I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but 
 I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard 
 drive and a dual core CPU.
 
 I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop?
 
 I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13 
 screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu.
 
 Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1 
 screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350.
 
 The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to 
 £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12 
 to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc.
 
 Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would 
 come close?
 
 I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300 
 without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if 
 it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without 
 OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately).
 
 Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it 
   at the sites I'm covering.

If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody 
who is near to them) you could consider novatech
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/

The big reason to keep them in mind generally is that they are unusual 
in pricing their PCs both with and without Windows. I bought my recent 
desktop from them, without OS, at least to support them.

In other ways they are a conventional Windows house, although one low 
end laptop was explicitly advertised  in their newslettera few months 
ago as 'Runs Ubuntu', and it caused a minor stir in news items.

Their few retail outlets are peaceful, organised places, not crowded 
because their main business is online, and it should be easy to get 
permission to run live CDs at least, for systematic tests there. It 
would also have the advantage that the staff would see ubuntu, as a 
potential sale, raise profile, etc etc etc.

just a thought.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread James Grabham
Broadcom BCM4310 USB Controller

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Grabham wrote:
  I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything
  else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350)
 

 What wireless card do you have in there?

 They're MiniPCI cards aren't they?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Jones
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Grabham wrote:
  I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything
  else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350)
 

 What wireless card do you have in there?

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The spec sheet for the 1310 lists both dell(Broadcom) and intel, but I could
not pick the Intel one on the online configuration tool. It's probably mini
PCI, although they may have moved on to mini PCI-e.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Jones
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Matt Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Grabham wrote:
  I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything
  else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350)
 

 What wireless card do you have in there?

 They're MiniPCI cards aren't they?

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 The spec sheet for the 1310 lists both dell(Broadcom) and intel, but I
 could not pick the Intel one on the online configuration tool. It's probably
 mini PCI, although they may have moved on to mini PCI-e.

 Mj

Just poking around, the Vostro 1310 has a Mini PCI slot for the wireless.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Rob Beard
alan c wrote:

 If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody 
 who is near to them) you could consider novatech
 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/

Just checked, they're no where near me.  I haven't got a problem with 
ordering online, the thing I'm worried about is the Linux support out of 
the box.  It's a shame the basic laptops don't have Intel or ATI video 
cards.

Just had a look at the Dell Ubuntu laptops, they're not too badly 
priced.  It seems that the Vosto 1310 either have the option of Celerons 
or Core 2 Duo's, what I'm after is something like a Pentium Dual Core.

I'll keep looking anyway.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Matt Jones
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rob Beard wrote:
  Hi folks,
 
  I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with
  Vista  Ubuntu.  I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but
  I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard
  drive and a dual core CPU.
 
  I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop?
 
  I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13
  screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu.
 
  Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1
  screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350.
 
  The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to
  £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12
  to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc.
 
  Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would
  come close?
 
  I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300
  without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if
  it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without
  OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately).
 
  Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it
at the sites I'm covering.

 If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody
 who is near to them) you could consider novatech
 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/

 The big reason to keep them in mind generally is that they are unusual
 in pricing their PCs both with and without Windows. I bought my recent
 desktop from them, without OS, at least to support them.

 In other ways they are a conventional Windows house, although one low
 end laptop was explicitly advertised  in their newslettera few months
 ago as 'Runs Ubuntu', and it caused a minor stir in news items.

 Their few retail outlets are peaceful, organised places, not crowded
 because their main business is online, and it should be easy to get
 permission to run live CDs at least, for systematic tests there. It
 would also have the advantage that the staff would see ubuntu, as a
 potential sale, raise profile, etc etc etc.

 just a thought.

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The cheapest 12 is £468, only the 15.4 ones are within his budget. I have
a novatech laptop, the enormous P4 thing mentioned earlier. It is a rebadged
Gericom, the same as many other small resellers sell. The build is Ok, but
getting parts is a nightmare, probably due to them being sold under many
different names.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Kris Douglas
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 alan c wrote:

 If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody
 who is near to them) you could consider novatech
 http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/

 Just checked, they're no where near me.  I haven't got a problem with
 ordering online, the thing I'm worried about is the Linux support out of
 the box.  It's a shame the basic laptops don't have Intel or ATI video
 cards.

 The NVidia cards are fantastic on ubuntu, the VIA's work ok, as do intel, ATI 
 was a freaking nightmare for me, NVidia worked out of the box, perfect.

Errm, try to go for the synaptics touchpads, stick with intel wifi, if
you can, and you shouldn't have too much issue.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400

2008-07-23 Thread Rob Beard
Kris Douglas wrote:

 Errm, try to go for the synaptics touchpads, stick with intel wifi, if
 you can, and you shouldn't have too much issue.
 
 (sorry, email sent by accident without finishing)

Ahh I see.

The Novatech laptops with Intel video cards are a tad more.  I'll 
certainly think about recommending them for one of my clients though as 
they look pretty good.

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