Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400
The Acer Aspire One looks pretty cool - Dabs says 1-2 Weeks away, very good value for money in the netbook dept! http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx?Quicklinx=55BHInMerch=1 Pete - Thanks for the good review of my LRL talk on your blog!:) On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:04 +0100, Pete Stean wrote: Advent 4211 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compaq/HP seem pretty good - the widescreen HP Pavilion (15.4, 120GB h/drive, Vista Home Premium, 2GB memory etc.) that Tesco sells at about £370 seems to work well enough, including wi-fi. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Not particularly portable though -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Sean Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Matt Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not particularly portable though I guess that could be argued, but it doesn't take that much more to lug around a 15.4 widescreen than a 14 does it? And the size of the screen definitely helps productivity as you can get a decent resolution and multiple windows visible simultaneously. Guess it depends what he wants to do. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ 13/14/15 inch laptops generally use the same resolution, 1280*800 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400
I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350) On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with Vista Ubuntu. I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard drive and a dual core CPU. I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop? I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13 screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu. Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1 screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350. The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12 to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc. Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would come close? I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300 without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately). Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it at the sites I'm covering. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with Vista Ubuntu. I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard drive and a dual core CPU. I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop? I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13 screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu. Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1 screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350. The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12 to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc. Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would come close? I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300 without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately). Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it at the sites I'm covering. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ One of the dell 1525's? Nice machines and available with Ubuntu, although it probably is a bit big. The other option is the vostro 1310 from the business range, which is one I am thinking of getting, as my laptop is not really a laptop. Pentium 4's are not good for battery life! It has a 13 widescreen, and starts from about £230 exvat. Ring Dell to haggle on the upgrades! Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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James Grabham wrote: I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350) What wireless card do you have in there? They're MiniPCI cards aren't they? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400
Rob Beard wrote: Hi folks, I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with Vista Ubuntu. I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard drive and a dual core CPU. I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop? I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13 screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu. Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1 screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350. The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12 to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc. Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would come close? I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300 without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately). Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it at the sites I'm covering. If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody who is near to them) you could consider novatech http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/ The big reason to keep them in mind generally is that they are unusual in pricing their PCs both with and without Windows. I bought my recent desktop from them, without OS, at least to support them. In other ways they are a conventional Windows house, although one low end laptop was explicitly advertised in their newslettera few months ago as 'Runs Ubuntu', and it caused a minor stir in news items. Their few retail outlets are peaceful, organised places, not crowded because their main business is online, and it should be easy to get permission to run live CDs at least, for systematic tests there. It would also have the advantage that the staff would see ubuntu, as a potential sale, raise profile, etc etc etc. just a thought. Good luck -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Broadcom BCM4310 USB Controller On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Grabham wrote: I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350) What wireless card do you have in there? They're MiniPCI cards aren't they? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu compatible laptops for under £400
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Grabham wrote: I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350) What wireless card do you have in there? They're MiniPCI cards aren't they? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ The spec sheet for the 1310 lists both dell(Broadcom) and intel, but I could not pick the Intel one on the online configuration tool. It's probably mini PCI, although they may have moved on to mini PCI-e. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Matt Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Grabham wrote: I still love my Dell Vostro - Wireless needs NDISWRAPPER, but everything else works fine :) (1.8 C2D 2GB 160GB 15.4 cost me £350) What wireless card do you have in there? They're MiniPCI cards aren't they? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ The spec sheet for the 1310 lists both dell(Broadcom) and intel, but I could not pick the Intel one on the online configuration tool. It's probably mini PCI, although they may have moved on to mini PCI-e. Mj Just poking around, the Vostro 1310 has a Mini PCI slot for the wireless. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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alan c wrote: If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody who is near to them) you could consider novatech http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/ Just checked, they're no where near me. I haven't got a problem with ordering online, the thing I'm worried about is the Linux support out of the box. It's a shame the basic laptops don't have Intel or ATI video cards. Just had a look at the Dell Ubuntu laptops, they're not too badly priced. It seems that the Vosto 1310 either have the option of Celerons or Core 2 Duo's, what I'm after is something like a Pentium Dual Core. I'll keep looking anyway. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:02 PM, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Beard wrote: Hi folks, I'm on the lookout for a laptop for work which I can dual boot with Vista Ubuntu. I'm not fussed if it's an AMD or Intel based laptop but I would like something with at least 1GB memory, an 80GB or higher hard drive and a dual core CPU. I just wondered if anyone could suggest such a laptop? I was looking at the eSystem notebook at £279 from PC World with the 13 screen but unfortunately it's not very well supported on Ubuntu. Other options I was thinking of was the Acer Aspire 2920 with a 12.1 screen or some of the HP Turion based notebooks at around £350. The most I can really afford is about £375 although I could stretch to £400 if it's got a smaller screen (I'd really like something with a 12 to 14 screen so it's easier to lug around) or a quicker CPU etc. Just wondered if anyone knew of anything around at the moment that would come close? I did have a look at Novatech's site, they seem pretty good at £300 without an OS but I wasn't sure about the on board SIS video card and if it is well supported or not on Linux? (in a case of a notebook without OS, I could get an OEM copy of Vista separately). Unfortunately Vista is going to be a requirement as I have to support it at the sites I'm covering. If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody who is near to them) you could consider novatech http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/ The big reason to keep them in mind generally is that they are unusual in pricing their PCs both with and without Windows. I bought my recent desktop from them, without OS, at least to support them. In other ways they are a conventional Windows house, although one low end laptop was explicitly advertised in their newslettera few months ago as 'Runs Ubuntu', and it caused a minor stir in news items. Their few retail outlets are peaceful, organised places, not crowded because their main business is online, and it should be easy to get permission to run live CDs at least, for systematic tests there. It would also have the advantage that the staff would see ubuntu, as a potential sale, raise profile, etc etc etc. just a thought. Good luck -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ The cheapest 12 is £468, only the 15.4 ones are within his budget. I have a novatech laptop, the enormous P4 thing mentioned earlier. It is a rebadged Gericom, the same as many other small resellers sell. The build is Ok, but getting parts is a nightmare, probably due to them being sold under many different names. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alan c wrote: If you have one of their retail outlets near to you (or know somebody who is near to them) you could consider novatech http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/ Just checked, they're no where near me. I haven't got a problem with ordering online, the thing I'm worried about is the Linux support out of the box. It's a shame the basic laptops don't have Intel or ATI video cards. The NVidia cards are fantastic on ubuntu, the VIA's work ok, as do intel, ATI was a freaking nightmare for me, NVidia worked out of the box, perfect. Errm, try to go for the synaptics touchpads, stick with intel wifi, if you can, and you shouldn't have too much issue. (sorry, email sent by accident without finishing) -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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Kris Douglas wrote: Errm, try to go for the synaptics touchpads, stick with intel wifi, if you can, and you shouldn't have too much issue. (sorry, email sent by accident without finishing) Ahh I see. The Novatech laptops with Intel video cards are a tad more. I'll certainly think about recommending them for one of my clients though as they look pretty good. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/