Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compositing performance hit

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Oakley

On 26/03/2008, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Quick question. Does running Ubuntu with compositing enabled effect
   the overall performance of the system?
...
   Nvidia Geforce 440

Compositing will not noticeably affect system performance if you have a 
separate hardware 3D graphics card that supports full transparency in 
hardware. I think that any card that is compatible with DirectX7 [1] or 
above will support full transparency. All PCI, AGP and PCI-E Nvidia and 
ATI cards since around 1999 should support full transparency.

Your Nvidia Geforce 440 does support full transparency in separate 
hardware and will run compositing very fast. I actually have the very 
same card on my Ubuntu Dapper machine at home, running Beryl, the 
precursor to Compiz Fusion that is used in Gutsy/Hardy.

If you are using Compiz prior to Hardy Beta (eg. in Gutsy), you may need 
to tweak your xorg.conf video driver settings to prevent full-screen 
video running slowly/jerkily. Various solutions on ubuntuforums.org .

Integrated 3D graphics chips, that are less than three years old, that 
use a mixture of hardware and software, and which are soldered to your 
motherboard, should be fine for most desktop use, but may slow 
considerably when you run full-screen video or full-screen 3D games, 
depending which version of which drivers you are using. For instance, 
until a recent driver update, my laptop with Intel X3100 i965 graphics 
ran full-screen video very jerkily and full-screen 3D games very slowly. 
The solution is to turn off Compiz before running full-screen video or 
3D games; I did this by creating a separate video/gaming desktop 
account. Since the recent Intel driver update, though, full screen video 
works fine with compositing turned on in Hardy Beta.

Integrated graphics chips which are older than 3 years, which use more 
software than hardware, will definitely see a slowdown and possibly, due 
to lack of transparency support, won't work at all. Similarly, any 
AGP/PCI 3D card prior to DirectX7 will probably, due to lack of 
transparency support, not work at all.

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[1] DirectX is a Microsoft 3D driver and has little to do with 
Linux/Ubuntu. I use this only as a useful measure of ascertaining 
hardware 3D features, when reading from the side of a box or from a list 
of features on a website, prior to purchase.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compositing performance hit

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Rowson
As always, in depth and quality reponses from you all.

Thank you for taking the time chaps, I do appreciate it.

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compositing performance hit

2008-03-26 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Strange thing it does show up invalid. Ohh well I'll try next time ;)

That's FireGPG for you =( I'll use evolution next time.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
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  You shouldn't notice the difference =D
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  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Chris Rowson 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hello people,
  
   Quick question. Does running Ubuntu with compositing enabled effect
   the overall performance of the system?
  
   I'm running the following spec laptop with Hardy:
  
   Pentium IV mobile 2.0Ghz
   512 MB RAM
   Nvidia Geforce 440
  
   Desktop effects are enabled by default as soon as I enable the nvidia
 driver.
  
   Just wondered if the system was powerful enough?
  
   Cheers
  
   Chris
  
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 I could barely work that out with those bloody PGP things... but yes,
 there should be very little performance hit. If you are running
 anything very intensive, I would turn them off... otherwise you should
 be perfectly fine.

 By the way, the Start+Tab effect looks cool :)

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