Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dapper and Cups in a school environment
firstly, let me say how great it is that your school is using open source. that means that money not spent on commericial software, is money saved by the school and can be spent for other things. from what I understand here, you want to use cups for some printers. your setup is very well done (thin clients, great stuff). however, I did find one limitation on ubuntu ... using cups. Ubuntu expects you to use their panel interface for cups, not http://localhost:661/. I found this out the hard way, if I had known it would have only taken me five minutes to set up the printing on my ubuntu box! maybe you might want to consider using the ubuntu server version .. maybe then you could use cups itself through its webinterface? just my guess ... anyway, let me know the solution ! tim Alistair Crust wrote: Hi, To fill you in I am from Skegness Grammar School an 800+ pupil school in Lincolnshire. We run Ubuntu Dapper as a thin client environment right throughout the school and use it to teach ALL curriculum lessons. Just recently we have had a few problems printing from the four LTSP servers we have. (we don't use edubuntu due to Local Disk Access, although in a few months we will be trying edgy on a test server. Anyway I digress). I think the reason is that we have the four app servers accessing the jetdirect enables printers directly insteed of on server managing all. We also would like to allow access to sertain printers from all machines but only from staff accounts, thus: My idea was to install a Dapper server and on it cupsys et al. Then administer via web (from a set number of machines, e.i. My office, staff room, anywhere the kids don't have access). Problem is that the web interface is disabled by default.. not a problem I hear you cry. Wrong! after enabling the / and /admin sections via the cupsd.conf Allow directive the web site does indeed become accessible, problem is that when trying to add a printer the web interface is asking for an upgrade because I am not accessing it from https://. I know this is some kind of licence issue using ssl, but I don't want to use https. and even when I install openssl the thing still doesn't work. I have googled and there has been a few posts relating to my problem here but none that actually fix the problem, after trying the suggestions the trail just goes cold. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dapper and Cups in a school environment
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 09:04 +, tim matthews wrote: firstly, let me say how great it is that your school is using open source. that means that money not spent on commericial software, is money saved by the school and can be spent for other things. There should be something going on fridge soon. I had a guy from canonical email me to take our case study I just need to get his some pictures of our labs, and happy smiley people using it productively. All the kids are happy with it, esp' at lunch when they swamp the labs to play flash games online! from what I understand here, you want to use cups for some printers. your setup is very well done (thin clients, great stuff). however, I did find one limitation on ubuntu ... using cups. I'm finding that out too.. If ubuntu wants to get into the enterprise more, this will have to be addressed at some stage. Do I hear someone say Put an option on the server install cd to install a pre-configured cups server.. email server, headless ltsp server etal I would be more than willing to test stuff out in this respect. Ubuntu expects you to use their panel interface for cups, not http://localhost:661/. I found this out the hard way, if I had known it would have only taken me five minutes to set up the printing on my ubuntu box! maybe you might want to consider using the ubuntu server version .. maybe then you could use cups itself through its webinterface? just my guess ... anyway, let me know the solution ! I am in-fact using the dapper server, then installing cupsys cupsys-bsd fommatic-filters-ppds etc etc Adding Allow my.net.work.ip to / and /admin in cupsd.conf has enabled the web interface. Up to this point is fantastic. Adding the printer is where I have problems. As soon as I finish the setup and click add printer the page asks me to upgrade or access the /admin via https. If this https has been complied out by the package maintainers upstream then why is it still asking me for https when adding a printer? It just doesn't make sense to me. -- Kind regards Alistair Crust Systems Administrator Skegness Grammar School Vernon Road Skegness PE25 2QS TEL: 01754 61 (ext'852) FAX: 01754 896875 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dapper and Cups in a school environment
On 11/6/06, Alistair Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding the printer is where I have problems. As soon as I finish the setup and click add printer the page asks me to upgrade or access the /admin via https. If this https has been complied out by the package maintainers upstream then why is it still asking me for https when adding a printer? It just doesn't make sense to me. I know approximately zero about cups, but I do know there aren't any licensing issues with https and that it's quite easy to set up an SSL-enabled server. I use my own, with a MoinMoin wiki that I access while at the office or on the road. There are a load of SSL tutorials on the Web. This was on the first page on a google search: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/349 Apologies if I'm misunderstanding the question... -Eamonn -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
