Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...

2007-05-26 Thread Mark Jose
On Saturday 26 May 2007 11:31, LeeUKHA wrote:
 I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is

 It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install
 Fiesty on it yourself...

 Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69
 more expensive...  I really despair sometimes

 Lee
 *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated
 graphics...

The price is actually less than that for the Vista version - 
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070525-windows-tax-is-50-according-to-dell-linux-pc-pricing.html

Seems several reports of the price being more with Linux were incorrect.

Mark - new to list

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...

2007-05-26 Thread Matthew Larsen
At least its a start!

On 26/05/07, LeeUKHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is

 It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install
 Fiesty on it yourself...

 Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69
 more expensive...  I really despair sometimes

 Lee
 *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated
 graphics...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...

2007-05-26 Thread LeeUKHA



 I just compared a Vista vs. Fiesty Inspiron laptop and the answer is

 It's (like for like*) $29 cheaper to buy a Vista laptop and install
 Fiesty on it yourself...

 Jeez... only Dell could replace a $40 OS with a free one and make it $69
 more expensive...  I really despair sometimes

 Lee
 *The headline Ubuntu laptop comes with half the memory and integrated
 graphics...
 

 The price is actually less than that for the Vista version - 
 http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070525-windows-tax-is-50-according-to-dell-linux-pc-pricing.html

 Seems several reports of the price being more with Linux were incorrect.

 Mark - new to list
   
I went direct to Dell's website, and compared an Inspiron E1505N laptop 
(the Linux version) with an MS E1505.

At first glance, the Linux version is cheaper, until you realise, it's 
only got half the RAM and onboard graphics. Add those to the list and 
it's $29 more expensive than the MS version...

So I'm not sure where Dell spokeswoman Anne Camden gets the $50 
cheaper from...

Lee :(

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...

2007-05-26 Thread Andy
On 26/05/07, LeeUKHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I went direct to Dell's website, and compared an Inspiron E1505N laptop
 (the Linux version) with an MS E1505.

 At first glance, the Linux version is cheaper, until you realise, it's
 only got half the RAM and onboard graphics. Add those to the list and
 it's $29 more expensive than the MS version...


I thought I would take a look myself.

And the first problem I hit?
Where is the Ubuntu option?
I clicked laptops and only got Windows. Had to go back to front page
and reload till it came up with the Ubuntu banner, this is NOT a good
start!

Identical Processors,
OS: Windows Vista Home Basic, Ubuntu (no support option).
Identical LCDs
Memory: Windows was 1GB, Ubuntu 512MB, upgraded to 1GB for $50
Identical hard drives
Identical optical drives
Graphics: Can't match no options are the same for both
The Windows ATI card may be on special offer so might be artificially
lower price
Could upgrade to nvidia for $79 (option not taken).
(skipping Windows only options: sound, mobile broadband and printers)
Identical batteries
Wireless cards, upgrading windows wireless card to match Ubuntu's at a
cost of $29

Software for windows box set to none for all options.

Final prices:

Windows: $728
Ubuntu:  $649

Inaccuracies:
Would have reduced cost of Windows box if I hadn't upgrade the wifi
card, not much functionality out of that upgrade anyway ($29)
Are the Graphics equivalent? Should I have upped the Ubuntu graphics ($79)

with the increased graphics it would have cost:
Windows: $728
Ubuntu: $728
(hmm identical price)

If I hadn't bothered pointlessly upgrading the Windows WiFi then the
Windows machine would have been $29 cheaper than Ubuntu.

So it all hinges on what you think is comparable?

Of course i there was an Ubuntu option under the OS components it
would be much easier to see what Windows was costing, and easier to
find Ubuntu!

Andy

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dell Ubuntu pricing revealed...

2007-05-26 Thread Josh Blacker

Remember that there's no costs involved in maintaining an Ubuntu machine -
no AV software to pay for, no copy of MS Office to buy, and support is free
and very good online (so long as your problem doesn't preclude internet
access!), so even though you may come up with indentical prices at point of
sale, there will be additional, hidden costs with a Windows machine to get,
for example, the same security as Ubuntu.

On 5/26/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 26/05/07, LeeUKHA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I went direct to Dell's website, and compared an Inspiron E1505N laptop
 (the Linux version) with an MS E1505.

 At first glance, the Linux version is cheaper, until you realise, it's
 only got half the RAM and onboard graphics. Add those to the list and
 it's $29 more expensive than the MS version...


I thought I would take a look myself.

And the first problem I hit?
Where is the Ubuntu option?
I clicked laptops and only got Windows. Had to go back to front page
and reload till it came up with the Ubuntu banner, this is NOT a good
start!

Identical Processors,
OS: Windows Vista Home Basic, Ubuntu (no support option).
Identical LCDs
Memory: Windows was 1GB, Ubuntu 512MB, upgraded to 1GB for $50
Identical hard drives
Identical optical drives
Graphics: Can't match no options are the same for both
The Windows ATI card may be on special offer so might be artificially
lower price
Could upgrade to nvidia for $79 (option not taken).
(skipping Windows only options: sound, mobile broadband and printers)
Identical batteries
Wireless cards, upgrading windows wireless card to match Ubuntu's at a
cost of $29

Software for windows box set to none for all options.

Final prices:

Windows: $728
Ubuntu:  $649

Inaccuracies:
Would have reduced cost of Windows box if I hadn't upgrade the wifi
card, not much functionality out of that upgrade anyway ($29)
Are the Graphics equivalent? Should I have upped the Ubuntu graphics ($79)




with the increased graphics it would have cost:

Windows: $728
Ubuntu: $728
(hmm identical price)

If I hadn't bothered pointlessly upgrading the Windows WiFi then the
Windows machine would have been $29 cheaper than Ubuntu.

So it all hinges on what you think is comparable?

Of course i there was an Ubuntu option under the OS components it
would be much easier to see what Windows was costing, and easier to
find Ubuntu!

Andy

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