Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-09 Thread LeeGroups


Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 July 2009 23:10:51 LeeGroups wrote:
> d.
>   
>>> I think I will have to spend a little more and get a bigger battery, very
>>> tempted to go for
>>> http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY26TMG1-BK
>>>   
>> That's expensive, same thing on ebay for less than £9...
>> 
>
> Is it?  The Seidio battery has rave reviews and I've seen much criticism of 
> cheaper offerings.  The 2300 mAh batteries don't seem to have the oomph that 
> their specs would suggest.  Would you 'trust' a cheap 2850 mAh battery in 
> your phone.
>
> The Seidio battery is expensive, and with shipping, a third more so again, 
> but 
> I do think it would complete my G1 nicely.  
A third more? How did you calculate that? The Seidio battery plus 
shipping is $80, or about £45.
The one off ebay is £9 delivered. I see your point about cheap 
batteries, but a good friend of mine has been running an ebay special 
for two months and it's been fine. Run time has easily doubled...



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-08 Thread Colin Murphy
On Tuesday 07 July 2009 23:10:51 LeeGroups wrote:
d.
> >
> > I think I will have to spend a little more and get a bigger battery, very
> > tempted to go for
> > http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY26TMG1-BK
>
> That's expensive, same thing on ebay for less than £9...

Is it?  The Seidio battery has rave reviews and I've seen much criticism of 
cheaper offerings.  The 2300 mAh batteries don't seem to have the oomph that 
their specs would suggest.  Would you 'trust' a cheap 2850 mAh battery in 
your phone.

The Seidio battery is expensive, and with shipping, a third more so again, but 
I do think it would complete my G1 nicely.  

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-07 Thread LeeGroups

>> But how much did you pay for the G1?
>> 
>
> £180 via an Ebay auction, plus another £10 to get it unlocked.
>
> I think I will have to spend a little more and get a bigger battery, very 
> tempted to go for 
> http://www.seidioonline.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BACY26TMG1-BK
That's expensive, same thing on ebay for less than £9...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-07 Thread LeeGroups

>>  it's a piece of cake, if a little scary in places... Let's you
>> use newer versions of Android month before they are generally available.
>> I was running the JF version which include most of the cupcake updates
>> back in Feb, with all the multi-touch and auto-rotation stuff all working!
>> 
>
> Have you been tempted to go one stage further and install something other 
> than 
> Android?  If you have, what advantages are there?
No, not yet. I need something that's stable, I do actually use it as phone!
I can't see any advantages of other builds, apart from a) because you 
can (though I have to admit that's a pretty strong reason in my book) 
and b) they look very pretty...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-06 Thread Ronnie Tucker
I paid about £180 for it on eBay.

LeeGroups wrote:
> Ronnie Tucker wrote:
>   
>> LeeGroups wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Colin Murphy wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
   
 
   
 
> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
> 
>   
> 
>   
 Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have 
 PAC 
 code in hand and consider myself between contracts.

 Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim 
 only) 
 and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do 
 seem 
 the best.

 I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for 
 voice 
 that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 
 3Gb 
 or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
 usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.

 I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and 
 move 
 to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
 bleeding edge for this?

 Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really 
 was 
 meant to go to Javad directly.
 
   
 
>>> Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting 
>>> to Google 24/7.
>>> You can't get the tariff  without buying a G1.
>>> I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much 
>>> exactly but a lot...
>>> No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream 
>>> music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery!
>>>
>>> The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I 
>>> think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the 
>>> phone.
>>> I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
>> What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3 
>> SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll 
>> work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use 
>> £5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on. I hardly 
>> use mine for calls (ironic for a mobile phone) so I put about £10 in it 
>> every few months.  :D
>>
>> The G1 is easily the best phone I've ever had and I wouldn't part with it.
>> 
> But how much did you pay for the G1 can I ask?
>
>   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-06 Thread LeeGroups


Ronnie Tucker wrote:
> LeeGroups wrote:
>   
>> Colin Murphy wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
>>>   
>>> 
>>>   
 Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
 data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
 Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
 
   
 
>>> Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have 
>>> PAC 
>>> code in hand and consider myself between contracts.
>>>
>>> Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim 
>>> only) 
>>> and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do 
>>> seem 
>>> the best.
>>>
>>> I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for 
>>> voice 
>>> that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb 
>>> or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
>>> usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.
>>>
>>> I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and 
>>> move 
>>> to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
>>> bleeding edge for this?
>>>
>>> Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was 
>>> meant to go to Javad directly.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting 
>> to Google 24/7.
>> You can't get the tariff  without buying a G1.
>> I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much 
>> exactly but a lot...
>> No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream 
>> music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery!
>>
>> The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I 
>> think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the 
>> phone.
>> I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1.
>>
>> Lee
>>   
>> 
> What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3 
> SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll 
> work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use 
> £5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on. I hardly 
> use mine for calls (ironic for a mobile phone) so I put about £10 in it 
> every few months.  :D
>
> The G1 is easily the best phone I've ever had and I wouldn't part with it.
But how much did you pay for the G1 can I ask?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-06 Thread LeeGroups


Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:59:43 Colin Murphy wrote:
>   
>> On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:00:41 Ronnie Tucker wrote:
>> 
>>> What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8)
>>>   
>
> Where did you go to get the unlock code?  It cost me £20 to get mine unlocked 
> in the mobile phone booth in the High Street.
>
>   
>> Hmm, I wonder.  3 seem to do a 'Sim Zero' sim only one month contract for,
>> err, £0.00 / pm.  If I can buy the £5 internet bolt on then I should be
>> able to get my 1Gb for just £5/pm.  Beats T-Mobile's 1Gb for £20.00.
>> 
>
> My assumption was correct, I am now a proud 'Sim Zero' user paying just £5 
> for 
> the 1Gb internet usage.  I don't get any call time, nor do I get any texts - 
> another bolt on is available to add texts, but not voice.
>
> I can always upgrade my package to "Sim 10" to get 100 minutes call time.
>
>   
>> If I need more than 1Gb, I just buy another bolt-on.
>>
>> 
>
> This was an assumption too far, it looks like only one bolt-on can be applied 
> a month.
But how much did you pay for the G1?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-06 Thread LeeGroups


Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 02 July 2009 21:32:35 Michael G Fletcher wrote:
>   
>> Just ran beebplayer on my HTC-Magic and the live radio worked :-) Yay
>> 
>
> An update arrived and live radio is working for me too now.  I wonder if 
> the 'get_iplayer' scripts can be made to work under Android - that would be 
> the best way to get to the archived stuff.  Does Android support Flash yet?  
> I think the video needs this.  Not too much a problem for me as I'd be quite 
> happy with just the audio.
>
>   
>> hmmm, at the moment I just plug in the USB cable and mount the SD
>> card.  If you want to access the root file system i think you need to
>> root the phone...
>>
>> 
> I am very tempted to take the time to root my G1, maybe even run Debian arm, 
> unless there is a Ubuntu equivalent, he says, desperately trying to claw the 
> thread back on topic.
Root it, it's a piece of cake, if a little scary in places... Let's you 
use newer versions of Android month before they are generally available.
I was running the JF version which include most of the cupcake updates 
back in Feb, with all the multi-touch and auto-rotation stuff all working!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-04 Thread Colin Murphy
On Thursday 02 July 2009 21:32:35 Michael G Fletcher wrote:
>
> Just ran beebplayer on my HTC-Magic and the live radio worked :-) Yay

An update arrived and live radio is working for me too now.  I wonder if 
the 'get_iplayer' scripts can be made to work under Android - that would be 
the best way to get to the archived stuff.  Does Android support Flash yet?  
I think the video needs this.  Not too much a problem for me as I'd be quite 
happy with just the audio.

>
> hmmm, at the moment I just plug in the USB cable and mount the SD
> card.  If you want to access the root file system i think you need to
> root the phone...
>
I am very tempted to take the time to root my G1, maybe even run Debian arm, 
unless there is a Ubuntu equivalent, he says, desperately trying to claw the 
thread back on topic.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-04 Thread Colin Murphy
On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:59:43 Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:00:41 Ronnie Tucker wrote:
> > What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8)

Where did you go to get the unlock code?  It cost me £20 to get mine unlocked 
in the mobile phone booth in the High Street.

>
> Hmm, I wonder.  3 seem to do a 'Sim Zero' sim only one month contract for,
> err, £0.00 / pm.  If I can buy the £5 internet bolt on then I should be
> able to get my 1Gb for just £5/pm.  Beats T-Mobile's 1Gb for £20.00.

My assumption was correct, I am now a proud 'Sim Zero' user paying just £5 for 
the 1Gb internet usage.  I don't get any call time, nor do I get any texts - 
another bolt on is available to add texts, but not voice.

I can always upgrade my package to "Sim 10" to get 100 minutes call time.

>
> If I need more than 1Gb, I just buy another bolt-on.
>

This was an assumption too far, it looks like only one bolt-on can be applied 
a month.





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 02 July 2009 19:33:09 LeeGroups wrote:
>> No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream
>> music, it's brilliant,
>
> For me it's mainly the radio.  Beebplayer looks to be the app for me and my
> want for Live radio, just as soon as they get it working!
>

Just ran beebplayer on my HTC-Magic and the live radio worked :-) Yay

> What are people using to transfer files to/from G1's to desktop machines?  I
> know there is an SSH server running in there, but any news on a login
> password?

hmmm, at the moment I just plug in the USB cable and mount the SD
card.  If you want to access the root file system i think you need to
root the phone...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Murphy
On Thursday 02 July 2009 20:00:41 Ronnie Tucker wrote:
> What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3
> SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll
> work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use
> £5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on.

Hmm, I wonder.  3 seem to do a 'Sim Zero' sim only one month contract for, 
err, £0.00 / pm.  If I can buy the £5 internet bolt on then I should be able 
to get my £1Gb for just £5/pm.  Beats T-Mobile's 1Gb for £20.00.

If I need more than 1Gb, I just buy another bolt-on.

I suspect I'll have to visit a 3 shop tomorrow to get the full lowdown.  I 
doub't it can be this simple.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Ronnie Tucker wrote:
>
>

I have the HTC-Magic (G2) through vodafone, love it :-)

I did a review [1] and short video [2] if you are interested.  As
David mentioned, I think the fair use policy is 500MB, but I could
imagine hitting that on my phone, I'd have to be major downloading!
Cost is £35p/m and includes 600minutes, unlimited txt and "unlimited"
internet.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Ronnie Tucker
LeeGroups wrote:
> Colin Murphy wrote:
>   
>> On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
>>> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
>>> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
>>> 
>>>   
>> Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have 
>> PAC 
>> code in hand and consider myself between contracts.
>>
>> Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim 
>> only) 
>> and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem 
>> the best.
>>
>> I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice 
>> that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb 
>> or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
>> usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.
>>
>> I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and 
>> move 
>> to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
>> bleeding edge for this?
>>
>> Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was 
>> meant to go to Javad directly.
>> 
> Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting 
> to Google 24/7.
> You can't get the tariff  without buying a G1.
> I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much 
> exactly but a lot...
> No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream 
> music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery!
>
> The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I 
> think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the 
> phone.
> I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1.
>
> Lee
>   
What I did with my G1 was to unlock it, with a code (~£8) then stick a 3 
SIM in it. As long as the 3 SIM is activated and using data then it'll 
work dandy. They have a £5/mth bolt-on with unlimited data, you just use 
£5 from your available balance (if over £5) to buy the bolt-on. I hardly 
use mine for calls (ironic for a mobile phone) so I put about £10 in it 
every few months.  :D

The G1 is easily the best phone I've ever had and I wouldn't part with it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread LeeGroups


Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
>   
>> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
>> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
>> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
>> 
>
> Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have 
> PAC 
> code in hand and consider myself between contracts.
>
> Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim only) 
> and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem 
> the best.
>
> I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice 
> that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb 
> or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
> usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.
>
> I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and 
> move 
> to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
> bleeding edge for this?
>
> Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was 
> meant to go to Javad directly.
Yes, the G1 has it's own tariff on T-Mobile, it's due to the G1 chatting 
to Google 24/7.
You can't get the tariff  without buying a G1.
I've had mine six months and used a lot of bandwidth, can't say how much 
exactly but a lot...
No ones, complained to me yet... And I use the Last.FM app to stream 
music, it's brilliant, as long as you've remembered to charge the battery!

The cheapest tariff they do is £25/month, 200 txts/200mins (though I 
think I got a special with 400 txts), and I paid £40 (I think) for the 
phone.
I don't you'll beat it, on sim only deal, and having to pay for the G1.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Colin Murphy
On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:11:13 javadayaz wrote:
> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of
> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.

Orange, who I am with, couldn't offer me anything, which is why I now have PAC 
code in hand and consider myself between contracts.

Is the 3Gb a G1 special contract - I am looking at a T-Mobile solo (sim only) 
and the best I can find is 1Gb.  I must agree with Michael, T-Mobile do seem 
the best.

I suppose what I was really looking for was a mobile phone package for voice 
that I could 'bolt-on' a mobile broadband package to, giving me, maybe, 3Gb 
or 5Gb - just doesn't seem to be an option.  When I mentioned this type of 
usage to the Orange customer services the guy nearly collapsed.

I am looking for this bandwidth because I would like to dump FM radio and move 
to internet radio streaming instead.  Perhaps I'm just too ahead of the 
bleeding edge for this?

Thank you all for not castigating me on my off topic post, which really was 
meant to go to Javad directly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread Michael Douglas
javadayaz wrote:
> Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of 
> data. Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be 
> informed.
> Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.
T-Mobile are good with their plans.

I don't know about the G1 contract, but with my contract (not G1, 
clearly) the fair use is technically 1GB per month, but they don't cap. 
They will start to throttle your speed if you consistently go over this 
limit, but that's all.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread javadayaz
Dont take the Unlimited at face value. The unlimited is 3gb's worth of data.
Although they do say if you go over your limit you will be informed.
Im with Tmobile. I do occassionaly stream audio but not that much.

2009/7/2 Colin Murphy 

> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 15:03:05 javadayaz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As some of you may know i have an android phone G1 phone. I would like to
> > avail the phones unlimited data plan.
>
> Hi Javad,
>I too have a G1, but am currently between phone plans, so I am
> looking for
> guidance.
>
>Might I ask, what network are you with?  How unlimited is 'unlimited
> bandwidth'? Do you stream audio to your phone?
>
>Thanks in advance for any clues.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] G1 phone plans - WAS: Re: Webcam as a security camera

2009-07-02 Thread David Jones
Colin Murphy wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 July 2009 15:03:05 javadayaz wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> As some of you may know i have an android phone G1 phone. I would like to
>> avail the phones unlimited data plan. 
>> 
>
> Hi Javad,
>   I too have a G1, but am currently between phone plans, so I am looking 
> for 
> guidance.
>
>   Might I ask, what network are you with?  How unlimited is 'unlimited 
> bandwidth'? Do you stream audio to your phone?
>
>   Thanks in advance for any clues.
>
>   
Colin

I've just got a HTC Magic (effectively the G2) on vodafone, my contract 
says unlimited, although the fair use policy does say 500Mb of data 
transfer per month.

HTH

Dave

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